500+bhp Mk3 Fiesta Project
Discussion
Gallen said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
I can't see all of the pictures at work, I hope i can view them when I get home.
Outstanding work fella.
...make yourself comfortable Outstanding work fella.
What a thread and attention to detail, fitting scuttle from a Puma and everything else that has been done.
The mind boggles.
Well done that man.
Wiring update. The loom I've used is from a later Fiesta, and it is split into a main/interior loom and an engine loom, and I've now nearly finished the interior wiring changes. All wire colours are OEM, exterior sections are insulation taped, interior are a mix of felt tape and cloth tape to maintain OEM standards.
Additional wires to the engine bay side. All are yet to be taped up:
Blue: Outside temp sensor
Re: Heated washer jets +ve
Green: Traction control on/off
The Fiesta never had switchable Traction Control, but luckily there are spare pins in the green & white connectors which join interio loom to engine loom. I have a spare loom from which I will take spare pins and wire up the switchable T/C wire as if it was standard (I have been using Ford OEM colours throughout).
There are some spare pins in the door loom plugs, so I've run an illumination feed through for some puddle lights
In the roof area
Green: Reverse light and illumination feeds ready for a compass equipped auto-dim mirror.
Blue: Existing interior light
Red: New rear interior light
Yellow: New sun visor lights
Centre console area
Red: New OEM Focus Heated seat connectors
Green: New rear seat area 12v socket
Yellow: New OEM Focus Traction control connector
Blue: Tailgate release switch
I've added an OEM 4 pin connector behind the instrument cluster area, for ground, +ve and illumination. This is for whatever engine monitoring systems I decide to fit.
I try to keep the soldered joints as neat as possible, and barely larger than the original wire
OEM plug in modules
1) Heated Front Screen -new
2) Passenger Airbag and Seatbelt pre-tensioners -new (there is a seat airbag version I'm currently looking for)
3) Screenwash low level sensor -used
I have a spares pile of OEM looms, so I can utilise any OEM connectors, pins, wire colours etc. Our house is a renovation project so I don't feel guily about leaving this in the spare room...
Additional wires to the engine bay side. All are yet to be taped up:
Blue: Outside temp sensor
Re: Heated washer jets +ve
Green: Traction control on/off
The Fiesta never had switchable Traction Control, but luckily there are spare pins in the green & white connectors which join interio loom to engine loom. I have a spare loom from which I will take spare pins and wire up the switchable T/C wire as if it was standard (I have been using Ford OEM colours throughout).
There are some spare pins in the door loom plugs, so I've run an illumination feed through for some puddle lights
In the roof area
Green: Reverse light and illumination feeds ready for a compass equipped auto-dim mirror.
Blue: Existing interior light
Red: New rear interior light
Yellow: New sun visor lights
Centre console area
Red: New OEM Focus Heated seat connectors
Green: New rear seat area 12v socket
Yellow: New OEM Focus Traction control connector
Blue: Tailgate release switch
I've added an OEM 4 pin connector behind the instrument cluster area, for ground, +ve and illumination. This is for whatever engine monitoring systems I decide to fit.
I try to keep the soldered joints as neat as possible, and barely larger than the original wire
OEM plug in modules
1) Heated Front Screen -new
2) Passenger Airbag and Seatbelt pre-tensioners -new (there is a seat airbag version I'm currently looking for)
3) Screenwash low level sensor -used
I have a spares pile of OEM looms, so I can utilise any OEM connectors, pins, wire colours etc. Our house is a renovation project so I don't feel guily about leaving this in the spare room...
Edited by mwstewart on Friday 18th March 16:05
Oh excellent, I have a thing for Fiestas like this, my neighbor where I grew up had a series of XRs, a blue mk2 XR2 And then a bright red XR2i whilst another neighbor had a grey/blue Escort XR3i Cabriolet. Over the road had an 8v Astra GTE whilst we had 3 205 GTIs in the family, proper 90s hot hatches Fantastic project you've got on your hands!
DuncanM said:
It's all been said before but I'll add that this project is utterly amazing and is testament to your seemingly endless talent .
Best thread I have read for while.
Although it amuses me somewhat that this car (beast!) will be your girlfriends daily driver ha ha ha!
Duncan
Ahh. This idea went out of the window when the project left the realms of 'cheap'. She (Lindsey) isn't a bad driver, but anything I lend her seems to need tracking within a month I ended up buying her something more modern as my car is too big for her really.Best thread I have read for while.
Although it amuses me somewhat that this car (beast!) will be your girlfriends daily driver ha ha ha!
Duncan
Thanks for the comments!
Mark
Puma/Mk5 Fiesta dashboard fitting.
The A Pillar required modification
Top: an angled fixing bracket with captive nut
Middle: hole for a locating peg on the dashboard
Bottom: New bracket for the lower dashboard fixing
All bolted in correctly
Perfect fit along the bottom of the windscreen.
Here's the dash in place together with a Focus centre console that I will modify to fit.
Comparison of door seals: Mk3 Fiesta, left, and Mk5 Fiesta, right. I have a set of Mk5 seals on order as they provide a better seal.
The A Pillar required modification
Top: an angled fixing bracket with captive nut
Middle: hole for a locating peg on the dashboard
Bottom: New bracket for the lower dashboard fixing
All bolted in correctly
Perfect fit along the bottom of the windscreen.
Here's the dash in place together with a Focus centre console that I will modify to fit.
Comparison of door seals: Mk3 Fiesta, left, and Mk5 Fiesta, right. I have a set of Mk5 seals on order as they provide a better seal.
Wow! Hope I'll be building cars like that one day... hopefully that day isn't too many years away!
I love the idea of such a subtle rebuild - no unwanted attention yet you can easily burn off any cocky max power brigade when you want too
Again everyone has said it but the attention to detail is amazing. Will be bookmarking this one!
Carwyn
I love the idea of such a subtle rebuild - no unwanted attention yet you can easily burn off any cocky max power brigade when you want too
Again everyone has said it but the attention to detail is amazing. Will be bookmarking this one!
Carwyn
All, Thank you for the compliments!
I collected the new wheels this weekend past, only to get them home to find the PCD was 4x114 rather than 4x108. To add insult to injury this was a custom order to my specification! I complained to the supplier and Team Dynamics responded by giving me a 25% discount should I order another set – so I have.
My engine will be ready by May; I spoke to the builder last night and the head has been ported and 16x oversize valves and associated hardware fitted. Cams will be replaced with Ian’s ‘response’ spec cams, and the Turbo is a GT30 based unit. I now have to source a nice Dry Sump system, and once the engine is built, make it fit in the bay along with HPAS, A/C and the Alternator – wish me luck!
I collected the new wheels this weekend past, only to get them home to find the PCD was 4x114 rather than 4x108. To add insult to injury this was a custom order to my specification! I complained to the supplier and Team Dynamics responded by giving me a 25% discount should I order another set – so I have.
My engine will be ready by May; I spoke to the builder last night and the head has been ported and 16x oversize valves and associated hardware fitted. Cams will be replaced with Ian’s ‘response’ spec cams, and the Turbo is a GT30 based unit. I now have to source a nice Dry Sump system, and once the engine is built, make it fit in the bay along with HPAS, A/C and the Alternator – wish me luck!
http://www.zenperformance.co.uk/
these guys can supply a dry sump system for a zetec, at about half the money Pace want
Best of british Mark
these guys can supply a dry sump system for a zetec, at about half the money Pace want
Best of british Mark
Greg_D said:
http://www.zenperformance.co.uk/
these guys can supply a dry sump system for a zetec, at about half the money Pace want
Best of british Mark
Excellent, thanks Greg.these guys can supply a dry sump system for a zetec, at about half the money Pace want
Best of british Mark
Email sent.
pistonchris said:
Just a quick question how come no matter how many ford mags you read with big bhp fWd fords they never seem to match up to the vauxhalls.A example is speckys Tigra 500 bhp and 10.1 quarter mile but the fords with similar spec seem to be at least a second slower.
There are too many factors to compare cars based on power level alone, for example; driver, gearing, tyres, weight, suspension, geometry to name a few. The engine specification also plays a big part as two cars with a comparable power figure can behave completely differently depending on what the driver wanted from the build.I'm not really familiar with 1/4 mile races as they aren't my 'thing', but I know 10.1 in a FWD car is very impressive. I should image that car was in some way set up for 1/4 mile work? My project for example will not be, as I want it optimised for actual driving.
mwstewart said:
pistonchris said:
Just a quick question how come no matter how many ford mags you read with big bhp fWd fords they never seem to match up to the vauxhalls.A example is speckys Tigra 500 bhp and 10.1 quarter mile but the fords with similar spec seem to be at least a second slower.
There are too many factors to compare cars based on power level alone, for example; driver, gearing, tyres, weight, suspension, geometry to name a few. The engine specification also plays a big part as two cars with a comparable power figure can behave completely differently depending on what the driver wanted from the build.I'm not really familiar with 1/4 mile races as they aren't my 'thing', but I know 10.1 in a FWD car is very impressive. I should image that car was in some way set up for 1/4 mile work? My project for example will not be, as I want it optimised for actual driving.
It's just i know how much zetec builds cost and i just doesnt seem right.
pistonchris said:
Ok i was just wondering it's just it seems anybody can chuck a half assed corsa together and beat most cars.
It's just i know how much zetec builds cost and i just doesnt seem right.
I very much doubt that Ford projects are disproportionally more expensive than similar Vauxhall projects: both are cheap brands and the components required to sustain reasonable HP from a forced induction 4cyl motor are usually around the same irrespective of manufacturer.It's just i know how much zetec builds cost and i just doesnt seem right.
I suspect some people may exaggerate their build costs
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