959 Sold by Coys

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Hyper10

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432 posts

169 months

Thursday 15th September 2011
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Looking at Coy's website they had a 959 listed and the auction results show it as sold for £137,000 plus buyers costs. Even if these were £20K, did this make the car very cheap. I had a notion that these things ran to much more money or have I missed something

POORCARDEALER

8,524 posts

241 months

Thursday 15th September 2011
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Its about right, in todays market with the premiums....they have increased, I sold a few in the mid 90's and they could be bought for 80Kish then trade

Lightningman

1,228 posts

182 months

Thursday 15th September 2011
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Seems the right money.

Porsche Reading have bumped up the annual service costs to a silly amount (iirc a big annual service was put up to £20,000). Porsche, in their wisdom, saw that the service costs of the 959 were a pittance when compared against other low volume 80's supercars and decided to put their service costs in line. This is the story I was told by an expert on the 959 and was given as the reason why they have stalled and not increased in price.

dommorton

176 posts

172 months

Thursday 15th September 2011
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I saw this car at the PCGB show a couple of weeks back.

Whilst very nice, it was a way off being immaculate IMO.


khushy

3,964 posts

219 months

Friday 16th September 2011
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Lightningman said:
Seems the right money.

Porsche Reading have bumped up the annual service costs to a silly amount (iirc a big annual service was put up to £20,000). Porsche, in their wisdom, saw that the service costs of the 959 were a pittance when compared against other low volume 80's supercars and decided to put their service costs in line. This is the story I was told by an expert on the 959 and was given as the reason why they have stalled and not increased in price.
QuickFit?

MogulBoy

2,932 posts

223 months

Friday 16th September 2011
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Here's a nice one..

http://www.kidston.com/kidston-cars/109/1993-Porsc...

£20k for an 'Annual' service? Amazing, if true. Would be interesting to know what you would get for all that money.. 100hrs of labour at £200/hr??

Junior Bianno

1,400 posts

193 months

Friday 16th September 2011
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I know it's a rally homologation, but I think the gaps in the arches look ridiculous. Needs slammed - 50/60mm each corner I would say smile (am I going to hell?)


thegoose

8,075 posts

210 months

Friday 16th September 2011
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MogulBoy said:
£20k for an 'Annual' service? Amazing, if true. Would be interesting to know what you would get for all that money.. 100hrs of labour at £200/hr??
That doesn't ring true with this:
Kidston advert said:
...in March 2005, the current British owner acquired the car with some 45,000km covered. Since then it has been serviced every year by Porsche GB without regard to cost, and bills for £25,000 are on file. During the present ownership Porsche GB has overhauled the suspension, fitted a new clutch, repaired oil leaks, refurbished the magnesium wheels and serviced the all-wheel drive system.
£25k over 6 years doesn't sound quite so bad, given the repairs/refurbishment that has been done.

Lightningman

1,228 posts

182 months

Friday 16th September 2011
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I'm just telling you what I was told by one of the 'respected' specialist Porsche sales companies; it certainly wouldn't surprise me (when you consider what a full service on many of the 80s super cars costs) but as always, it could be wrong.

Why not call OPC Reading and ask them how much a full service for your 959 is.


anniesdad

14,589 posts

238 months

Friday 16th September 2011
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Junior Bianno said:
I know it's a rally homologation, but I think the gaps in the arches look ridiculous. Needs slammed - 50/60mm each corner I would say smile (am I going to hell?)
The sport version was a little lower than the Comfort version IIRC. Lowering the car too much would have destroyed it's ability to operate in it's intended capacity....autobahn missile/supercar commuter?

Flemke has a 959, I'll try and point him to this to hopefully provide some insight. Although I do remember other threads about the 959 so maybe worth a search by those interested.


Edited by anniesdad on Friday 16th September 13:20

stefan1

977 posts

232 months

Friday 16th September 2011
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Re the service costs, Porsche Reading charge by the hour. They do not inflate prices because of the car, as intimated above. The issue with 959s is the cost of parts charged by Porsche Germany. These have inflated significantly over the past few years. For example, a new rear PU (which is a very large and complex piece for sure) is nigh on £50k. You could probably tool up a carbon fibre replica of that part for less!

I did consider buying a 959 a few years ago - I decided not to because of the very high parts costs. As I say, that is nothing to do with Porsche Reading.

Cheers

Police State

4,066 posts

220 months

Friday 16th September 2011
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stefan1 said:
Re the service costs, Porsche Reading charge by the hour. They do not inflate prices because of the car, as intimated above. The issue with 959s is the cost of parts charged by Porsche Germany. These have inflated significantly over the past few years. For example, a new rear PU (which is a very large and complex piece for sure) is nigh on £50k. You could probably tool up a carbon fibre replica of that part for less!

I did consider buying a 959 a few years ago - I decided not to because of the very high parts costs. As I say, that is nothing to do with Porsche Reading.

Cheers
Rear PU @ 50K!!! I was told (by the right man) it would cost £18k (inc. vat) four years ago. That is some increase.

stefan1

977 posts

232 months

Friday 16th September 2011
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Police State said:
Rear PU @ 50K!!! I was told (by the right man) it would cost £18k (inc. vat) four years ago. That is some increase.
Indeed.

The CGT is not immune to this - I understand that the car's undertrays have nearly tripled in price since launch - perhaps due to reduced stock levels - but either way I approach dips and compressions with some care now. A set would cost over £30k.

That gives me an excuse to post this video - watch at 1.35, 3.00 and 7.12 (per the lap timer on screen). Expensive sounds!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vge2ZZVjplk

Superb driving, though.

The Moose

22,849 posts

209 months

Friday 16th September 2011
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The Coys car was not a nice car (according to my sources). The value of a well sorts car is more than £137k.

Also, the £10k pa rumours of old weren't entirely accurate!!

flemke

22,865 posts

237 months

Friday 16th September 2011
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The car costs nothing like £20k/yr to service, unless it's being driven 50k miles p.a. or something.
How much has got to be replaced typically? This is one of the highest build-quality Porsches ever made. It's not like the thing's going to start falling apart after a bit of use.
One thing that is high maintenance is the damper-lifting system. Fwiw, the Sport model did not have them, and is much the better for it.

The Moose

22,849 posts

209 months

Friday 16th September 2011
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flemke said:
The car costs nothing like £20k/yr to service, unless it's being driven 50k miles p.a. or something.
How much has got to be replaced typically? This is one of the highest build-quality Porsches ever made. It's not like the thing's going to start falling apart after a bit of use.
One thing that is high maintenance is the damper-lifting system. Fwiw, the Sport model did not have them, and is much the better for it.
It pisses me off all this about £10/20k pa servicing costs - it just isn't so!!

Out of interest flemke, who looks after yours?

Flat6time

1,656 posts

210 months

Saturday 17th September 2011
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Coys are crooks. and that black 959 was in poor nick.

Vmaxx Nut

75 posts

155 months

Saturday 17th September 2011
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What would a 959R be worth ?

Pesty

42,655 posts

256 months

Saturday 17th September 2011
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I know nothing about these things as I will now demonstrate.

Compared to the sort of prices 964/993 turbo Ss' are going up for these days that seems very cheap to me.

Perhaps I hold the 959 on too high a pedistal.

Spy

1,304 posts

207 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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stefan1 said:
Indeed.

The CGT is not immune to this - I understand that the car's undertrays have nearly tripled in price since launch - perhaps due to reduced stock levels - but either way I approach dips and compressions with some care now. A set would cost over £30k.

That gives me an excuse to post this video - watch at 1.35, 3.00 and 7.12 (per the lap timer on screen). Expensive sounds!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vge2ZZVjplk

Superb driving, though.
This isn't unusual for limited run super cars.

A Maclaren SLR bonnet costs circa £70k I believe because it has to be manufactured to order !