Has your 996 or 997 engine had a major rebuild?

Has your 996 or 997 engine had a major rebuild?

Poll: Has your 996 or 997 engine had a major rebuild?

Total Members Polled: 867

No: 488
Yes because of the IMS: 65
Yes because of scored bores: 91
Haven't bought one because of known faults: 183
Yes because of D Chunk failure: 9
Re-built prior to purchase, not sure why?: 44
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Discussion

mph

2,332 posts

282 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2014
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c4sman said:
most 996/997 owners do not post on pistonheads.
So what ?

Are you suggesting that posting on PH is more likely to cause engine failure ?


Magic919

14,126 posts

201 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2014
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Quite a few people join PH for help once they have an engine problem.

monthefish

20,443 posts

231 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2014
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mph said:
c4sman said:
most 996/997 owners do not post on pistonheads.
So what ?

Are you suggesting that posting on PH is more likely to cause engine failure ?
No. Don't be silly.

The point being made is that the sample size of 996/997 owners on PH is only a small percentage of the total of 996/997 owners, and therefore any data collected, whilst possibly representative of a larger sample size, won't necessarily be.

Have a look at the shampoo adverts on the TV that say that "87% of women agree it works".....but then states in small print that the sample size was 93 women.

LordHaveMurci

12,042 posts

169 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2014
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Magic919 said:
Quite a few people join PH for help once they have an engine problem.
^ Spot on.

TheBMWDriver

591 posts

154 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2014
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my 07 Targa 4 had one about 2 years ago with 34k on the clock.

c4sman

759 posts

154 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2014
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anonymous said:
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Exactly

c4sman

759 posts

154 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2014
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monthefish said:
No. Don't be silly.

The point being made is that the sample size of 996/997 owners on PH is only a small percentage of the total of 996/997 owners, and therefore any data collected, whilst possibly representative of a larger sample size, won't necessarily be.

Have a look at the shampoo adverts on the TV that say that "87% of women agree it works".....but then states in small print that the sample size was 93 women.
+1

edh

3,498 posts

269 months

Thursday 4th September 2014
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c4sman said:
anonymous said:
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Exactly
And very few people want to post "my car is absolutely fine & has no engine problems" just in case...

mph

2,332 posts

282 months

Monday 8th September 2014
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edh said:
And very few people want to post "my car is absolutely fine & has no engine problems" just in case...
I thought that's exactly what the survey was about.

Perhaps the PH survey isn't 100% accurate,but there is a problem and it's common enough to be of concern when considering these cars.

I would suggest that the survey was started as a helpful tool to put some numbers in place.

Looks as though many would rather not know and prefer to concentrate on undermining the survey.

Perhaps we need another survey to see how many 996 owners joined PH because they had a problem with their car wink



m17kyu

66 posts

118 months

Tuesday 23rd September 2014
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I picked up my 997.1 at start of July. After 2 weeks of ownership the car went into limp mode and was recovered back to the dealership.

Cut the story short, but it had 2 scored cylinders and is currently being rebuilt by Hartech at the dealers cost. This car had full history and only 42k on clocks.

Was purchased as summer car and got 2 weeks use from it, Gutted to say the least

LordHaveMurci

12,042 posts

169 months

Tuesday 23rd September 2014
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m17kyu said:
I picked up my 997.1 at start of July. After 2 weeks of ownership the car went into limp mode and was recovered back to the dealership.

Cut the story short, but it had 2 scored cylinders and is currently being rebuilt by Hartech at the dealers cost. This car had full history and only 42k on clocks.

Was purchased as summer car and got 2 weeks use from it, Gutted to say the least
I wouldn't be too gutted if the dealer is paying for a Hartech rebuild thumbup

Trev450

6,321 posts

172 months

Tuesday 23rd September 2014
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Certainly not the introduction to a new car you would wish for. At least you are secure in the knowledge that you are getting an engine that is far superior in terms of reliability than standard, and the opc are paying the bill. Win/win.

m17kyu

66 posts

118 months

Tuesday 23rd September 2014
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I work at Sea and to 10weeks on 10weeks off. The car had been purchased and I was waiting for 6weeks to go and collect from dealers so was really looking forward to a summer of driving.

I was so angry at first and almost asked for a refund, but after they said they would pay Hartech for the work i took a step back.

Im currently back at Sea now and wont be home until end of November, so now hoping for good weather on my return

LordHaveMurci

12,042 posts

169 months

Tuesday 23rd September 2014
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m17kyu said:
I work at Sea and to 10weeks on 10weeks off. The car had been purchased and I was waiting for 6weeks to go and collect from dealers so was really looking forward to a summer of driving.

I was so angry at first and almost asked for a refund, but after they said they would pay Hartech for the work i took a step back.

Im currently back at Sea now and wont be home until end of November, so now hoping for good weather on my return
Good luck fella, and sorry for missing the timescale when I commented. Still, long term it should work out well for you smile

m17kyu

66 posts

118 months

Tuesday 23rd September 2014
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LordHaveMurci said:
Good luck fella, and sorry for missing the timescale when I commented. Still, long term it should work out well for you smile
Cheers, If i had got refund i would have gone out and bought the first 997 i saw to replace it which would have been a bag of spanners. After few heated emails they also upgraded the courtesy car from a Golf diesel eco, save the world 10,000miles to a tank, to a brand new Merc C Class which i rather liked

m17kyu

66 posts

118 months

Tuesday 23rd September 2014
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anonymous said:
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No was not an OPC dealer, but rather a Prestige car dealership

m17kyu

66 posts

118 months

Tuesday 23rd September 2014
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I had reported to them that i was using a lot of oil and sending daily pictures of oil level and mileage. They had also arranged to have the bores inspected in a local Porsche garage near me as I live in Scotland and dealers is in Yorkshire. The car went into limp mode 2 days before this happened, so called them and requested the car to be collected.

They stripped the engine out at the dealership, but after researching the issues i guess they decided to send it to Hartech and just had tto take the hit for costs to keep a good reputation for company

m17kyu

66 posts

118 months

Tuesday 23rd September 2014
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Think the alarm bells rang when they saw metal shavings in oil filter biggrin

DAMCHIEF

21 posts

154 months

Tuesday 23rd September 2014
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Well done to the dealer concerned. Can you name them for future reference as it's good to have positive feedback for a change.

monthefish

20,443 posts

231 months

Tuesday 23rd September 2014
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anonymous said:
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How would bore scoring not show up on a bore inspection?