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Patrick Bateman said:
http://www.boxa.net/forum/topic/74568-boxster-986s...
That must be quite rare. IMS bearing already replaced, rest of the car looking good as new (minus the gold wheels) and your engine oil looking like liquid glitter.
https://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/192350382508That must be quite rare. IMS bearing already replaced, rest of the car looking good as new (minus the gold wheels) and your engine oil looking like liquid glitter.
ATM said:
It's a good sign imho, for a 17 years old sports/performance car surviving that long, and being very unique. I mean, considering many modern cars today being engineered to survive max 150k.In europe/continent, many people change their cars as soon as it hits 100.000 km (in our condition, 60k miles). It's somehow on this side, we are expecting min 150k for a survival or even more!
What is not acceptable of course, Porsche A G was aware of the design flaws with these cars (and 996) and they kept producing them for nearly 10 years, without making any changes or re-call. I would be very pissed off, If pay big bang for a brand new 911 or boxster and end up crappy situation in a few years. Even if its under warranty, it's still a big headache and disappointment which has made me stopped for years not to get a brand new Porsche actually.
I think the main problem with the 986 is on paper they aren't powerful enough to justify the potential for big bills. The majority of people who want a sports car are going to want something faster. I personally didn't consider one due to this.
I ended up buying a 986 S as I planned to do an engine conversion to it which I feel would put right the lack of power. However once I drove the car standard for a bit I got it, the control weights are lovely, nicely designed and built, sounded good and 250bhp actually felt decent enough. It's a great overall package.
Once I started to work on it, you could really tell they are a proper piece of kit, the way it's all engineered is impressive. Like others have said, it's a mid engine 911 design wise so it's a proper sports car, not a lash up using the VAG parts bin. The chassis is capable of handling much more power. This is why I think they are a perfect candidate for an engine swap.
I think if Porsche marketed it as a '911 Lightweight' or a '911 Sport' or something and offered the range of 996 engines in it i'm convinced they'd be worth more than the '996 fat-arse model'. It all basically boils down to the name and the fact Porsche held it back on the engine front in my opinion.
I ended up buying a 986 S as I planned to do an engine conversion to it which I feel would put right the lack of power. However once I drove the car standard for a bit I got it, the control weights are lovely, nicely designed and built, sounded good and 250bhp actually felt decent enough. It's a great overall package.
Once I started to work on it, you could really tell they are a proper piece of kit, the way it's all engineered is impressive. Like others have said, it's a mid engine 911 design wise so it's a proper sports car, not a lash up using the VAG parts bin. The chassis is capable of handling much more power. This is why I think they are a perfect candidate for an engine swap.
I think if Porsche marketed it as a '911 Lightweight' or a '911 Sport' or something and offered the range of 996 engines in it i'm convinced they'd be worth more than the '996 fat-arse model'. It all basically boils down to the name and the fact Porsche held it back on the engine front in my opinion.
ooid said:
It's a good sign imho, for a 17 years old sports/performance car surviving that long, and being very unique. I mean, considering many modern cars today being engineered to survive max 150k.
In europe/continent, many people change their cars as soon as it hits 100.000 km (in our condition, 60k miles). It's somehow on this side, we are expecting min 150k for a survival or even more!
What is not acceptable of course, Porsche A G was aware of the design flaws with these cars (and 996) and they kept producing them for nearly 10 years, without making any changes or re-call. I would be very pissed off, If pay big bang for a brand new 911 or boxster and end up crappy situation in a few years. Even if its under warranty, it's still a big headache and disappointment which has made me stopped for years not to get a brand new Porsche actually.
Re the mileage on continent vs UK I think it is very much the other way round. On the continent they drive their cars for longer and further. It's in the UK whee there is a 100k stigma. In europe/continent, many people change their cars as soon as it hits 100.000 km (in our condition, 60k miles). It's somehow on this side, we are expecting min 150k for a survival or even more!
What is not acceptable of course, Porsche A G was aware of the design flaws with these cars (and 996) and they kept producing them for nearly 10 years, without making any changes or re-call. I would be very pissed off, If pay big bang for a brand new 911 or boxster and end up crappy situation in a few years. Even if its under warranty, it's still a big headache and disappointment which has made me stopped for years not to get a brand new Porsche actually.
edc said:
Re the mileage on continent vs UK I think it is very much the other way round. On the continent they drive their cars for longer and further. It's in the UK whee there is a 100k stigma.
hmm where about? I can only claim about my relatives/friends, who live in Germany (Stuttgart) and Barcelona (Spain)..Once they hit 100k kms, the car needs to go! anonymous said:
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True, never any positive changes. Somehow they produced m96/m97 for nearly 10 years, tweaking and making worse but they released DFI engines suddenly on late 2009 If I remember correctly? Massive upgrade and changes in a year and directly tweaking the weakest points this time, not to mention almost complete design of the oil supply. (Perhaps the IMS lawsuit, who knows?) Another positive note on 986..I've never seen any rust on my old one, or never even heard of it.
Escy said:
I think if Porsche marketed it as a '911 Lightweight' or a '911 Sport' or something and offered the range of 996 engines in it i'm convinced they'd be worth more than the '996 fat-arse model'. It all basically boils down to the name and the fact Porsche held it back on the engine front in my opinion.
You may have a point there. But of course 911s are neant to have a rear engine......except, Of course, the latest 911 GTE race car is actually mid engined!!Rosewood Red said:
Is the 987 hardtop the same as the 986?Mario149 said:
- quite possibly what you had a poster of when you were little
I actually had a poster of a 959 on my wall, but I had a silver Scalextric 911 with a whaletail that I loved. Hence when 996s reached their low point a few years back and I could afford one, I bought an Aerokitted silver one !A silver 911 with a big spoiler was what I wanted. A Boxster / Cayman didn't (couldn't) fulfil that brief.
Another cheapo 987 here. Only 5 mins from me too..
http://www.adgsevenoaks.co.uk/used-cars/7876015-po...
http://www.adgsevenoaks.co.uk/used-cars/7876015-po...
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You would like to think so, however going back to my earlier posts about my one, mine is same year with same miles, but a tiptronic and with no SH until I bought it (I've had it serviced at a specialist). Only got cheeky offers of over £1k less than that, only one 'enthusiast' showed an interest.ATM said:
£6,595 now
Auction was showing as cancelled for a while but its back now. Uniroyal rain sport tyres are an interesting choice. I've heard good things about them. Has anyone on here tried them?
I have Rainsport 3s all round on my 986, but don't really have a baseline to compare to as this is my first sports car. It had some borderline legal Continentals on the rear when I picked it up and was interesting well below the limit on the drive back on the waterlogged M1. Bear in mind the rear alignment was out too. The fronts were some legal but ancient Dunlops.Auction was showing as cancelled for a while but its back now. Uniroyal rain sport tyres are an interesting choice. I've heard good things about them. Has anyone on here tried them?
With that in mind, so far, I don't have any gripes. I'll probably try some Goodyear Eagle F1s next.
ATM said:
........ Uniroyal rain sport tyres are an interesting choice. I've heard good things about them. Has anyone on here tried them?
I use them as a "wet" on my 944 turbo race car in a race series that requires the use of road legal tyres and they are excellent. I did once get my "weather forecast" wrong just before a race and they were poor in the dry, they overheated and tread block felt as though it was "squirming", but I am talking about race situations and I am sure that's not relevant in normal road conditions.Whats the forum's thoughts about an early 2.5 Boxster used only a few weeks per year, say 2k miles tot? In particular i'm thinking as to reliability woes.
I'm thinking about getting one to keep abroad at my parent's place. It would get driven every 3 months or so and the rest of the time be stored away properly (dry, covered, and all the general storing precautions).
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