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Phunk, ATM, some really helpful information there.

Food for thought indeed.

[snotrag]

If the wheels are 17s, it's not even that much for tyres, and I mean proper Michelin/Conti etc.

[Rosewood Red]

I thought Meridian was silver? Darker than Arctic, with a hint of sandstone. Definitely wouldn't call it beige!

According to my Tequipment catalogue, those wheels look a lot like 18" SportClassic IIs, but unlike them, aren't split. Could very well by 17" SportClassics, like these: http://rennlist.com/forums/964-forum/706145-porsch...

FWIW, OE tyre sizes front / rear:
205 50 17 / 255 40 17
225 40 18 / 265 35 18

Have a look on Camskill. I recently put a pair of 18" Uniroyal Rainsport 3s on the rear of mine. Just under £100 a side (+ fitting). Whilst not in the same league as N rated Michelins / Pirellis, I rate them highly. The Continentals that were on there were shot after 13k. Will be interesting to see how these last. Fronts are half the price.

And there was me thinking you'd given up on the idea of a Box', Iain

Phunk, where are the AC pipes located? Condensers need doing on mine too. Relatively easy, I'm led to believe:
http://www.boxa.net/forum/index.php?/topic/59949-h...

[snotrag]

I should blooming hope the rears were shot at 13k!

[Rosewood Red]

snotrag said:

I should blooming hope the rears were shot at 13k!

PO's driving. Front pads were shot having been replaced at the same time Curious to see how long the Uniroyals last.

I've only put 2k on mine, since obtaining it in October. Haven't really had the chance to drive it in anger yet. Front suspension arms shall hopefully be replaced this week, followed by geo. Then, hello 2017


Edit: Iain, 17" N rated Michelin Pilot Sport 2s all round cost sub £480 delivered, which seems reasonable!

Edited by Rosewood Red on Monday 26th December 18:35

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Rosewood Red said:

And there was me thinking you'd given up on the idea of a Box', Iain

Well, therein lies a story.

I had so confidently proclaimed that a 996 was my next step, hadn't I?

Maybe it's paralysis by analysis but I think you need generally £12-15k for a nice C2 manual coupe with some nice options. There are exceptions, but there tends to be a reason - holes in history, Tip, Convertible, 150k miles, worn interior, etc. £5-8k will buy you a good 3.2 S Box manual with sensible miles, solid history - something that has been cherished - with a tidy contingency if anything went wrong.

If a similar 996 was £10-12k like I had expected, then it's a harder choice, but that's where the market seems to be right now.

[snotrag]

I've always wanted one and I do like the 996 shape. But then I love to have the roof down, so I'd want a cab. But then, if your getting a cab, you could argue the boxster is the better car anyway.

So a 3.6 engine in my Box would do just fine!

[Rosewood Red]

Is higher miles necessarily a bad thing if the service history is up to scratch?

Here's a sub £11k manual 996 C2 coupe that I've had my eye on for a while
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...

130k, but IMSB has been replaced. Seems good value, if all else checks out.

Regardless of 986 or 996, my experince and general reading about suggests to budget between £2k and 3k for repairs and maintenance (including consumables such as tyres and brakes), although as with such things, luck will play a part and there will be statistical outliers...

I'll post an update here with total expenditure, but I think I'll easily have spent £2.5k on top of the £3.8k I paid for a 115k 2.7 in the first place. In hindsight, I sometimes wonder whether I should have waited for the right 986 S to turn up. No going back now, though.

[snotrag]

My Boxster was on 124k when I bought it 0 in spring, now nearly 130. I don't think I've spent anything on it in wouldn't have needed to spend on a 60 or 70k car anyway.
The main difference is my paint is not great and interior, sears, wheel etc a bit worn.

[Rosewood Red]

I recall yours had a recent clutch and new roof with glass screen.

Body work on mine isn't bad, but could do with a thorough detail and a couple of touch ups in places. Big bills for me include front coffin arms, tuning forks and track control arms, and in the spring, the clutch and a minor service. But whilst that's being done, I'll be thinking about preventative maintenance such as AOS, water pump, etc, and then the £ signs start to add up.

I'm also toying with the rear suspension arms, even though they seem fine and new dampers (and maybe springs) all round, although I'm not entirely sure the car needs them...

[ATM]

Rosewood Red said:

I thought Meridian was silver? Darker than Arctic, with a hint of sandstone. Definitely wouldn't call it beige!

According to my Tequipment catalogue, those wheels look a lot like 18" SportClassic IIs, but unlike them, aren't split. Could very well by 17" SportClassics, like these: http://rennlist.com/forums/964-forum/706145-porsch...

FWIW, OE tyre sizes front / rear:
205 50 17 / 255 40 17
225 40 18 / 265 35 18

Have a look on Camskill. I recently put a pair of 18" Uniroyal Rainsport 3s on the rear of mine. Just under £100 a side (+ fitting). Whilst not in the same league as N rated Michelins / Pirellis, I rate them highly. The Continentals that were on there were shot after 13k. Will be interesting to see how these last. Fronts are half the price.

And there was me thinking you'd given up on the idea of a Box', Iain

Phunk, where are the AC pipes located? Condensers need doing on mine too. Relatively easy, I'm led to believe:
http://www.boxa.net/forum/index.php?/topic/59949-h...

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I am confident that car is meridian and in some light it may look gold or beige. I could never call it silver.

Those wheels could be 17 inch. I can't tell from the pics.

[gemini]

anonymous said:

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Generally I have to agree.
6 years of Boxster ownership was good for me. Loved the car. Good for a solo drive, car club days and foreign tours. One thing always stuck in my mind though. It's not a 911!
When the decision came the only way forward was a Turbo Cab.
The power is what makes the change worth it.
Not sure a lesser bhp car would be worth the difference in price?

[gemini]

On Facebook. Richard Lee. West Yorkshire.

Porsche Boxster 3.2 S
Manual (6 speed) in black
2002 Just 47000 Genuine miles
MOTed in Sept 2016 with no advisories
Immaculate paintwork – barely a scratch or stone chip
Immaculate wheels costing £500 each - no kerbing
New disks and pads at Full Service less than 10000 ago
New tyres all round last May
Plenty of "Bang for your Buck"
£8000

[M3333]

anonymous said:

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Totally this. If you fall into this trap you can never win in the perception of others anyway.

Own a 986 - couldn't afford a 911.
Own a 996 - couldn't afford a 997 or apparently a 'real' 911.
Own a 991 - couldn't afford a Ferrari/Lambo.

It gets rather tiring.

Just buy whatever suits your needs and whatever you get enjoyment from and let others perceptions be exactly that, I found most people that told me my IMS bearing was going to explode were the sort of people that bottled out of Porsche ownership and have a MX5 / MR2 on the drive. If they are happy, that's fine.

[griffter]

I don't think you can compare 986 & 996 unless you're not looking beyond the badge. They're completely different cars! Sure they're similar forward of the a pillar, but power, torque, handling, roadholding, balance, no of seats, coupe/roadster - all different. I fell into the trap of thinking either would fulfil my brief but I drove a Boxster and - sorry - just couldn't get excited about it. It's not better or worse than a 996, but it turns out the 996 pushed my buttons; the Boxster didn't.

[M3333]

anonymous said:

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My 996 (3.6) was undoubtable faster and felt like it had a lot more torque than my Boxster - higher up. But that ruined it for me. I felt to really get any sense of fun from the 996 I had to drive it like I stole it and I would have lost my license. The Boxster is a much better package as a 'weekend fun' car. I would probably find the 911 easier to live with as a daily driver. Cant beat a country blast in the Boxster with the top down, the induction raw from the side is fantastic and it handles just right with ample amounts of power to have some real fun without it feeling boring or wanting to hurt myself. I doubt a 996 cab would be worth the extra premium.

[Rosewood Red]

Talking about colours, whilst some are nicer than others, I'm not sure there are many 'bad' exterior colours that'd stop me from buying a car that otherwise ticked all the boxes. Although, I'm not sure I could live with Pastel Yellow. Speed Yellow, sure. I'd also have to see Ocean Jade Metallic in the flesh.

Certain interiors don't work with certain exteriors. Nephrite green however... Why was that even offered?



There's one on AT quite cheap - the vendor has tried to disguise the colour of the interior. This pic gives the game away though:



http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...

Wonder if that'd ever sell...

[monty999]

M3333 said:

anonymous said:

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Totally this. If you fall into this trap you can never win in the perception of others anyway.

Own a 986 - couldn't afford a 911.
Own a 996 - couldn't afford a 997 or apparently a 'real' 911.
Own a 991 - couldn't afford a Ferrari/Lambo.

It gets rather tiring.

Just buy whatever suits your needs and whatever you get enjoyment from and let others perceptions be exactly that, I found most people that told me my IMS bearing was going to explode were the sort of people that bottled out of Porsche ownership and have a MX5 / MR2 on the drive. If they are happy, that's fine.

You could apply this reasoning to virtually everything fashionable-clothes, tech, phones, cars. It's worth is with the owner, if it's what you want then who gives a toss if someone else thinks it's not worth the price-tag. Some people (namely my wife) wouldn't be convinced to get an Octavia because it wasn't a Golf. We buy things that make us feel good not because they're worth the cost, so thats why the wife got a VW not a Skoda and the son wears Nike and not Umbro and we all use I-phones instead of Motorola's ! Unfortunately you are right but that's life

[ooid]

just search "boxster or 964" and you guys would find plenty of topics, nearly 10 years old, people discussing which one to buy

Here is one of them;

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=320...

They are very capable cars, I'm fortunate enough to replace it with a much more modern 911 currently but can't see the point, except having 2 more seats really.

[ATM]

anonymous said:

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One man's warm is another man's gold. I'm just trying to give people a heads up. If you go there thinking silver you will be seriously disappointed. For me it is a definite no. I could live with a nephrite interior but I could not live with a meridian exterior.