Noble M12 heavily modified
Discussion
stevieturbo said:
Was great to have a chat with you Andy, car is looking fantastic ! That carbon stuff is strong.
Enjoyed our chat, great to meet you in person after spending so many years asking your advice 
Who knows maybe we will eventually meet again at TOTB if i ever get my arse into gear lol
Just read this from start to finish and you sir are certifiably insane, absolutely bloody bonkers.
Best read on PH.
Lovely car and thanks for taking the time to post your story along the way. I hope to see it in the flesh one day.
Off now to find your crazy v8 Capri build. Although I think I started reading it before when you were looking into converting an American manual box to work using solenoids with max_torque.
Best read on PH.
Lovely car and thanks for taking the time to post your story along the way. I hope to see it in the flesh one day.
Off now to find your crazy v8 Capri build. Although I think I started reading it before when you were looking into converting an American manual box to work using solenoids with max_torque.
Makes my efforts look pretty lame :-)
With regard to the front clip, what materials did you use? I'm planning making one for my Elan and was thinking of two layers of carbon, layer of 2mm soric then one layer of carbon and one of aramid.
With regard to the front clip, what materials did you use? I'm planning making one for my Elan and was thinking of two layers of carbon, layer of 2mm soric then one layer of carbon and one of aramid.
Edited by stevebroad on Saturday 21st January 16:54
Makes my efforts look pretty lame :-)
With regard to the front clip, what materials did you use? I'm planning making one for my Elan and was thinking of two layers of carbon, layer of 2mm soric then one layer of carbon and one of aramid.
With regard to the front clip, what materials did you use? I'm planning making one for my Elan and was thinking of two layers of carbon, layer of 2mm soric then one layer of carbon and one of aramid.
Edited by stevebroad on Sunday 22 January 19:47
stevebroad said:
Makes my efforts look pretty lame :-)
With regard to the front clip, what materials did you use? I'm planning making one for my Elan and was thinking of two layers of carbon, layer of 2mm soric then one layer of carbon and one of aramid.
Your layup is pretty similar to what I did for my front clam, I used 3mm soric as I felt that gave a better cushion to prevent stone chips and only used kevlar in the wheel arches. you can beef up areas of structural importance such as bolt locations, returns etc and not use sonic in that location as the shape gives the rigidity. With regard to the front clip, what materials did you use? I'm planning making one for my Elan and was thinking of two layers of carbon, layer of 2mm soric then one layer of carbon and one of aramid.
Edited by stevebroad on Sunday 22 January 19:47
andygtt said:
Your layup is pretty similar to what I did for my front clam, I used 3mm soric as I felt that gave a better cushion to prevent stone chips and only used kevlar in the wheel arches. you can beef up areas of structural importance such as bolt locations, returns etc and not use sonic in that location as the shape gives the rigidity.
Cheers for that. Did you use aramid as a crack resisting layer, in areas such as arches and splitters? So, use soric in the large flat areas such as the bonnet area but not in curved areas such as wings and arches?
I used only carbon, soric (the foam core) and kevlar/carbon.
Soric was mostly used everywhere and importantly above the wheels as this avoids any star crazing from stones, its tight curves and complex strength areas that i used pure carbon and omitted the soric.
kevlar/ carbon weave was used in areas above the wheels to stop stones going through.
It really does depend on what you are after... I wanted the panels lighter but also stronger than original, I could have reduced another 1kgs or so if i had used 2mm soric and lighter carbon layers.... A good example are my doors, I wanted these very stiff with some side impact protection (unlike stock which is just GF) so I beefed up the carbon both sides of the soric and had some heavy layers of Kevlar. They ended up only 3kgs lighter than stock but are proper brick outhouses in comparison.
As I say for a very light Clam, your original suggested layup is actually pretty spot on IMO.... if you were local you would be more than welcome to come and see the panels on the car and discuss it
Soric was mostly used everywhere and importantly above the wheels as this avoids any star crazing from stones, its tight curves and complex strength areas that i used pure carbon and omitted the soric.
kevlar/ carbon weave was used in areas above the wheels to stop stones going through.
It really does depend on what you are after... I wanted the panels lighter but also stronger than original, I could have reduced another 1kgs or so if i had used 2mm soric and lighter carbon layers.... A good example are my doors, I wanted these very stiff with some side impact protection (unlike stock which is just GF) so I beefed up the carbon both sides of the soric and had some heavy layers of Kevlar. They ended up only 3kgs lighter than stock but are proper brick outhouses in comparison.
As I say for a very light Clam, your original suggested layup is actually pretty spot on IMO.... if you were local you would be more than welcome to come and see the panels on the car and discuss it
andygtt said:
I used only carbon, soric (the foam core) and kevlar/carbon.
Soric was mostly used everywhere and importantly above the wheels as this avoids any star crazing from stones, its tight curves and complex strength areas that i used pure carbon and omitted the soric.
kevlar/ carbon weave was used in areas above the wheels to stop stones going through.
It really does depend on what you are after... I wanted the panels lighter but also stronger than original, I could have reduced another 1kgs or so if i had used 2mm soric and lighter carbon layers.... A good example are my doors, I wanted these very stiff with some side impact protection (unlike stock which is just GF) so I beefed up the carbon both sides of the soric and had some heavy layers of Kevlar. They ended up only 3kgs lighter than stock but are proper brick outhouses in comparison.
As I say for a very light Clam, your original suggested layup is actually pretty spot on IMO.... if you were local you would be more than welcome to come and see the panels on the car and discuss it
Thanks for the info, Andy. As most of my racing will be on the 1/4 mile, no amount of carbon/aramid will stay together in a 150mph crash :-( So I am looking for as light and stiff as possible, which I think my spec will achieve (may even be ablt to get away with 3 layers of carbon :-) )Soric was mostly used everywhere and importantly above the wheels as this avoids any star crazing from stones, its tight curves and complex strength areas that i used pure carbon and omitted the soric.
kevlar/ carbon weave was used in areas above the wheels to stop stones going through.
It really does depend on what you are after... I wanted the panels lighter but also stronger than original, I could have reduced another 1kgs or so if i had used 2mm soric and lighter carbon layers.... A good example are my doors, I wanted these very stiff with some side impact protection (unlike stock which is just GF) so I beefed up the carbon both sides of the soric and had some heavy layers of Kevlar. They ended up only 3kgs lighter than stock but are proper brick outhouses in comparison.
As I say for a very light Clam, your original suggested layup is actually pretty spot on IMO.... if you were local you would be more than welcome to come and see the panels on the car and discuss it
I am just south of Chelmsford and your profile states Essex/Suffolk so, if that is correct, I am not too far away :-)
Steve
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