Noble M12 heavily modified

Noble M12 heavily modified

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chuntington101

5,733 posts

237 months

Tuesday 30th April 2013
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Cracking graph there andy! Are you still capping the torque to save the box? Looks like there is still room for a little more boost up top if you wanted to hold that torque curve a little longer. That's assuming the engine can take a little more. smile

Dose that mean you are the most powerful Noble in the uk?

andygtt

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8,345 posts

265 months

Tuesday 30th April 2013
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chuntington101 said:
Cracking graph there andy! Are you still capping the torque to save the box? Looks like there is still room for a little more boost up top if you wanted to hold that torque curve a little longer. That's assuming the engine can take a little more. smile

Dose that mean you are the most powerful Noble in the uk?
must admit im pretty pleased with it... usable power over a wide rev range smile

yes power and torque is still capped, i ran 1.6 bar previously at 7500rpm, the extra power has been found with new piston design... the ecu has also changed but that wont add power just much better control and safety/logging.

this chart shows the old engine running full boost vs the new engine... done on a different dyno but surprisingly similar low down curvs which suggest the dynos read similar.


PhillipM

6,524 posts

190 months

Tuesday 30th April 2013
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Can't believe I missed this thread, just had a quick skim through, superb work *wanders off back to early pages*

EJH

934 posts

210 months

Wednesday 1st May 2013
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PhillipM said:
Can't believe I missed this thread, just had a quick skim through, superb work *wanders off back to early pages*
+1. That was a fun few minutes and this is now bookmarked!

This is why I love PH!

andygtt

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8,345 posts

265 months

Wednesday 1st May 2013
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got a coat of lacquer on the clip last night... needs flatting and a couple more coats but looks miles better already and less like its wrapped tongue out




BananaBok

116 posts

148 months

Wednesday 1st May 2013
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You've done amazingly well considering you've been essentially learning on the job, you obviously have a massive amount of natural talent for this, look forward to seeing it completed.

I wish I had even a modicum of your ability and patience, I consider rotating wheels as a major feat of engineering.

Greg_D

6,542 posts

247 months

Wednesday 1st May 2013
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I'll bet that 'wrapping' comment was like a dagger to the heart, wasn't it andy!!!

Just out of interest, are the quarter panels going to get any sort of carbon treatment or are you going to leave them as is by way of a juxtaposition?

andygtt

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8,345 posts

265 months

Wednesday 1st May 2013
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Greg_D said:
I'll bet that 'wrapping' comment was like a dagger to the heart, wasn't it andy!!!

Just out of interest, are the quarter panels going to get any sort of carbon treatment or are you going to leave them as is by way of a juxtaposition?
must say i've never seen wrap that looked like real carbon so was a little confused lol... to be fair the pics were not that great as it was a raw unlacquered panel and many dont appreciate that real carbon isnt glossy as it starts as a matt cloth and is usually gel coated or lacquered to give the finish people know and love.

I might make a carbon tub which inlcudes the side quarter panels... this is the only panel I have not made moulds of yet and made in carbon.... It will be a huge amount of work even by my standards so it will depend if i need the extra weight saving to meet my 1000kgs weight goal smile


Greg_D

6,542 posts

247 months

Wednesday 1st May 2013
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andygtt said:
Greg_D said:
I'll bet that 'wrapping' comment was like a dagger to the heart, wasn't it andy!!!

Just out of interest, are the quarter panels going to get any sort of carbon treatment or are you going to leave them as is by way of a juxtaposition?
must say i've never seen wrap that looked like real carbon so was a little confused lol... to be fair the pics were not that great as it was a raw unlacquered panel and many dont appreciate that real carbon isnt glossy as it starts as a matt cloth and is usually gel coated or lacquered to give the finish people know and love.

I might make a carbon tub which inlcudes the side quarter panels... this is the only panel I have not made moulds of yet and made in carbon.... It will be a huge amount of work even by my standards so it will depend if i need the extra weight saving to meet my 1000kgs weight goal smile
you could just wrap them wink

Ferg

15,242 posts

258 months

Wednesday 1st May 2013
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It'll look excellent when it's all sprayed blue again.

rohrl

8,744 posts

146 months

Wednesday 1st May 2013
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I'm no carbon fibre expert but that looks very smart with the weave meeting down the centreline. As I understand it CF degrades in sunlight so does the lacquer you're using block UV and will you be painting it or leaving it lacquered? It would be a bit of a shame to paint it straight away IMO.

MagicalTrevor

6,476 posts

230 months

Wednesday 1st May 2013
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Ferg said:
It'll look excellent when it's all sprayed blue again.
I think I know what you mean. As much as I'm very, very impressed with the workmanship, full CF isn't to my tastes. However it would look awesome if you can get the paint thin enough so you can see the weave underneath the paint, just like the F40!

Of course, it would still look amazing in lacquered CF!

CraigZR

171 posts

156 months

Thursday 2nd May 2013
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Im not a fan of the way the car looks with the bare carbon. But the fact that your doing this yourself and its self taight is really impressive.
Is there a thread on the GTT? It sounds interesting

joe_90

4,206 posts

232 months

Thursday 2nd May 2013
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Do you have any more photos of the front clam, and how did you get the perfect V+line down the middle?

ezakimak

1,871 posts

237 months

Thursday 2nd May 2013
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CraigZR said:
Is there a thread on the GTT? It sounds interesting
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&t=317703&r=12472613&hm=16322&mid=16322#12472613



FWDRacer

3,564 posts

225 months

Thursday 2nd May 2013
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Sorry naysayers, but having put my hard work into the Carbon, I'd be inclined to show it off tongue out

If a full Carbon tub isn't required to meet your weight target, paint the W-anky blue bit in Hi gloss black as a match to the finished Hi-gloss carbon...

Then it'll look 'Proper' stealth bomber.

Ferg

15,242 posts

258 months

Thursday 2nd May 2013
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hehe

andygtt

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8,345 posts

265 months

Thursday 2nd May 2013
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FWDRacer said:
Sorry naysayers, but having put my hard work into the Carbon, I'd be inclined to show it off tongue out

If a full Carbon tub isn't required to meet your weight target, paint the W-anky blue bit in Hi gloss black as a match to the finished Hi-gloss carbon...

Then it'll look 'Proper' stealth bomber.
I kinda have the same opinion, I've seen carbon supercars and thought 'nah preffer it painted'... but having worked so hard to get the weave good enough to just lacquer I feel it looks cool in raw carbon.... plus there isnt and is unlikelly to be another lacquered carbon Noble M12 so it makes it unique.

Incidentally the weave isnt perfect everywere, there is a few flaws so there is room for improvement... but i'm a fussy bugger and its still good enough for me.

I had thought about painting the tub black... however a large number of people have said it looks good as is, so I think I will paint the white parts a colour and leave rest lacquered carbon for the summer smile

Ferg

15,242 posts

258 months

Thursday 2nd May 2013
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I think it looks absolutely fantastic Andy..leave it lacquered. I'll try not to do any more stupid jokes. smile

CobraChris

339 posts

140 months

Sunday 5th May 2013
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Hi Andy.

Saw your Noble in the flesh at Stoneleigh today.

Great job!