Focus Rs no 2376
Discussion
oj121 said:
Would seriously love one of these, along with an escort cosworth. Just wish i wasnt so poor.
Not so expensive now & a lot easier to find a good Focus than a good escort (this is why i bought it over the cossie) get saving 
a video from a local Hsv.org meet
love the v8's http://redirectingat.com/?id=1044X509854&xs=1&...
was a good day out
great cars! and i think so much more honest and credible than the mk2 version.... although i am a little biased as a member of the original small development team on RS with many 000's of happy miles of RS thrashing under my belt:
trip cars catching a little lime light outside Dunton HQ
sunning themselves on the shores of the Adriatic
mountains:
more mountains:
Stelvio:
stuck at the top (pass wasnt fully opened yet, somethings even an RS can't climb ;-):
probably my fav RS pic:
sorry for the thread hijack, but thought you might like to see those pics (never been seen before) and enjoy your car !!!
trip cars catching a little lime light outside Dunton HQ
sunning themselves on the shores of the Adriatic
mountains:
more mountains:
Stelvio:
stuck at the top (pass wasnt fully opened yet, somethings even an RS can't climb ;-):
probably my fav RS pic:
sorry for the thread hijack, but thought you might like to see those pics (never been seen before) and enjoy your car !!!
oj121 said:
Hpw do you find the focci day to day? I have found a few decent examples under the 10k barrier now so its getting more of a real option.
Do you find the car has aged much?
Have done 50k in mine and still love it to bits i have looked at replacing it a few times but cant find anything that comes close especially for the money! It has aged very well i have done a few repairs but nothing unexpected for 80 thou Do you find the car has aged much?
Max_Torque said:
great cars! and i think so much more honest and credible than the mk2 version.... although i am a little biased as a member of the original small development team on RS with many 000's of happy miles of RS thrashing under my belt:
trip cars catching a little lime light outside Dunton HQ
sunning themselves on the shores of the Adriatic
mountains:
more mountains:
Stelvio:
stuck at the top (pass wasnt fully opened yet, somethings even an RS can't climb ;-):
probably my fav RS pic:
sorry for the thread hijack, but thought you might like to see those pics (never been seen before) and enjoy your car !!!
Dont say sorry tell me more! trip cars catching a little lime light outside Dunton HQ
sunning themselves on the shores of the Adriatic
mountains:
more mountains:
Stelvio:
stuck at the top (pass wasnt fully opened yet, somethings even an RS can't climb ;-):
probably my fav RS pic:
sorry for the thread hijack, but thought you might like to see those pics (never been seen before) and enjoy your car !!!
neiljohnson said:
Max_Torque said:
great cars! and i think so much more honest and credible than the mk2 version.... although i am a little biased as a member of the original small development team on RS with many 000's of happy miles of RS thrashing under my belt:
trip cars catching a little lime light outside Dunton HQ
sunning themselves on the shores of the Adriatic
mountains:
more mountains:
Stelvio:
stuck at the top (pass wasnt fully opened yet, somethings even an RS can't climb ;-):
probably my fav RS pic:
sorry for the thread hijack, but thought you might like to see those pics (never been seen before) and enjoy your car !!!
Dont say sorry tell me more! trip cars catching a little lime light outside Dunton HQ
sunning themselves on the shores of the Adriatic
mountains:
more mountains:
Stelvio:
stuck at the top (pass wasnt fully opened yet, somethings even an RS can't climb ;-):
probably my fav RS pic:
sorry for the thread hijack, but thought you might like to see those pics (never been seen before) and enjoy your car !!!
Why have i never seen these white and black RS's before?
Those 3 cars were part of the RS development and prototype fleet. The white oldest Attribute Prototype no 3 (AP03), the black Confirmation Prototype No4 (CP04) and the correct coloured blue phase 1 Pre Production no 6 (1PP06). The AP & CP cars were std 3 door foci, with carbon fibre wing and bumper extensions, which actually made them lighter than the production spec steel arched PP cars.
Originally the project was going to be a faily simple turbo engine & body kit job, but pressure from Ford engineering (the original scope saw virtually the complete job farmed out to Tickford) saw the project take on the full mantle of signoff and quality targets & processes, something that contributed to significant delays, but ultimately a better car for sure.
The AP cars were a hoot to drive, especially in there earliest format which did not include throttle based boost control (you could get wheelspin in 4th in the wet!!) AP3 has a tow bar fitted, to enable it to pull a trailer dyno around Nardo for some high temperature engine calibration validation
The cars spent a month or so doing cold temperature & altitude validation in the italian alps (stelvio, passo gau etc) and although very ocasionally overtaken uphill by the odd motorbike, were completely untouchable downhill, with the mega brakes, serious grip and very chuckable handling!
I stil have the log book for 1PP06, and it shows that i drove it for over 8,000 miles during various validation and engineering activities, and like the rest of it's kind, it was failry unceremoniously crushed at the end of the developement activities............. :-(
Originally the project was going to be a faily simple turbo engine & body kit job, but pressure from Ford engineering (the original scope saw virtually the complete job farmed out to Tickford) saw the project take on the full mantle of signoff and quality targets & processes, something that contributed to significant delays, but ultimately a better car for sure.
The AP cars were a hoot to drive, especially in there earliest format which did not include throttle based boost control (you could get wheelspin in 4th in the wet!!) AP3 has a tow bar fitted, to enable it to pull a trailer dyno around Nardo for some high temperature engine calibration validation
The cars spent a month or so doing cold temperature & altitude validation in the italian alps (stelvio, passo gau etc) and although very ocasionally overtaken uphill by the odd motorbike, were completely untouchable downhill, with the mega brakes, serious grip and very chuckable handling!
I stil have the log book for 1PP06, and it shows that i drove it for over 8,000 miles during various validation and engineering activities, and like the rest of it's kind, it was failry unceremoniously crushed at the end of the developement activities............. :-(
Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 9th July 22:22
Max_Torque said:
Those 3 cars were part of the RS development and prototype fleet. The white oldest Attribute Prototype no 3 (AP03), the black Confirmation Prototype No4 (CP04) and the correct coloured blue phase 1 Pre Production no 6 (1PP06). The AP & CP cars were std 3 door foci, with carbon fibre wing and bumper extensions, which actually made them lighter than the production spec steel arched PP cars.
Originally the project was going to be a faily simple turbo engine & body kit job, but pressure from Ford engineering (the original scope saw virtually the complete job farmed out to Tickford) saw the project take on the full mantle of signoff and quality targets & processes, something that contributed to significant delays, but ultimately a better car for sure.
The AP cars were a hoot to drive, especially in there earliest format which did not include throttle based boost control (you could get wheelspin in 4th in the wet!!) AP3 has a tow bar fitted, to enable it to pull a trailer dyno around Nardo for some high temperature engine calibration validation
The cars spent a month or so doing cold temperature & altitude validation in the italian alps (stelvio, passo gau etc) and although very ocasionally overtaken uphill by the odd motorbike, were completely untouchable downhill, with the mega brakes, serious grip and very chuckable handling!
I stil have the log book for 1PP06, and it shows that i drove it for over 8,000 miles during various validation and engineering activities, and like the rest of it's kind, it was failry unceremoniously crushed at the end of the developement activities............. :-(
Interesting stuff.Originally the project was going to be a faily simple turbo engine & body kit job, but pressure from Ford engineering (the original scope saw virtually the complete job farmed out to Tickford) saw the project take on the full mantle of signoff and quality targets & processes, something that contributed to significant delays, but ultimately a better car for sure.
The AP cars were a hoot to drive, especially in there earliest format which did not include throttle based boost control (you could get wheelspin in 4th in the wet!!) AP3 has a tow bar fitted, to enable it to pull a trailer dyno around Nardo for some high temperature engine calibration validation
The cars spent a month or so doing cold temperature & altitude validation in the italian alps (stelvio, passo gau etc) and although very ocasionally overtaken uphill by the odd motorbike, were completely untouchable downhill, with the mega brakes, serious grip and very chuckable handling!
I stil have the log book for 1PP06, and it shows that i drove it for over 8,000 miles during various validation and engineering activities, and like the rest of it's kind, it was failry unceremoniously crushed at the end of the developement activities............. :-(
Edited by Max_Torque on Friday 9th July 22:22
How do I get into this line of work
Max_Torque said:
Those 3 cars were part of the RS development and prototype fleet. The white oldest Attribute Prototype no 3 (AP03), the black Confirmation Prototype No4 (CP04) and the correct coloured blue phase 1 Pre Production no 6 (1PP06). The AP & CP cars were std 3 door foci, with carbon fibre wing and bumper extensions, which actually made them lighter than the production spec steel arched PP cars.
Originally the project was going to be a faily simple turbo engine & body kit job, but pressure from Ford engineering (the original scope saw virtually the complete job farmed out to Tickford) saw the project take on the full mantle of signoff and quality targets & processes, something that contributed to significant delays, but ultimately a better car for sure.
The AP cars were a hoot to drive, especially in there earliest format which did not include throttle based boost control (you could get wheelspin in 4th in the wet!!) AP3 has a tow bar fitted, to enable it to pull a trailer dyno around Nardo for some high temperature engine calibration validation
The cars spent a month or so doing cold temperature & altitude validation in the italian alps (stelvio, passo gau etc) and although very ocasionally overtaken uphill by the odd motorbike, were completely untouchable downhill, with the mega brakes, serious grip and very chuckable handling!
I stil have the log book for 1PP06, and it shows that i drove it for over 8,000 miles during various validation and engineering activities, and like the rest of it's kind, it was failry unceremoniously crushed at the end of the developement activities............. :-(
Shame they were crushed Originally the project was going to be a faily simple turbo engine & body kit job, but pressure from Ford engineering (the original scope saw virtually the complete job farmed out to Tickford) saw the project take on the full mantle of signoff and quality targets & processes, something that contributed to significant delays, but ultimately a better car for sure.
The AP cars were a hoot to drive, especially in there earliest format which did not include throttle based boost control (you could get wheelspin in 4th in the wet!!) AP3 has a tow bar fitted, to enable it to pull a trailer dyno around Nardo for some high temperature engine calibration validation
The cars spent a month or so doing cold temperature & altitude validation in the italian alps (stelvio, passo gau etc) and although very ocasionally overtaken uphill by the odd motorbike, were completely untouchable downhill, with the mega brakes, serious grip and very chuckable handling!
I stil have the log book for 1PP06, and it shows that i drove it for over 8,000 miles during various validation and engineering activities, and like the rest of it's kind, it was failry unceremoniously crushed at the end of the developement activities............. :-(
Edited by Max_Torque on Friday 9th July 22:22
great to hear about the development of my car thanks did those cars have the Ford motorsport exhaust manifold?? 
neiljohnson said:
did those cars have the Ford motorsport exhaust manifold??
There was never such a thing as the "ford motorsport" exh manifold. all development cars had a tubular fabricated manifold, right up to about 8months from job1. But, a car doing durability mileage accumulation at Lommel had a thermal event (industry speak for catching on fire!!) when the prototype fabricated manifold cracked and set fire to the plastic cam cover on the engine (in fact, the car also had the stainless cam cover heat shield missing which compounded the issue). Unfortunately, as a bit of a knee jerk reaction, the descision was made to swap to a cast log type mainfold. This reduced power and torque by approx 18bhp & 30Nm. Those trip cars all started with the tubular manifold, but were modified to the cast item before the final vailidation trips occured.The production cast manifold certainly slightly blunted the cars performance and turbo spool compared to the original manifold :-(
Max_Torque said:
neiljohnson said:
did those cars have the Ford motorsport exhaust manifold??
There was never such a thing as the "ford motorsport" exh manifold. all development cars had a tubular fabricated manifold, right up to about 8months from job1. But, a car doing durability mileage accumulation at Lommel had a thermal event (industry speak for catching on fire!!) when the prototype fabricated manifold cracked and set fire to the plastic cam cover on the engine (in fact, the car also had the stainless cam cover heat shield missing which compounded the issue). Unfortunately, as a bit of a knee jerk reaction, the descision was made to swap to a cast log type mainfold. This reduced power and torque by approx 18bhp & 30Nm. Those trip cars all started with the tubular manifold, but were modified to the cast item before the final vailidation trips occured.The production cast manifold certainly slightly blunted the cars performance and turbo spool compared to the original manifold :-(
seems like someone made a stamp up for the ones that appeared a while back on german ebay 
Shame they didnt have them from the factory but have got one on mine now
must admit it does throw of some heat even with the ceramic coating on it 
Like the term 'thermal event' though
Max_Torque said:
Now it's possible that those manifolds came from the pair of RS's that ran for a couple of years in the German VLN race series. they were unofficially supported by Ford germany, so it's possible they ranoff a series of "motorsport" manifolds for those cars???
That may explain it there was quite a few that appeared on there & i must admit having seen them they do look very well made Do you still work at Ford??
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