I've just bought some poverty Pork…
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You'd obviously want to view it before bidding but it looks like it could be a nice buy for someone.
I've got Yellow Speed Racing coilovers on my Boxster.
You'd obviously want to view it before bidding but it looks like it could be a nice buy for someone.
I've got Yellow Speed Racing coilovers on my Boxster.
Edited by Escy on Friday 20th January 07:59
Thought I'd update you with my progress. Or lack thereof 
Since purchase in October, I've spent over £1500 on my Poverty Pork and in the grand scheme of things, haven't really done that much (or it seems so to me). Upon purchase, the only things that I knew were wrong with the car were front pads, rear ARB bushes, OSF and OSR brake pipes, ABS issue, clutch needed.
Then had it inspected by Cath Burrows, who highlighted many other things, a lot of which have been addressed. Link below:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4cn6xbly2v6ak0j/invoice%...
I did go overboard on the front suspension - could have got away with one coffin arm and one tuning fork, but don't like doing a half-assed job. Unfortunately, I got into a fight with a pothole and lost. Took the NSF spring out. So, two new genuine springs it was. In the grand scheme of things, that only added about £180 or so to my total spend.
I've outlined my spend below (Date, supplier, parts, cost, mileage):
46. 09/10/2016 Euro Car Parts Brembo front brake pads, Pagid wear indicators £58.78 -
47. 15/10/2016 Montague Motor Eng. Labour for #46 £30.00 113,700
48. 18/10/2016 Cath Burrows Full inspection and report - long to-do list ? £108.00 113,888
49. 21/10/2016 Shell Shell Helix Ultra 5w40 1l (Porsche A40 approved) - noticed low level whilst refuelling, likely due to oil filter removal during above inspection £17.99 114,101
50. 25/10/2016 Euro Car Parts Bosch ABS sensor, OE radiator fan resistor, RARB bushes £155.76 -
51. 25/10/2016 Montague Motor Eng. Brake fluid change £35.00 114,304
52. 05/11/2016 Camskill (tyres) / Event Tyres (fitting) 2 x 265 35 R18Y XL Uniroyal Rainsport 3 (rears) £246.78 114,390
53. 14/11/2016 B&B Components 2 x TRW tie / track rod ends 2 x Meyle "coffin arms", 2 x Meyle "tuning forks" £383.94 -
54. 12/01/2017 Euro Car Parts OE front springs £137.85 -
55. 18/01/2017 Montague Motor Eng. Labour for #50, 53 and 54 £240.00 115,103
56. 21/01/2017 Nigel Langs Garage Geometry read out / adjustments, front wheels balanced £95.40 115,135
57. 21/01/2017 Porsche Bolton Oddments tray hinge repair kit, sunvisor assembly screw £27.26 -
Went today to get the geometry set up. Hit another wall - can't be done as the rear eccentric bolts have seized to the bushes / sleeves. So it looks like I'll be doing the suspension arms at the rear too...
Still need to do the clutch, which is the only remaining major item on the list. Have a few other niggly bits that don't amount to much in the grand scheme of things.
So, just a heads up if you're considering one of these - you may find some surprises and things can get expensive with these things. Go in with an open mind, you may end up with an empty wallet A lot of it may be down to luck, mind. And it'll be no faster (possibly slower) in a straight line than a contemporary Golf GTI.
I would do it again, by the way. I don't want a GTI. Hope to have it completed by spring. Roll on summer...
Consider this due diligence.
Since purchase in October, I've spent over £1500 on my Poverty Pork and in the grand scheme of things, haven't really done that much (or it seems so to me). Upon purchase, the only things that I knew were wrong with the car were front pads, rear ARB bushes, OSF and OSR brake pipes, ABS issue, clutch needed.
Then had it inspected by Cath Burrows, who highlighted many other things, a lot of which have been addressed. Link below:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4cn6xbly2v6ak0j/invoice%...
I did go overboard on the front suspension - could have got away with one coffin arm and one tuning fork, but don't like doing a half-assed job. Unfortunately, I got into a fight with a pothole and lost. Took the NSF spring out. So, two new genuine springs it was. In the grand scheme of things, that only added about £180 or so to my total spend.
I've outlined my spend below (Date, supplier, parts, cost, mileage):
46. 09/10/2016 Euro Car Parts Brembo front brake pads, Pagid wear indicators £58.78 -
47. 15/10/2016 Montague Motor Eng. Labour for #46 £30.00 113,700
48. 18/10/2016 Cath Burrows Full inspection and report - long to-do list ? £108.00 113,888
49. 21/10/2016 Shell Shell Helix Ultra 5w40 1l (Porsche A40 approved) - noticed low level whilst refuelling, likely due to oil filter removal during above inspection £17.99 114,101
50. 25/10/2016 Euro Car Parts Bosch ABS sensor, OE radiator fan resistor, RARB bushes £155.76 -
51. 25/10/2016 Montague Motor Eng. Brake fluid change £35.00 114,304
52. 05/11/2016 Camskill (tyres) / Event Tyres (fitting) 2 x 265 35 R18Y XL Uniroyal Rainsport 3 (rears) £246.78 114,390
53. 14/11/2016 B&B Components 2 x TRW tie / track rod ends 2 x Meyle "coffin arms", 2 x Meyle "tuning forks" £383.94 -
54. 12/01/2017 Euro Car Parts OE front springs £137.85 -
55. 18/01/2017 Montague Motor Eng. Labour for #50, 53 and 54 £240.00 115,103
56. 21/01/2017 Nigel Langs Garage Geometry read out / adjustments, front wheels balanced £95.40 115,135
57. 21/01/2017 Porsche Bolton Oddments tray hinge repair kit, sunvisor assembly screw £27.26 -
Went today to get the geometry set up. Hit another wall - can't be done as the rear eccentric bolts have seized to the bushes / sleeves. So it looks like I'll be doing the suspension arms at the rear too...
Still need to do the clutch, which is the only remaining major item on the list. Have a few other niggly bits that don't amount to much in the grand scheme of things.
So, just a heads up if you're considering one of these - you may find some surprises and things can get expensive with these things. Go in with an open mind, you may end up with an empty wallet
A lot of it may be down to luck, mind. And it'll be no faster (possibly slower) in a straight line than a contemporary Golf GTI.I would do it again, by the way. I don't want a GTI. Hope to have it completed by spring. Roll on summer...
Consider this due diligence.
Edited by Rosewood Red on Saturday 21st January 16:17
@Rosewood, if you spend time on boxa.net you will find me amongst many others say that if you buy a typical 986 you will likely spend anywhere up to £2k in the first year. At the age and mileage these cars are now and have bee for the early ones stuff does where out or simply fail. If you want to avoid the spend then a super clean super low mileage one is the way to go or an enthusiast owned car who throws money at the car replacing items which could fail ahead of time. The former definitely commands a premium. The latter may deserve one but doesn't always comand one as they probably bought reasonably cheaply in the first place.
Of course the cars are at such a price that any decent size bills sees the many owners sell on or just put up with parts that are well past their best.
Of course the cars are at such a price that any decent size bills sees the many owners sell on or just put up with parts that are well past their best.
Is £1600 for a 986 2.5 with "big end" noises and very short MOT too much?
It will need most consumables soon (discs/ pads/ tyres etc), so defo a pit, I suppose I'm wondering if, by the time it's done, will it be a sorted version for the same price as the market bottom which will all need work anyway?
It will need most consumables soon (discs/ pads/ tyres etc), so defo a pit, I suppose I'm wondering if, by the time it's done, will it be a sorted version for the same price as the market bottom which will all need work anyway?
Croutons said:
Is £1600 for a 986 2.5 with "big end" noises and very short MOT too much?
It will need most consumables soon (discs/ pads/ tyres etc), so defo a pit, I suppose I'm wondering if, by the time it's done, will it be a sorted version for the same price as the market bottom which will all need work anyway?
As in engine problems? Am curious - got any further details? Feel free to pm if you don't want it public. I've got my hands full with my own project 986, however, the car you describe could be a good candidate for a 996 engine swap...It will need most consumables soon (discs/ pads/ tyres etc), so defo a pit, I suppose I'm wondering if, by the time it's done, will it be a sorted version for the same price as the market bottom which will all need work anyway?
Rosewood Red said:
Croutons said:
Is £1600 for a 986 2.5 with "big end" noises and very short MOT too much?
It will need most consumables soon (discs/ pads/ tyres etc), so defo a pit, I suppose I'm wondering if, by the time it's done, will it be a sorted version for the same price as the market bottom which will all need work anyway?
As in engine problems? Am curious - got any further details? Feel free to pm if you don't want it public. I've got my hands full with my own project 986, however, the car you describe could be a good candidate for a 996 engine swap...It will need most consumables soon (discs/ pads/ tyres etc), so defo a pit, I suppose I'm wondering if, by the time it's done, will it be a sorted version for the same price as the market bottom which will all need work anyway?
Croutons said:
Is £1600 for a 986 2.5 with "big end" noises and very short MOT too much?
It will need most consumables soon (discs/ pads/ tyres etc), so defo a pit, I suppose I'm wondering if, by the time it's done, will it be a sorted version for the same price as the market bottom which will all need work anyway?
Not really - it everything else in is reasonable condition you ought to be able to strip it and part everything out via eBay for a profit at that even if the engine is an imminent failure. It will need most consumables soon (discs/ pads/ tyres etc), so defo a pit, I suppose I'm wondering if, by the time it's done, will it be a sorted version for the same price as the market bottom which will all need work anyway?
DiscoColin said:
Croutons said:
Is £1600 for a 986 2.5 with "big end" noises and very short MOT too much?
It will need most consumables soon (discs/ pads/ tyres etc), so defo a pit, I suppose I'm wondering if, by the time it's done, will it be a sorted version for the same price as the market bottom which will all need work anyway?
Not really - it everything else in is reasonable condition you ought to be able to strip it and part everything out via eBay for a profit at that even if the engine is an imminent failure. It will need most consumables soon (discs/ pads/ tyres etc), so defo a pit, I suppose I'm wondering if, by the time it's done, will it be a sorted version for the same price as the market bottom which will all need work anyway?
Slippydiff said:
Rosewood Red said:
Ooooh. 986 + 996 GT3 motor and trick suspension = 
The Mezger into 986/7 Cayman/Boxster is not a straightforward swap (unless you want 6 reverse gears and 1 forward gear....)It has actually been done in the past (I saw a build thread somewhere once upon a time), but the costs were astronomical. Objectively though - in the context of the Poverty Pork thread even acquiring such an engine is well out of scope for being on here
ATM said:
I like the simple bumpers on these earlier cars. The sat nav is very retro. When are you going for a look Moo?
I'm not up to speed with value's, and condition is everything, but a quick glance at auto trader shows the asking price is comparable with similar cars on dealers forecourts.There has to be at least a £1K discount to offset no warranty, and dealers overheads, no ?
skatty said:
looks good but there is a recent "oil leak" on the MOT. Could be minor, could be major, just go ahead with open eyes.anonymous said:
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All the above eminently sensible but there is a definite emphasis to be added here - still waiting on my court claim 
That said, can still see myself enjoying a 986S (love the looks, the drive, the noise and feel - lots of potential for "clubsport" style mods to make it even more invigorating but no less practical etc.) if I ever get my money back and find a decent one before I buy something else (Like a kitchen
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