Has your 996 or 997 engine had a major rebuild?

Has your 996 or 997 engine had a major rebuild?

Poll: Has your 996 or 997 engine had a major rebuild?

Total Members Polled: 867

No: 488
Yes because of the IMS: 65
Yes because of scored bores: 91
Haven't bought one because of known faults: 183
Yes because of D Chunk failure: 9
Re-built prior to purchase, not sure why?: 44
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Discussion

LordHaveMurci

12,043 posts

169 months

Monday 28th November 2016
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AngryBaldMan said:
So.....

If I'm getting this right, the IMS bearing "might", fail, but the bore scoring will definitely happen with age?

I was looking at a 996, but even if it's had the IMS bearing work done, it's still going to fail later on if it's gone over 100k milesfrown
Plenty of cars out there have done well in excess of 100k with no issues, as with every engine they will all fail at some point!

griffter

3,983 posts

255 months

Tuesday 29th November 2016
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AngryBaldMan said:
So.....

If I'm getting this right, the IMS bearing "might", fail, but the bore scoring will definitely happen with age?

I was looking at a 996, but even if it's had the IMS bearing work done, it's still going to fail later on if it's gone over 100k milesfrown
There are 996s and 996s. Early cars (996.1 with the "boxster" head lamps) have a 3.4l engine with a sometimes vulnerable ims bearing, but don't generally bore score. As a rather crude rule, most of these are now past the point of premature failure.
Later cars (996.2 with the "turbo look" head lamps) have a 3.6 or 3.8l engine which seem to bore score with age and mileage more frequently than you'd hope. Some of these failures are premature (ie well under 100k miles). Ims bearings can be problematic but later cars have a stronger bearing.

These are gross generalisations. Although the cause of bore scoring seems to be related to design and specifically cooling, the unpredictable nature of failure suggests there is something else at work as well - fuel, usage, manufacturing batches, who knows? The same might be true to some extent with ims failures but the nature of the failures seems less common and more random.
The best you can do (IMHO) is buy the car you like on the understanding it's a bit of a lottery. The odds are in your favour and seem to vary depending on the specific model, but "it could happen to you" so go in with your eyes open.

hartech

1,929 posts

217 months

Tuesday 29th November 2016
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There is another very sensible alternative to consider - taking out some protection against the full cost of a repair in case it happens to be necessary during your ownership.

There are several available among which is our own Lifetime Maintenance Plan which for a monthly payment covers the full cost of annual servicing and MOT's (so you always get something back), the labour cost for most repairs (even wear and tear ones) and also covers the labour cost of an engine repair (which is a large proportion of the total) - and it also accommodates other upgrades during a repair for just the parts costs (where relevant) - see www.hartech,org.

Baz



ferrisbueller

29,327 posts

227 months

Tuesday 29th November 2016
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monthefish

20,443 posts

231 months

Tuesday 29th November 2016
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griffter said:
Later cars (996.2 with the "turbo look" head lamps) have a 3.6 or 3.8l engine which seem to bore score with age and mileage more frequently than you'd hope.
The 3.8 996's are the worst. There aren't any driving around today on their original engine.

LordHaveMurci

12,043 posts

169 months

Tuesday 29th November 2016
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monthefish said:
The 3.8 996's are the worst. There aren't any driving around today on their original engine.
rofl

micky1786

126 posts

104 months

Tuesday 31st January 2017
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Thread revival I think. Had a rebuild last year due to engine seizure down to mechaninc who had the car and now the cars broken down again after 1500 miles give or take with a judder and oil light flashing and stalled with a puff of smoke in 2017
And it's a Carrera 3.4 996 x reg
Started up to make sure and it was pouring out with smoke ??


EDIT HOLE IN ENGINE

Edited by micky1786 on Tuesday 31st January 18:10


Edited by micky1786 on Tuesday 31st January 18:12


Edited by micky1786 on Monday 20th February 23:15

LordHaveMurci

12,043 posts

169 months

Tuesday 31st January 2017
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anonymous said:
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Everybodys favourite Disney character by the sound of it.

ooid

4,088 posts

100 months

Tuesday 31st January 2017
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micky1786 said:
Thread revival I think. Had a rebuild last year due to engine seizure down to mechaninc who had the car and now the cars broken down again after 1500 miles give take with a judder and oil light flashing and stalled with a puff of smoke 2017
Carrera 3.4 996 x reg
Started up to make sure and yet pouring out with smoke ??

Edited by micky1786 on Tuesday 31st January 18:10


Edited by micky1786 on Tuesday 31st January 18:12
Most rebuilds offer at least 1 year warranty. I do hope your warranty still not expired and ideally you should go to the mechanic who rebuilt it. It could be anything, they are very old cars nowadays. Good luck!

micky1786

126 posts

104 months

Monday 20th February 2017
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anonymous said:
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Some butchers in rainham Essex who just do engines. It was a 3.4 c4s 1999 pistons were shot that time so they said it was stripped and rebuilt but rams a year and now there's a hole in the top of the engine!!!

micky1786

126 posts

104 months

Monday 20th February 2017
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ooid said:
Most rebuilds offer at least 1 year warranty. I do hope your warranty still not expired and ideally you should go to the mechanic who rebuilt it. It could be anything, they are very old cars nowadays. Good luck!
Just my luck that the 1 year is up and the guy that did the job died the year we got the car back. He tried to say the egr was knackered and I told him these cars don't have an egr valve. He was persistent to charge £200 for one but never got that money for it as it doesn't exist.


micky1786

126 posts

104 months

Monday 20th February 2017
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LordHaveMurci said:
Everybodys favourite Disney character by the sound of it.
Yeah it was furious

LordHaveMurci

12,043 posts

169 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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micky1786 said:
It was a 3.4 c4s 1999
It wasn't.

Adam B

27,247 posts

254 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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I did think that - no such car existed

micky1786

126 posts

104 months

Saturday 4th March 2017
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Adam B said:
I did think that - no such car existed
???

micky1786

126 posts

104 months

Saturday 4th March 2017
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Adam B said:
I did think that - no such car existed
You don't know porsche then as that's what our V5c

Edited by micky1786 on Saturday 4th March 10:38

Magic919

14,126 posts

201 months

Saturday 4th March 2017
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The C4S didn't exist then, nor did it ever have the 3.4 engine.

paul chocks

74 posts

163 months

Saturday 4th March 2017
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Auto versions of the 4wd 3.4 were known as Carrera 4 tiptronic S - frustratingly often the tiptronic is omitted in descriptions. Maybe it does say C4S on V5C, but it's not the same car as the wide body C4S that was badged as such.

micky1786

126 posts

104 months

Saturday 4th March 2017
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Magic919 said:
The C4S didn't exist then, nor did it ever have the 3.4 engine.
Sorry for the confusion mate, it's a C4 triptronic s 3.4 engine.

Magic919

14,126 posts

201 months

Saturday 4th March 2017
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Don't worry, I don't have a beard :-)