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Which style wheels? There's a few 17s. I'd like the rarer of the two "twist" type.
My Box has been put into daily service again thanks to a broken Jaguar. Clicked over to 129k miles on the M62 this morning. Other than being very firm (coilovers) its working a treat.
Still needs to be noisier though.
My Box has been put into daily service again thanks to a broken Jaguar. Clicked over to 129k miles on the M62 this morning. Other than being very firm (coilovers) its working a treat.
Still needs to be noisier though.
snotrag said:
Which style wheels? There's a few 17s. I'd like the rarer of the two "twist" type.
My Box has been put into daily service again thanks to a broken Jaguar. Clicked over to 129k miles on the M62 this morning. Other than being very firm (coilovers) its working a treat.
Still needs to be noisier though.
They're certainly not twists - like this I think My Box has been put into daily service again thanks to a broken Jaguar. Clicked over to 129k miles on the M62 this morning. Other than being very firm (coilovers) its working a treat.
Still needs to be noisier though.
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I'm sure you're right about 16s. I've no idea - maybe a winter tyre plan.
They're certainly nothing to do with the 996t, so must have been Boxster related somehow.
anonymous said:
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You sir have an annoying habit of talking sense on this topic. I have the feeling that a reasonably sorted 996 will end up costing you £15-20k almost irrespective of where you start, unless you're prepared to tolerate intergalactic miles and/or spec oddities / insurance history. Still desirable but also feeling expensive even for a nice 996 C2 at that pirce. I reckown we'll look back and think "why didn't we all buy one..." when the prices follow the 993s / 964s (not suggesting they'll necessarily hit the in some case barmy highs we're currently seeing for the air-cooled / GT / RS stuff, but I think good examples of 996s will be fewer and further between as time passes and that history will look much more favourably on what is a fantastic driver's car).anonymous said:
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Yup. I struggle with the idea of paying more as well. Took the 986 gently around the block for its monthly constitutional yesterday and was reminded that, roof and a tiny bit of ultimate shove aside, it has most things I want from a car - musical, revvy engine; nice streering, great balance and transparent, communicative response; mechanical shift action with firm and well weighted pedals. It just hangs together so nicely and genuinely feels honed, even pootling along at a ripe old age of 17.5 years on suspension and brakes likely long past due a refresh. Yes, I'd prefer a coupe. Yes some rear cabin space would be handy from time to time. Yes, it would be nice to have more like 220-250bhp/ton rather than ~165bhp/ton. But to be honest, the 996 would have to be a special example / model to be an appreciably better car in terms of what I look for. Add in that the Box is less than half price for comparable condition cars and it's virtual no-brainer unless you happen to be unimaginatively dogmatic / stumble across a genuine 996 bargain.
Diesel Meister said:
mechanical shift action
I'm still disappointed with this. The gearshift is the single thing that's really not up to scratch. I've tried the short shift, I've tried the original levelr arm with the new bushes, I've got new cable ends - its just poor.Any ideas? I am not sure if I am expecting too much. I haven't felt any Box/911 shifter that fees 'good' .
snotrag said:
I'm still disappointed with this. The gearshift is the single thing that's really not up to scratch. I've tried the short shift, I've tried the original levelr arm with the new bushes, I've got new cable ends - its just poor.
Any ideas? I am not sure if I am expecting too much. I haven't felt any Box/911 shifter that fees 'good' .
What didn't you like about the shortshift (was it aftermarket version or OE)?Any ideas? I am not sure if I am expecting too much. I haven't felt any Box/911 shifter that fees 'good' .
What is it you actually don't like?
From my experience the shortshift is nicer than the original shift as it is obviously shorter but also the action is less damped so 'feels' more mechanical. Some complain the gate is too short so possibility to mis-shift.
On the flip side whilst the original shifter is quite long it foes allow you to select the right gear quite easily. I have a 550 with a factory shortshift now (albeit old and I'm sure a little worn, but with a new cable pack). This seems to combine the better aspects of both.
There is also the possibility to try an original 987.997 shifter and their shortshift version.
I find the shift quality on the 986 2.7 to be pretty sweet, even on my tired example. Slightly long of throw? Yes, but that doesn't appreciably affect the speed at which you can select a gear when "on it", it just perhaps a little out of synch with the pedals and steering in terms of weight / immediacy - no less precise ultimately and pretty good for a cable-shift (that on my AW11 is a mare - inconsistent and at time stickily obstructive. All part of the charm!).
I agre that a bit of fettling could optimise it more and aside from a judicious bit of general chassis / suspension stiffening / lightening it's the only bit of the car I'd bother much with for road use as diminishing returns apply, even for those of us here who love a tactile and satisfying shift. Ideally you want the box beneath the shifter, if not as close you as possible with as solid a link as possible. Then it's down to counterweights and the contents of the box shirley? Whatever, I find 986 / 996 shifts distinctly above average if not sublime in themselves.
I agre that a bit of fettling could optimise it more and aside from a judicious bit of general chassis / suspension stiffening / lightening it's the only bit of the car I'd bother much with for road use as diminishing returns apply, even for those of us here who love a tactile and satisfying shift. Ideally you want the box beneath the shifter, if not as close you as possible with as solid a link as possible. Then it's down to counterweights and the contents of the box shirley? Whatever, I find 986 / 996 shifts distinctly above average if not sublime in themselves.
BrotherMouzone said:
Does 987 3.2 have variable steering? If so, do you think 986 have better steering?
Do they both have 6-speed gearbox?
986/987 3.2, do they have the same risk regarding IMS (???) and bore scoring (low)?
Thanks!
Both 6 speed. Same IMS although some early 986S may have the dual row. Bore scoring is not an issue you need worry about. Do they both have 6-speed gearbox?
986/987 3.2, do they have the same risk regarding IMS (???) and bore scoring (low)?
Thanks!
Scho said:
My latest harebrained scheme:
1. Buy a povo box
2. Fit Ohlins
3. Fit buckets
4. Thrash
5. Waiting for the uplift in values to pay for the trackdays.
Any potential pitfalls?
Approved. Point 5 potentially optimistic given unfounded "not a 911" prejudice of the general public. Their loss!1. Buy a povo box
2. Fit Ohlins
3. Fit buckets
4. Thrash
5. Waiting for the uplift in values to pay for the trackdays.
Any potential pitfalls?
Scho said:
My latest harebrained scheme:
1. Buy a povo box
2. Fit Ohlins
3. Fit buckets
4. Thrash
5. Waiting for the uplift in values to pay for the trackdays.
Any potential pitfalls?
No different to what most others do.1. Buy a povo box
2. Fit Ohlins
3. Fit buckets
4. Thrash
5. Waiting for the uplift in values to pay for the trackdays.
Any potential pitfalls?
Problems being
2 - no Ohlins but if you just mean upgrade suspension to something else then there are still plenty of choices.
5 - is just speculative and asking for trouble.
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Yes, FSD are for the fast road. They just give a greater range of better damping. But, in theory there's nothing to stop them applying the same principle and having firmer damping at one end for the track. Whether they'd sell enough to kepp the same price or whether you even need the range on a track based car is a different matter.Gassing Station | Porsche General | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff