I've just bought some poverty Pork…

[Rosewood Red]

Guilty your honour

Re-reading my source suggests sports seats were a no cost option with extended leather. What is partial leather? Apparently that had to be optioned at the very least (if not full / extended) leather if sports seats were specified. Are there simply leather seats and nothing else or was there ever a non-leather spec? I have seen some specced with leather and suede / alcantara seats, but these tend to be uncommon...

[snotrag]

You can definitely have (leather!) sports seats without leather dash, my mate has it.

My car has the vinyl / suede seats as shown above and I prefer them to the regular non-sports type leather seen on most cars.

[NJH]

At least you guys are honest about the vinyl. For a long time (still ongoing actually) on the older cars many vendors referred to the basic spec vinyl/cloth mix as half leather.

[mini95]

My seats on my 98 Boxster are not full leather but the centres are not alcantara or similar they are a light grey cloth material.

Mine is pretty basic, no aircon, no centre console or leather anywhere by the looks of it. Probably all the better for it in some ways!

[snotrag]

mini95 said:

... pretty basic, no aircon, no centre console or leather anywhere by the looks of it. Probably all the better for it in some ways!

Same as mine then. I believe the correct was to describe it is "club sport"

[Scho]

ATM said:

I think this has been for sale for a while. Ad says full leather on dash and doors. We've discussed doors and I notice some stitching there. How do we know if the dash is?

31000 miles

£9,750


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/132047609031

Nice combo.

[Rosewood Red]

Right, so am (well my mechanic is...) in the middle of doing the front suspension arms. On my last trip before leaving it at the garage, I had a fight with a pothole and something didn't feel quite right afterwards. I suspected front spring. Mechanic said "Nah....won't be the spring".

Just received a call. I was right NSF.

Car has 115k. The thing is, the shocks are fine (if not a little worn at 115k), regardless, I can't really afford new shock absorbers all round right now. Can't seem to find a pair of genuine / OEM front springs much cheaper than a full set of -10mm H&R 'M030' springs available from the likes of ECP

The plan wasn't ever to lower the car, but long term, was considering Koni FSDs along with the 'M030'. Right now, as far as firefighting goes, I'm inclined to think 'M030s' all round maybe followed by shocks later down the line.

Was already having a bad day before this whole saga.

Edited by Rosewood Red on Wednesday 11th January 18:44

[Rosewood Red]

Presumably the supension's probably sagged a little with age mileage anyway.

I can get a pair of H&R (original height) springs for just under £100, vs £125 for 'M030' H&R.

The thought of getting the latter and only changing the fronts now did spring (no pun intended) to mind, but not sure that's one of my better ideas - does seem like a waste of labour if the rear shocks are coming off later down the line. But, my mild OCD tendancies sway me towards the original height H&Rs.

All fun and games eh.

[Rosewood Red]

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...

High miles, but sub £9k 996 C2 manual coupe. '98, so cable throttle and dual-row IMSB. Lose the wheels and the decals.

MOT history suggests it's been well cared for.

[Diesel Meister]

Ropey pix and high miles but you could make something of that, assuming you're ok with the colour (not my favourite shade for a 996 but pleasant enough). I agree regarding tints, decals and wheels - yuck! Bin the former, ebay the latter, add 17in twists on not-gougy-but-not-ste (TM) tyres and you're laughing. At least until you can save up enough to refurb / replace / upgrade anything else (suspension, rads; seats blah). Good potential project assuming its usable with just the cosmetics and not been abused / misrepresented - fun to hone that spec (if not quite as per PH's favourite 996 C4 courier wagon!)

[ooid]

MOT history shows, there was an oil leak on 95k, judging by the car is 165k now it was probably a minor RMS or even IMS could have probably been upgraded. usually bad RMS situations or similar can hold max. hold 4-5k without any treatment.

I would not expect miracles though, at the end of the day, it is an "open deck" engine post 160k so expect some serious worn items in the engine department.

[ooid]

I think this is a far better value for the car!




59k and 5.9k, you would probably enjoy this car without any hassle for the next few years. Then decide, if you want to keep it much longer drop a similar amount of money for upgrading most necessary part or sell it. (I can confirm as a 2.7 owner, 2.5 sounds more bad ass! )

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...

[DiscoColin]

ooid said:

I think this is a far better value for the car!




59k and 5.9k, you would probably enjoy this car without any hassle for the next few years. Then decide, if you want to keep it much longer drop a similar amount of money for upgrading most necessary part or sell it. (I can confirm as a 2.7 owner, 2.5 sounds more bad ass! )

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...

A little odd that it is described as a year 2000 2.5 though given that that was replaced by the 2.7 in 1999...?

It isn't cheap for a 2.5 either given that the shabbier end of the market has been below £4k for years (though not unfair either if all is good and it is indeed in as-described condition).

Edited by DiscoColin on Saturday 14th January 13:48

[ooid]

DiscoColin said:

A little odd that it is described as a year 2000 2.5 though given that that was replaced by the 2.7 in 1999...?

hmm the car seems to be registered in 2004. So it might be an import from Japan or Singapore, who knows? To be honest, it might be a very simple admin mistake, 5 years ago I've seen one example like this, 2000 made but 2.5 engine (the owner manual was showing late 1999 production but probably it was registered as 2000 and so on...) during 1999-2000 I think most 996 and 986 were a bit of mess in terms of records

If this car was made in Stuttgart, and mechanically crisp condition, I think it's a bargain. These first generations were produced in the same factory with 993 turbos, same engineers, technicians looked after them and we rarely see 2.5 986 issues. The highest milage I've seen so far was 180k in U.K. I think last year, still on original engine. Assuming one keeps a sports car for 10 years (60k average), that's a 3 generation(2 left!) car for 6k.

anonymous said:

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Absolutely!

[Rosewood Red]

I'm aurprised the earlier guards red 3.2 I posted is still for sale. 53k, lowered to £5,150, from ~£5.6k.

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...

Unless in reality it's a dog. Lack of pics aside, looks particularly good value against the black 2.5.

[edc]

Rosewood Red said:

I'm aurprised the earlier guards red 3.2 I posted is still for sale. 53k, lowered to £5,150, from ~£5.6k.

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...

Unless in reality it's a dog. Lack of pics aside, looks particularly good value against the black 2.5.

Short MOT and DIY servicing probably doesn't appeal to Joe Public. A more enthusiast type buyer would probably be more happy with the latter especially if they are competent themselves and can talk shop with the owner.

[DiscoColin]

anonymous said:

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Yes and no - if you sell it, the 911 tax by it's nature means that you get the extra spend back. Like it or not - a 911 will always be worth a tangible premium over an equivalent year/condition Boxster. Moreover - the market has pretty much spoken : for literally years now the lowest that a running 911 will ever be is around £9k and the lowest that a running Boxster can fall to is below £3k (though usually nearer 4). Consequently while you are absolutely right about the value in tidy 986s at purchase, if you are going for a long term acquisition that you are going to carry the ownership costs on regardless then the 996 does make sense. It is not actually that different mechanically and as a consequence costs a similar amount to own and with a higher retained value.

The one thing that I would add is that if you are buying either a 996 or 986, IMHO what you want is the earliest mechanically sound one possible. If they do become collectible further down the line I reckon that early manuals are likely to be the most in demand and that they are currently cheapest means that now really is likely to be _the_ opportunity to get in at the very bottom of the market. There is also the factor that anecdotally the earlier ones don't tend to generate a lot of engine failure stories now either (i.e. the ones that were going to fail did so years ago).

Edited by DiscoColin on Sunday 15th January 12:48

[lilwashu]

edc said:

Short MOT and DIY servicing probably doesn't appeal to Joe Public. A more enthusiast type buyer would probably be more happy with the latter especially if they are competent themselves and can talk shop with the owner.

I phoned up about this one, it has a very long hole in servicing (10+ years I think) by the previous owner and the current one has been driving it around for a few months with the engine light on, which put me off and contradicted "maintained regardless of cost". Owner seemed nice enough though.

[yajeed]

I did a little tidying in the garage this weekend and found what I assume are. Boxster wheels (17 inch).
The tyres are pretty much useless but they wheels are in good order.

Is there still a market for them? I assume I bought them at some point as a potential upgrade for the 16s on my 986s?

[ATM]

yajeed said:

I did a little tidying in the garage this weekend and found what I assume are. Boxster wheels (17 inch).
The tyres are pretty much useless but they wheels are in good order.

Is there still a market for them? I assume I bought them at some point as a potential upgrade for the 16s on my 986s?

I dont think you can fit 16 on the S.