LOMAX 223 - slow max the right kinda trike
Discussion
Greg_D said:
Just one question, if this is your daily transport, how do you cope with the lack of weather protection?
Get wet 
In all seriousness- I'm at uni for circa 40 weeks of the year so no need for a "proper car" to use as a daily. I'm only back for 3 weeks at Easter, 2 weeks at Christmas and summer so the financial viability of having a proper car is out the window (or not as in the case of the Lomax, I don't have any) especially as when I'm at home I can walk to work. It's really only a toy, even though it's my only car/trike/three wheeler/thingumabob.
Videos Uploaded!
Citroen special meet (pics above)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ll_MWYmdF68
Driving the Cat and Fiddle road from macclesfield to buxton A537
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjLhHvaCcO0
Citroen special meet (pics above)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ll_MWYmdF68
Driving the Cat and Fiddle road from macclesfield to buxton A537
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjLhHvaCcO0
Steffan said:
Nice to see a well presented and very driveable car.
The Lomax really did set a trend in Kit Cars when there was a real interest in this kind of cheap different individual motoring. The ones I have driven have really been fun cars and quite capable cruisers.
Your is indeed a well sorted example. Excellent effort.
Enjoy the car you will remember it forever.
I wish I still had either my BSA Scout or my Morgan JAP three wheeler or come to that my original Lotus Super Seven with the Ford Twin Cam engine..
All gone all now literally non existent and I miss every one.
Oh well, I will just have to build another three wheeler this winter.
Hi Steffan,The Lomax really did set a trend in Kit Cars when there was a real interest in this kind of cheap different individual motoring. The ones I have driven have really been fun cars and quite capable cruisers.
Your is indeed a well sorted example. Excellent effort.
Enjoy the car you will remember it forever.
I wish I still had either my BSA Scout or my Morgan JAP three wheeler or come to that my original Lotus Super Seven with the Ford Twin Cam engine..
All gone all now literally non existent and I miss every one.
Oh well, I will just have to build another three wheeler this winter.
Yes, the type of fun kit car isnt made anymore! it seems to me that kit cars are all about raw speed and handling. I have only ever seen 2 or 3 jester kit cars (probably one of the last "fun kits"), although i really do quite like the Sammio range.
Fortunately Phil Gregory of Pembleton is still producing a few kits a year for those wanting to build a "fun" three wheeler where performance isnt the only thing (unlike nearly all bike based cars). Although finding a 2cv is getting hard nowadays, most build with a BMW or a Guzzi block.
There are a few things i would like to do to the lomax given time and funds. A nice new interior and dash and some 9.0:1 high compression barrels and cylinders would be nice. Next summer i plan to get some 100% uprated springs and new shocks as it gets a little impolite around corners when you're going for it and it feels very leany! Other than that, its pretty much perfect!
What are you planning to build?
Jamirecluse said:
Nice, OP.
Does it feel like double speed with no upper body and so low to the ground?
Those roads look great fun in a car like that.
It does feel faster, but i think it also feels quicker because there is no screen/roof/sides. This is the general consensus i get when speaking to owners who do have these on thier Lomii.Does it feel like double speed with no upper body and so low to the ground?
Those roads look great fun in a car like that.
I Had a sit in a JZR a little while ago, and with those you really do sit on the floor of the car and they are low, i imagine they feel even faster (and they have nearly double power too!) I also tried a LWB pembleton and they feel a little lower too.
Thanks
Slomax
Edited by slomax on Friday 14th October 11:03
r1ch said:
Very cool mate, i love stuff like this. Great piccies too. Never seen one of those before! How do people react to it, do you get many comments ?
hello 
Thanks!
Yeah, everyone stops and stares, waves, flashes or beeps. It's amazing how much attention you get in it! Especially as its so loud when you give it some revvs!
Many people say oh, its like a Robin Reliant in reverse, which really hacks me off as they think its just as unstable and stupid!
Some people ask if it is a morgan, others are just really interested! It is nice to see so many people asking about it.
Heres that vid of it accelerating to give you that engine note!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_i0ZbLRFms
Niall
poo at Paul's said:
Loving this!
Takes me back to being 17 and my mate having a 2cv! Wellying it about the place, used to love how he had to change up to 2nd before crossing the centre white line, when pulling out of a junction!!
Haha, thanks, yeah. First gear is really short! If you get the revvs right and the road is wet you can get wheelspin going into second too, which is funny!Takes me back to being 17 and my mate having a 2cv! Wellying it about the place, used to love how he had to change up to 2nd before crossing the centre white line, when pulling out of a junction!!
Jamirecluse said:
I want a Lomax after watching the video.
yeah, thats the reaction i get from everyone once they have been out in it too!! they are A LOT of fun! hello,
A new Morgan dealer popped up near to where i live about 6 weeks ago. Last week they got the new 3 wheeler in and i went over in the Lomax to have a look at it.
As you say it is a lot bigger than my Lomax. I have seen many originals and thought the new one was just a re-creation from the old one... Far from it. The track on my Lomax is circa 4 ft, the new Morgan must be nearly 5ft 6".
The one they have in is a 2 litre S&S V-twin producing 130bhp. The stroke doesn't look that big so the bore must be huge, the cylinder heads are very very big. Aparently it can do 0-60 in about 4 seconds and it can deffinately do 120mph, but they don't want to try it's TOP speed.
Unfortunately the one they had was not registered yet, so we weren't allowed to have a go in it, however the dealer did let us sit in in and he fired it up and revved it a bit too. Because the compression is so much, the starter motor sounds lazy at first, but it soon fires into a very deep rumble and when revved is VERY loud and does actually sound like an aero engine.
The engine is linked to a short shift mazda MX5 gearbox and is shaft drive to the back where there is a final drive and then a belt to the rear wheel and a big fat tire. The shift feels incredibly short, can't be much more than 2 or 3 inches.
As far as the interior goes, VERY nice indeed. There isn't quite as much room as the Lomax, but i can fit in relatively well. The standard steering wheel is a bit ugly for the price but it is detatchable for getting in and out. General build quality is good too and they really are very well put together.
Apparently they have already had over 800 orders and they reckon they can build about 10 a week so there is already a nigh on 2 year waiting list.
The dealer said he is going to get it registered in January and we have been invited back for a test drive.
Slomax
A new Morgan dealer popped up near to where i live about 6 weeks ago. Last week they got the new 3 wheeler in and i went over in the Lomax to have a look at it.
As you say it is a lot bigger than my Lomax. I have seen many originals and thought the new one was just a re-creation from the old one... Far from it. The track on my Lomax is circa 4 ft, the new Morgan must be nearly 5ft 6".
The one they have in is a 2 litre S&S V-twin producing 130bhp. The stroke doesn't look that big so the bore must be huge, the cylinder heads are very very big. Aparently it can do 0-60 in about 4 seconds and it can deffinately do 120mph, but they don't want to try it's TOP speed.
Unfortunately the one they had was not registered yet, so we weren't allowed to have a go in it, however the dealer did let us sit in in and he fired it up and revved it a bit too. Because the compression is so much, the starter motor sounds lazy at first, but it soon fires into a very deep rumble and when revved is VERY loud and does actually sound like an aero engine.
The engine is linked to a short shift mazda MX5 gearbox and is shaft drive to the back where there is a final drive and then a belt to the rear wheel and a big fat tire. The shift feels incredibly short, can't be much more than 2 or 3 inches.
As far as the interior goes, VERY nice indeed. There isn't quite as much room as the Lomax, but i can fit in relatively well. The standard steering wheel is a bit ugly for the price but it is detatchable for getting in and out. General build quality is good too and they really are very well put together.
Apparently they have already had over 800 orders and they reckon they can build about 10 a week so there is already a nigh on 2 year waiting list.
The dealer said he is going to get it registered in January and we have been invited back for a test drive.
Slomax
Thanks!
I have a matching sheepskin deerhunter hat. It's amazing how warm they are, and being leather it is wind proof and water proof too. In warm weather I tend not to wear a hat.
Eye protection is a must though. You simply cannot see without it. I have several pairs of sun glasses, safety specs and cycling glasses with interchangeable lenses in for all weathers and lights.
If I'm going on the motorway or a long way or it's drizzling then I have an open face helmet and some classic goggles usually mated with a fleecy buff pulled over my face.
You get the ocasional stone flick up and if it hits you at any sort of speed can hurt a lot. I have known some people say they have drawn blood from a cut lip. Kamakazi bees also really hurt. Fine drizzle really stings at anything over 30mph, it is very surprising.
I have a matching sheepskin deerhunter hat. It's amazing how warm they are, and being leather it is wind proof and water proof too. In warm weather I tend not to wear a hat.
Eye protection is a must though. You simply cannot see without it. I have several pairs of sun glasses, safety specs and cycling glasses with interchangeable lenses in for all weathers and lights.
If I'm going on the motorway or a long way or it's drizzling then I have an open face helmet and some classic goggles usually mated with a fleecy buff pulled over my face.
You get the ocasional stone flick up and if it hits you at any sort of speed can hurt a lot. I have known some people say they have drawn blood from a cut lip. Kamakazi bees also really hurt. Fine drizzle really stings at anything over 30mph, it is very surprising.
slomax said:
hello,
A new Morgan dealer popped up near to where i live about 6 weeks ago. Last week they got the new 3 wheeler in and i went over in the Lomax to have a look at it.
Shortly after pic was taken the entire dealership (subaru, high end sports cars (f40's, SLS's, GT's etc), and morgan) went into administration. I never got to go back for a test drive. A new Morgan dealer popped up near to where i live about 6 weeks ago. Last week they got the new 3 wheeler in and i went over in the Lomax to have a look at it.
My brother lent me is Go-Pro over Easter, so i fitted it to the Lomax and went for a drive around some twisties.
Here are the results!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sh7OpNw1iak&fea...
Steffan said:
And a good time was had by all judging from the video results. An excellent presentation of the degree of essential involvement in the road conditions, traffic movements, road surfaces etc, that driving a Three wheeler presents. Well done indeed most informative and please keep this up!
Thanks Steffan! it was a smashing day for a drive, it got a little colder as i ventured a bit further out with a foot of snow in the fields in some places. YouTube have but some weird anti-shake filter on my vid so it's constantly warping, horrible. just in the process of removing it so it doesn't look like its on acid.
Thanks for the kind words!
Not at the minute. Its running pretty much perfectly, just needs some new tyres up front. Might re-do the dash this summer in wine/maroon colour.
Long term (3-5 years) i hope to get a Grinnall scorpion if finances allow. I think my dad is hankering after a three wheeler now so i could always sell him the Lomax, but i think he is really after a Guzzi JZR or Triking.
Long term (3-5 years) i hope to get a Grinnall scorpion if finances allow. I think my dad is hankering after a three wheeler now so i could always sell him the Lomax, but i think he is really after a Guzzi JZR or Triking.
Steffan said:
The Motor Guzzi type of twin cylinder front mounted drive unit does make an excellent car. But I have to say slomax, your excellent Lomax acquits itself very well in the video and seems a well balance well finished car to me. All credit too you.
I thought about going up to something like the BMW R80 or Guzzi, but its a lot of work and to be honest, with the chassis and suspension design, i don't think it would be worth the effort. Sure, it'd pick up speed better and be a better cruiser, but around the corners and under braking it would be largely the same. The guy i bought the Lomax off back in 2009 also had a Blackjack Avion and he always said that this drove better. He couldn't work out why because the engine, gearbox and carb were identical and yet this one just ran a lot sweeter. Other than fitting a new breather/oil filler/valve, changing the rocker covers, adjusting the floats and fitting new jets and retuning the carb i haven't done anything mechanical on it (apart from the usual upkeep), so i must just be lucky 
Quhet said:
I love these! In the Isle of Man a couple of years ago we came across a meet for these at the bungalow on Snaefel, don't think I saw anyone under about 65 there!
I'm one of the younger ones in the Club, although not the youngest. But yes, you're right, the average age is probably around 60
UPDATES!
instalment one:
in 2013 I finished my degree and during my degree show was invited down to Princess yachts in Plymouth for an interview. I got the job and moved down here in July 2013. We do pretty cool luxury motor yachts from 40ft to 40m. Check out the website if your interested - www.princessyachts.com
I left the poor old girl in Cheshire in the care of my father, who probably only took her out about half a dozen times in 18 months. I kept putting off bringing the LOMAX down for a few reasons, but mostly because I didn't fancy 6hours on the motorway.
Fast forward to Easter 2015 and I embarked on a plan to bring the LOMAX down. We did it over 4 days avoiding as much motorway as I could. From Cheshire I went across to Shrewsbury where the other halfs parents live, then down through Wales to Abergavenny, across Bristol and down to Taunton, then down to Plymouth.
Here she is on one of the coastal roads:
instalment one:
in 2013 I finished my degree and during my degree show was invited down to Princess yachts in Plymouth for an interview. I got the job and moved down here in July 2013. We do pretty cool luxury motor yachts from 40ft to 40m. Check out the website if your interested - www.princessyachts.com
I left the poor old girl in Cheshire in the care of my father, who probably only took her out about half a dozen times in 18 months. I kept putting off bringing the LOMAX down for a few reasons, but mostly because I didn't fancy 6hours on the motorway.
Fast forward to Easter 2015 and I embarked on a plan to bring the LOMAX down. We did it over 4 days avoiding as much motorway as I could. From Cheshire I went across to Shrewsbury where the other halfs parents live, then down through Wales to Abergavenny, across Bristol and down to Taunton, then down to Plymouth.
Here she is on one of the coastal roads:
Instalment two:
So now the LOMAX was down in Plymouth I used it for a few weeks whilst I made a list longer than my arm of 'things to do'.
Heres a gratuitous pic from the coast!
First thing was wiring and dash switches....
Before:
After:
Its worth noting at this point that I added no wiring, only changed the lights, switches and connections. I managed to strip all this from the loom! Shocking the amount of excess/useless wires!
Next up was the dash/Speedo back light. This was given as an advisory at the last mot. The original builder had bought a European Speedo and sprayed the whole lot black internally. Then swapped out the glass for UK spec. I stripped out the Speedo and replaced the useless bulb with a bank of LEDs across the bottom....
Then I met up with a fellow PHer. Along came a spider!
So now the LOMAX was down in Plymouth I used it for a few weeks whilst I made a list longer than my arm of 'things to do'.
Heres a gratuitous pic from the coast!
First thing was wiring and dash switches....
Before:
After:
Its worth noting at this point that I added no wiring, only changed the lights, switches and connections. I managed to strip all this from the loom! Shocking the amount of excess/useless wires!
Next up was the dash/Speedo back light. This was given as an advisory at the last mot. The original builder had bought a European Speedo and sprayed the whole lot black internally. Then swapped out the glass for UK spec. I stripped out the Speedo and replaced the useless bulb with a bank of LEDs across the bottom....
Then I met up with a fellow PHer. Along came a spider!
Its running both rear springs. One would sit seriously tail down, although there are a few with this set up, I believe most owners convert to both.
Also have the LOMAX optional front ARB end plates. Don't know what the ARB is actually off though. I have heard people using Morris marina, visa and all sorts.
I think the doors add a bit more class than the boggo ones... also the rimbellishers and chrome details add a bit more bling.
There aren't many black ones around either 😊
Also have the LOMAX optional front ARB end plates. Don't know what the ARB is actually off though. I have heard people using Morris marina, visa and all sorts.
I think the doors add a bit more class than the boggo ones... also the rimbellishers and chrome details add a bit more bling.
There aren't many black ones around either 😊
Ive only ever seen one of these! They are fugly as.
There was also a LOMAX super vee. As far as I know there was only one of these made as well and no-one knows its whereabouts now. This was a totally different beast and had a v twin that was the end of an American v8 with 6cylinders lopped off. Very odd....
There was also a LOMAX super vee. As far as I know there was only one of these made as well and no-one knows its whereabouts now. This was a totally different beast and had a v twin that was the end of an American v8 with 6cylinders lopped off. Very odd....
There are loads of dodgy kits floating around on the market. You'll be glad to know that mine is properly registered too. With the all important Lomax Tricycle on the V5. Not Citroen special, which some have. Some registration documents are so vague out means the presents can be much more creative about what they actually do, and none of the police/dvla would even know what's what!
Having a proper v5 makes it much easier to mot and sell though (if I ever want to)
Having a proper v5 makes it much easier to mot and sell though (if I ever want to)
One of the best things I like about cars like this is you can never get lost. It doesn't matter where you go or how you get there. The journey is the event. In modern cars you go places. You have a destination or route in mind, pre-planned. I went out today not knowing where I was going, if I saw a lane I fancied taking, I took it.
I happen to come upon a national trust gorge today. Lovely.
I happen to come upon a national trust gorge today. Lovely.
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