I've just bought some poverty Pork…

I've just bought some poverty Pork…

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edc

9,237 posts

252 months

Tuesday 7th February 2017
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I don't profess to understand all the intricacies involved in a remap but when I had my Boxster custom mapped on the dyno one area that was tweaked was the throttle request. A good mapper can adjust the feel of the throttle.

Diesel Meister

2,044 posts

202 months

Wednesday 8th February 2017
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anonymous said:
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yes

I was looking at doing this on the AW11 as it's got a sharp throttle with a tad of lag / rev-hang (emissions hangover?). Throttle response is improved by the lightweight flywheel/clutch assembly but ll else is stock RAV4 / Camry / RX350, barring the SS manifold-to backbox exhaust and unboxed ITG filter. It's a mod to the throttle map or a straight cable conversion, requiring aftermarket ECU / management I'd imagine. Bleurgh.

edc

9,237 posts

252 months

Wednesday 8th February 2017
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I just googled this http://www.formula1-dictionary.net/engine_torque_m...

As a custom map I'm sure you can have it mapped to suit. There's a lot of tables of data I'm sure. It can't be hard to mimic the action of a cable.

ATM

18,300 posts

220 months

Wednesday 8th February 2017
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bgunn said:
ATM said:
I can't remember how quick my old 3.2 boxster was. My current boxster is the newest 3.4 and it revs much more urgently.

I'm not sure about the noises. I've only heard it start up once from outside. I've been too busy blasting around in it.
Ahh - yes, I guess a new one will be a fair bit more lively!

Enjoy! Great motors - I'm sure they'll creep up in value soon.


http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Edited by ATM on Sunday 16th December 09:21

bgunn

1,417 posts

132 months

Wednesday 8th February 2017
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Good pic! hehe

I must do a readers thread on mine at some point - looks quite similar to yours, but with GT3 Sport Design wheels and a black interior.

I really am starting to like the design of the 996, I think it's actually aging very well, with a certain amount of delicacy that's being lost on later motors that are just becoming huge..

ATM

18,300 posts

220 months

Wednesday 8th February 2017
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bgunn said:
Good pic! hehe

I must do a readers thread on mine at some point - looks quite similar to yours, but with GT3 Sport Design wheels and a black interior.

I really am starting to like the design of the 996, I think it's actually aging very well, with a certain amount of delicacy that's being lost on later motors that are just becoming huge..
Thanks

Low isnt it?

I'd like the GT3 spoilers but then it would be even lower at the front. I might think about some bucket seats next and losing the rears. I definitely need tyres. Fronts are Falken and rears MPS3 with good tread and recent dates. Do you have 265/35 and 225/40 - and what pressures are you using?

bgunn

1,417 posts

132 months

Wednesday 8th February 2017
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ATM said:
Thanks

Low isnt it?

I'd like the GT3 spoilers but then it would be even lower at the front. I might think about some bucket seats next and losing the rears. I definitely need tyres. Fronts are Falken and rears MPS3 with good tread and recent dates. Do you have 265/35 and 225/40 - and what pressures are you using?
Yeah, it is quite low! Probably be too low for me in London as the roads around here are shocking - my car is on standard springs and dampers (for now) with all new arms, ARBs, bushes etc. I do plan to swap the springs and dampers to Öhlins R&T at some point.

Yep, same sizes as you, I run 36 front and 39/40 rear on the advice of CG - makes the ride considerably better and less 'jumpy'.

ATM

18,300 posts

220 months

Wednesday 8th February 2017
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bgunn said:
ATM said:
Thanks

Low isnt it?

I'd like the GT3 spoilers but then it would be even lower at the front. I might think about some bucket seats next and losing the rears. I definitely need tyres. Fronts are Falken and rears MPS3 with good tread and recent dates. Do you have 265/35 and 225/40 - and what pressures are you using?
Yeah, it is quite low! Probably be too low for me in London as the roads around here are shocking - my car is on standard springs and dampers (for now) with all new arms, ARBs, bushes etc. I do plan to swap the springs and dampers to Öhlins R&T at some point.

Yep, same sizes as you, I run 36 front and 39/40 rear on the advice of CG - makes the ride considerably better and less 'jumpy'.
I've got some unused 265/35 Federal semi slicks. I might buy some 225/40 to match and give them a whirl.

bgunn

1,417 posts

132 months

Wednesday 8th February 2017
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ATM said:
I've got some unused 265/35 Federal semi slicks. I might buy some 225/40 to match and give them a whirl.
If you use it on track with slick tyres, be careful of oiling - it has got an X51 baffled sump, at least, but make sure the oil is filled right to the top!

ATM

18,300 posts

220 months

Wednesday 8th February 2017
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bgunn said:
ATM said:
I've got some unused 265/35 Federal semi slicks. I might buy some 225/40 to match and give them a whirl.
If you use it on track with slick tyres, be careful of oiling - it has got an X51 baffled sump, at least, but make sure the oil is filled right to the top!
Is the little dash based electric gauge on start up reliable?

edc

9,237 posts

252 months

Wednesday 8th February 2017
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ATM said:
Is the little dash based electric gauge on start up reliable?
As long as you have a reference point and are flat then I've never used anything else in 5 years. One time it showed short but I was on a steep slope left to right biggrin

bgunn

1,417 posts

132 months

Wednesday 8th February 2017
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ATM said:
Is the little dash based electric gauge on start up reliable?
Works well for me, but I'd use the dipstick to be sure..

ATM

18,300 posts

220 months

Wednesday 8th February 2017
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bgunn said:
ATM said:
Is the little dash based electric gauge on start up reliable?
Works well for me, but I'd use the dipstick to be sure..
1990's porn stars like me dont want to get their hands dirty.

ooid

4,103 posts

101 months

Thursday 9th February 2017
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ATM said:
1990's porn stars like me dont want to get their hands dirty.
Just saw your post on the other topic about white blobs..My suggestion (not super scientific at all), do a 50 miles journey and check again both levels (coolant +oil).. Once the engine is cooled down, check coolant tank to see the colour and mixture. A super thin layer of oil is nothing to be scared of what I was told back in than, but if there is a bigger intermix pressure test needed. Heads or oil cooler first suspects. (fairly long journey needed to test this though)

Good luck!


Swine Enthusiast

312 posts

105 months

Tuesday 14th February 2017
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Hey guys, long time lurker and have been reading through this thread on my lunch breaks, amazed and excited that you can get some Pork for these prices - I'm pretty much sold on the idea so I went for a test drive over the weekend. First time driving a Boxster and was impressed, although not blow away (this is to do with the weather), the car seemed taught, well built.

To be fair it was the WORST day possible to test drive a mid-engined, RWD sports car as it was snowing, cold and wet everywhere. The car itself felt good but didn't get above 55-60mph / 4k rpm, hood up. Gear box was a little looser than I thought but good throw (it is a 16 year old car), clutch to was a little heavy but I have no frame of reference so could just be sports car heavy.

Nice car, seems taken care of, few points to consider though.

Pro's: £4250, 2.7, Recently serviced, only 5k miles in the last year, new pads all round, P Zero N rated tyres all round, ambers, hood working, been used by gentleman's wife barely in two years of ownership.

Con's: 104k miles, service history with Porsche Specialists up to 40k then basic services / intermittent servicing, radio doesn't work, no glove box, large scratch down on door, misty / cloudy plastic rear screen.

Would link the add but it has expired on Autotrader.

Would appreciate any inputs, thoughts, items to consider etc.

Cheers!

ATM

18,300 posts

220 months

Tuesday 14th February 2017
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Swine Enthusiast said:
Hey guys, long time lurker and have been reading through this thread on my lunch breaks, amazed and excited that you can get some Pork for these prices - I'm pretty much sold on the idea so I went for a test drive over the weekend. First time driving a Boxster and was impressed, although not blow away (this is to do with the weather), the car seemed taught, well built.

To be fair it was the WORST day possible to test drive a mid-engined, RWD sports car as it was snowing, cold and wet everywhere. The car itself felt good but didn't get above 55-60mph / 4k rpm, hood up. Gear box was a little looser than I thought but good throw (it is a 16 year old car), clutch to was a little heavy but I have no frame of reference so could just be sports car heavy.

Nice car, seems taken care of, few points to consider though.

Pro's: £4250, 2.7, Recently serviced, only 5k miles in the last year, new pads all round, P Zero N rated tyres all round, ambers, hood working, been used by gentleman's wife barely in two years of ownership.

Con's: 104k miles, service history with Porsche Specialists up to 40k then basic services / intermittent servicing, radio doesn't work, no glove box, large scratch down on door, misty / cloudy plastic rear screen.

Would link the add but it has expired on Autotrader.

Would appreciate any inputs, thoughts, items to consider etc.

Cheers!
At this price point you are always buying some problems or potential problems. If you think about those you will never buy one. If you are spending what you consider to be a lot for one of these at this end of the market then I would advise you not to buy one.

If however you are willing to spend 1500 - 2500 refreshing components that are past their best on top of the purchase price then these are a great buy.

I had one of these boxsters back in 2004. Since then I have had a few more Porsches but I have never found one with the same feel as this original car. Well up until I decided to buy a 1998 911 last week. These older cars have masses more character by way of the steering feel and the brake pedal and just the feeling you get of being part of the package rather than a spectator. BUT this only happens if the car is top notch as in the consumables are all working well.

Consumables on these are all suspension arms and bushes, shocks and mounts, tyres and brakes. I've driven a 2003 boxster recently where the brake pedal felt mushy which is wrong. It should be rock hard.

Then on top of the above there are the other potential items like rads, AC condensers, engine and clutch.

If you end up replacing all of the above the you are easily spending more than the purchase price and more.

Like I say at this end of the market you are taking a large punt. So I'd say buy one that you like rather than one you think will be solid. Most will throw up bills and if you are not genuinely a fan of the car then these bills will put an end to your relationship.

JS1500

579 posts

178 months

Wednesday 15th February 2017
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If you could live with a 2.5 I'd be give Performance Porsche (Klassiker911) a call about this...
http://www.performance-porsche.co.uk/blog/for-sale...

Swine Enthusiast

312 posts

105 months

Wednesday 15th February 2017
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Appreciate you taking the time to reply! I am more than happy to have some money aside to cover the major items so that shouldn't be an issue. Obviously, things like an IMS / Hartech Engine Rebuild might be a step too far but could be doable.

Has anyone taken warranties for these or is that not a possibility considering age?


Swine Enthusiast

312 posts

105 months

Wednesday 15th February 2017
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JS1500 said:
If you could live with a 2.5 I'd be give Performance Porsche (Klassiker911) a call about this...
http://www.performance-porsche.co.uk/blog/for-sale...
Cheers for the heads up! Looks tidy - is there much difference between 2.5 & 2.7? I can't imagine much in terms of performance?

Rosewood Red

857 posts

154 months

Wednesday 15th February 2017
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Swine Enthusiast said:
Cheers for the heads up! Looks tidy - is there much difference between 2.5 & 2.7? I can't imagine much in terms of performance?
From a 2.7 owner who has driven all variants, the 2.7 has no discernable performance advantage over a 2.5 in the real world. 3.2 on the other hand...

I have a thread in Readers Rides outlining costs. Take good note of ATM's post above. I spent just under £4k buying mine. I have spent £1.5k since buying in October, half of that being all new front suspension arms and springs (the latter was bad luck - pothole). The car's currently at a specialist having the rear arms and a couple of other niggly bits replaced and I'm expecting a bill of over £700. It'll be going back in next month for clutch, DMF, RMS, etc, and am not expecting much change from £1.5k. Once the AC is sorted out, I'll probably have spent purchase price, if not more, on maintenace.

On the face of it, all it needed was a clutch and some bushes. It's only when you start digging that you find dirt. Bear in mind, I have gone a little overboard and could have gotten away with only renewing a couple of front arms. But once I'm done, IMS aside, all the mechanical weak points will have been addressed.


Good luck!