Noble M12 heavily modified
Discussion
Cracking graph there andy! Are you still capping the torque to save the box? Looks like there is still room for a little more boost up top if you wanted to hold that torque curve a little longer. That's assuming the engine can take a little more.
Dose that mean you are the most powerful Noble in the uk?
Dose that mean you are the most powerful Noble in the uk?
chuntington101 said:
Cracking graph there andy! Are you still capping the torque to save the box? Looks like there is still room for a little more boost up top if you wanted to hold that torque curve a little longer. That's assuming the engine can take a little more.
Dose that mean you are the most powerful Noble in the uk?
must admit im pretty pleased with it... usable power over a wide rev range Dose that mean you are the most powerful Noble in the uk?
yes power and torque is still capped, i ran 1.6 bar previously at 7500rpm, the extra power has been found with new piston design... the ecu has also changed but that wont add power just much better control and safety/logging.
this chart shows the old engine running full boost vs the new engine... done on a different dyno but surprisingly similar low down curvs which suggest the dynos read similar.
You've done amazingly well considering you've been essentially learning on the job, you obviously have a massive amount of natural talent for this, look forward to seeing it completed.
I wish I had even a modicum of your ability and patience, I consider rotating wheels as a major feat of engineering.
I wish I had even a modicum of your ability and patience, I consider rotating wheels as a major feat of engineering.
Greg_D said:
I'll bet that 'wrapping' comment was like a dagger to the heart, wasn't it andy!!!
Just out of interest, are the quarter panels going to get any sort of carbon treatment or are you going to leave them as is by way of a juxtaposition?
must say i've never seen wrap that looked like real carbon so was a little confused lol... to be fair the pics were not that great as it was a raw unlacquered panel and many dont appreciate that real carbon isnt glossy as it starts as a matt cloth and is usually gel coated or lacquered to give the finish people know and love.Just out of interest, are the quarter panels going to get any sort of carbon treatment or are you going to leave them as is by way of a juxtaposition?
I might make a carbon tub which inlcudes the side quarter panels... this is the only panel I have not made moulds of yet and made in carbon.... It will be a huge amount of work even by my standards so it will depend if i need the extra weight saving to meet my 1000kgs weight goal
andygtt said:
Greg_D said:
I'll bet that 'wrapping' comment was like a dagger to the heart, wasn't it andy!!!
Just out of interest, are the quarter panels going to get any sort of carbon treatment or are you going to leave them as is by way of a juxtaposition?
must say i've never seen wrap that looked like real carbon so was a little confused lol... to be fair the pics were not that great as it was a raw unlacquered panel and many dont appreciate that real carbon isnt glossy as it starts as a matt cloth and is usually gel coated or lacquered to give the finish people know and love.Just out of interest, are the quarter panels going to get any sort of carbon treatment or are you going to leave them as is by way of a juxtaposition?
I might make a carbon tub which inlcudes the side quarter panels... this is the only panel I have not made moulds of yet and made in carbon.... It will be a huge amount of work even by my standards so it will depend if i need the extra weight saving to meet my 1000kgs weight goal
I'm no carbon fibre expert but that looks very smart with the weave meeting down the centreline. As I understand it CF degrades in sunlight so does the lacquer you're using block UV and will you be painting it or leaving it lacquered? It would be a bit of a shame to paint it straight away IMO.
Ferg said:
It'll look excellent when it's all sprayed blue again.
I think I know what you mean. As much as I'm very, very impressed with the workmanship, full CF isn't to my tastes. However it would look awesome if you can get the paint thin enough so you can see the weave underneath the paint, just like the F40!Of course, it would still look amazing in lacquered CF!
Sorry naysayers, but having put my hard work into the Carbon, I'd be inclined to show it off
If a full Carbon tub isn't required to meet your weight target, paint the W-anky blue bit in Hi gloss black as a match to the finished Hi-gloss carbon...
Then it'll look 'Proper' stealth bomber.
If a full Carbon tub isn't required to meet your weight target, paint the W-anky blue bit in Hi gloss black as a match to the finished Hi-gloss carbon...
Then it'll look 'Proper' stealth bomber.
FWDRacer said:
Sorry naysayers, but having put my hard work into the Carbon, I'd be inclined to show it off
If a full Carbon tub isn't required to meet your weight target, paint the W-anky blue bit in Hi gloss black as a match to the finished Hi-gloss carbon...
Then it'll look 'Proper' stealth bomber.
I kinda have the same opinion, I've seen carbon supercars and thought 'nah preffer it painted'... but having worked so hard to get the weave good enough to just lacquer I feel it looks cool in raw carbon.... plus there isnt and is unlikelly to be another lacquered carbon Noble M12 so it makes it unique.If a full Carbon tub isn't required to meet your weight target, paint the W-anky blue bit in Hi gloss black as a match to the finished Hi-gloss carbon...
Then it'll look 'Proper' stealth bomber.
Incidentally the weave isnt perfect everywere, there is a few flaws so there is room for improvement... but i'm a fussy bugger and its still good enough for me.
I had thought about painting the tub black... however a large number of people have said it looks good as is, so I think I will paint the white parts a colour and leave rest lacquered carbon for the summer
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