991 Racing Yellow - The Money Shots

991 Racing Yellow - The Money Shots

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Ian_UK1

1,515 posts

195 months

Monday 14th November 2011
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But that's a 996.2....

Edit: That lost most of the 996.1's elegance

911p

2,335 posts

181 months

Monday 14th November 2011
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Ian_UK1 said:
But that's a 996.2....

Edit: That lost most of the 996.1's elegance
Indeed, the front is alot more aggressive than the 996.1's - not too much difference from the side profile though.

SFO

5,169 posts

184 months

Monday 14th November 2011
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911p said:



Better comparison, same colour.

Edited by 911p on Monday 14th November 20:44
996 doesn't have spoiler up

911p

2,335 posts

181 months

Monday 14th November 2011
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SFO said:
996 doesn't have spoiler up
Removed 991 spoiler now, hopefully a better comparison.

OlberJ

14,101 posts

234 months

Monday 14th November 2011
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Well there you go, it looks like the least ever liked version of the 911. hehe

Junior Bianno

1,400 posts

194 months

Monday 14th November 2011
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Ian_UK1 said:
Are you really serious?

This:



makes this:



look dated, fat, bloated, ill-proportioned, contrived, designed-by-committee-that-never-met, etc. etc.

The original 996 was a beautiful, minimalist, svelte, compact, visionary, elegant, subtle, sexy and appealing design - everything the 991 isn't and never will be. Like Art Deco vs. Brutalism.
Wow! Without a doubt the most glowing endorsement of the 996 I've ever heard. Ever.

I'll take the 991 over the weak looking, goggle eyed munter thanks wink


Phooey

12,630 posts

170 months

Monday 14th November 2011
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Ian_UK1 said:
The original 996 was a beautiful, minimalist, svelte, compact, visionary, elegant, subtle, sexy and appealing design
R u taking the piss? It was fking awful. I lost all interest in Porsche in 1998

mollytherocker

14,366 posts

210 months

Monday 14th November 2011
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Phooey said:
Ian_UK1 said:
The original 996 was a beautiful, minimalist, svelte, compact, visionary, elegant, subtle, sexy and appealing design
R u taking the piss? It was fking awful. I lost all interest in Porsche in 1998
Indeed. Its true that the 996 shape is ageing well, but the only word I could agree with is 'subtle'.

Excepting the eggs of course.

MTR

jackal

11,248 posts

283 months

Tuesday 15th November 2011
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911p said:



Better comparison, same colour.

Edited by 911p on Monday 14th November 20:58
The rear ovehang hasnt looked right on any water cooled 911 from a side on angle.



tomw2000

2,508 posts

196 months

Tuesday 15th November 2011
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Hmmm, I'm starting to quite like 'it' from some angles. I think from the original post - it was photos 1 and 3.

But I like it in 'not a 911' way. Or something.


Phooey

12,630 posts

170 months

Tuesday 15th November 2011
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From the hundreds of images on tinternet and in the mags, one thing to me seems clear.. black is THE colour for the 991. Standard 'S' rims too.

My view on colour/s might change when i see it in the flesh (Leicester OPC preview night in December)

Gibbo205

3,559 posts

208 months

Tuesday 15th November 2011
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Hi there


Far preferre the 997 looks:-











mollytherocker

14,366 posts

210 months

Tuesday 15th November 2011
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jackal said:
In fact I have never seen a single car in my entire life that looked any good in grey. Some people say a DB9 or a Vantage looks good in Grey but I reckon those people are missing most of their right hemisphere.
At first, I thought that this was a crazy statement. But, I have had time to reflect and whilst I cant agree that a car never looked good in grey, I cant think of one car that looks 'best' in grey. A challenge for PH'ers??

I hope bright colours are coming back and this grey country needs it!

Buying a dull colour on a 911 'for resale' is very sad.

MTR

Gibbo205

3,559 posts

208 months

Tuesday 15th November 2011
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mollytherocker said:
At first, I thought that this was a crazy statement. But, I have had time to reflect and whilst I cant agree that a car never looked good in grey, I cant think of one car that looks 'best' in grey. A challenge for PH'ers??

I hope bright colours are coming back and this grey country needs it!

Buying a dull colour on a 911 'for resale' is very sad.

MTR
M3 CSL and Aston V8 Vantage Id choose in dark silver/grey every time. smile

Slippydiff

14,872 posts

224 months

Tuesday 15th November 2011
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jackal said:
It's I'm odd . . . the worst pics on this page are of it in grey. Never has a 911 looked so tedious. In fact I have never seen a single car in my entire life that looked any good in grey.
Then I suggest you go to Specsavers or have the workings of your right hemisphere investigated smile

















jackal said:
Some people say a DB9 or a Vantage looks good in Grey but I reckon those people are missing most of their right hemisphere.


You're wrong, see above. smile

jackal said:
As for the car, everyone will love the 991 in time ... it just takes a few months for the eye to become accumstomed and one's intial resistance to be broken down. I have seen this over and over again and you all should know better now. The same thing happened when my mum got her first datsun 120Y after a string of Hillman Imps. Took an age to get used to the strange japanese car but once we did, we couldn't look at another IMP again.
Everyone ? That's An opinionated/misguided statement even by your standards J ! ! I'd suggest this won't be the case with the 991.

To many, the 911 has been getting excessively larger and bulkier over the past thirteen years. There comes a point when the DNA of the original gets lost or so diluted that it ceases to be perceived as a 911, some would say that happened when Porsche went from the 993 to the 996, this latest iteration of the 911 would appear to have crossed the rubicon for many 911 fans.

jackal said:
A string of Hillman Imps ?
Talk about gluttons for punishment . . . hehe

jackal said:
I remember when bangle first came out with the 7 series and the Z4 and his flame surfacing was something totally new, the like of which no one had ever seen ... there was massive resistance to it and folk all over the internet hated his style
I still do wink the Z4 with its saggy sills/midriff and awkward rear three quarter styling just doesn't do it for me. Worse still, his aggressive and supposedly innovative flame surfacing has been watered down over the years and left us with cars like the E90 M3 which looks about as un-MCar like as they could.
For comfirmation see your comments below about his designs looking humdrum.

jackal said:
A few years on though and the original bangle designs actually seem pretty humdrum and as for flame surfacing, sudden direction changes and creases in the middle of large panels, ... well you see that even on a basic Perouda/Ssangyong ! Bangle knew exactly what he was doing and he predicted the market long before folk like us did. The 991 will be great I think. Of course you have to see it in the flesh as well, pictures mean nothing.
And I think you're wrong smile And the fact that you think Perouda and Ssangyong using such styling cues in some way validates them, shows just how misguided your thought processes are ! biggrin

jackal said:
Just a shame its reportedly so non-911-ish. If its not going to make you feel alive, dick around underneath you, throw you off the road, feel completely chock full of unwanted fidegting, arse end heavy and ponderous and requiring constant attention .... well, you may as well plump for the extra parcticality and get a CayenneCayman instead.
EFA


mollytherocker

14,366 posts

210 months

Tuesday 15th November 2011
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They look great slippydiff but its not the grey colour that does it.

In my view, those examples look much better in alternative colours.

MTR

Slippydiff

14,872 posts

224 months

Tuesday 15th November 2011
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mollytherocker said:
They look great slippydiff but its not the grey colour that does it.

In my view, those examples look much better in alternative colours.

MTR
It is (if you happen to like grey cars) as I do.

There is no other colour I'd have 997 GT2 in.
Likewise I'd be very tempted by a grey 997 GT3 RS Gen 2 (retain the red wheels and logos on the rear quarter and front wing, but lose the chequers down the sides and the painted grill in the front bumper)

The 996 Turbo I briefly owned was Seal grey and looked better than silver or black. Recently there was a Seal grey pre-facelift 996 C4 with aerokit for sale in the classifieds, it looked so much better than the equivalent Artic example.

All IMVHO obviously smile

jackal

11,248 posts

283 months

Tuesday 15th November 2011
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Slippydiff said:
jackal said:
It's I'm odd . . .
I can accept that you're a 'Grey' man ... kudos to you. But on this one you'll have to concede that you're the 'odd' one in the minority. As a commercial photographer who gets hired to make manufacturers cars look amazing in brochures, adverts etc.. I have to take a wider and more objective view which takes into account people's tastes on a sample size greater than one. We never shoot grey cars. I don't want it nor does the client. As Molly says, there are so many other colours that look far better. An aston I can just about get (although not under a myriad of indoor exhibition spotlights which is the only time you will see a car looking like that) because of its accomplished overall shape, but the modern 911 just doesn't have the physique to cut it in grey. Ok the red graphics liven it up a little but other than that, you're on your own !

Grey also sends out the worst messages of all .....over controlling, emotionally repressed, middling and RESALE ! wink

mollytherocker

14,366 posts

210 months

Tuesday 15th November 2011
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Slippydiff said:
It is (if you happen to like grey cars) as I do.

There is no other colour I'd have 997 GT2 in.
Likewise I'd be very tempted by a grey 997 GT3 RS Gen 2 (retain the red wheels and logos on the rear quarter and front wing, but lose the chequers down the sides and the painted grill in the front bumper)

The 996 Turbo I briefly owned was Seal grey and looked better than silver or black. Recently there was a Seal grey pre-facelift 996 C4 with aerokit for sale in the classifieds, it looked so much better than the equivalent Artic example.

All IMVHO obviously smile
I would have a GT2 in white and a GT2RS in red.cloud9 Grey justs fades into the background. What is it about bright colours that you dont like?



MTR

mollytherocker

14,366 posts

210 months

Tuesday 15th November 2011
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jackal said:
Grey also sends out the worst messages of all .....over controlling, emotionally repressed, middling and RESALE ! wink
Damn! What does red say about me?

Or yellow about you!!!

MTR