So, still smarting that I had the gall to ask just how long you've spent behind the wheel of some of the cars you profess to know so intimately then Rich ?

It's not a phrase I'm keen on, but I'll make an exception and use it this once.

"Get over it"

And now let's get back on topic shall we. Do please elucidate on your comments re the 996 RS being a "better" road car than the Gen 1 '7 GT3. I imagine you must have spent many hours behind the wheel of both cars to form a view that's totally at odds with the general concensus . . . . Do please tell, I for one, am desperate to know why Stuttgart made the Gen 1 '7 GT3 suspension such a retrograde step over the '6 RS in the suspension department.

I think thats obvious isnt it..its called progress..or is it to make the car more saleable to the Kings road cruiser's..Porsche have spent the last 40 years 'improving' the useability of their cars for the masses..ultimately making the older and more hardcore/mechanical/ste 911's depending on how you view it do nothing but increase in value as 'real' Porsche lovers search for old-skool integrity.There is no doubt a 997 turbo is far superior in performance to a 993tt..what do people actually hanker after?.The fun of the 996rs is that it needs driving and subsequently is very involving..as i said previously i would just buy a Gtr for 35k if i just wanted speed and technical genius.

Kevin, are you getting blind in your old age ? (or perhaps the suspension on the RS has scrambled your brains ?) Read what I typed, not what you think I typed.

And perhaps consider changing your username to fickle or turncoatkayc ? did you not previously own two 911s of the genre you referred to as "hardcore/mechanical/sh*te 911s" ? As I recall, you extolled their virtues whilst you owned them.

You're not wrong Slippy. Hearing KayC extolling virtues of any GT3 is laughable in context of his previous anti-GT3/pro TT comments many years back, despite all and sundry trying to tell him at the time, that there was more to life to than the quickest A-B car.

GT3/RS great track cars but rubbish on the road...they will not sniff a sorted evo or scooby on the road or offer the same level of useability..and to compare them 'on road ' with a tt is ridiculous.The reason GT3RS's are getting cheaper is because no-one knows what the fuss is all about...well made? no..super quick?..no..comfortable? no...rare?..no..practical?..no...Good residuals?..no..etc.

BTW, nice garage AL

Nice to have you back Kevin. I notice you've neatly sidestepped your other previous comments regarding rarity, build, residuals etc etc.

Kayc, the acceptable face of trolling on the PH Porsche forum

I think thats obvious isnt it..its called progress..or is it to make the car more saleable to the Kings road cruiser's..

I did drive mine as a semi daily, and it can be done, buts it's not exactly suitable for the role. I think some of you need to join the rest of us back on planet earth, where lowered 6 GT3s aren't considered to be manageable compliant DDs, and a 7 RS is a luxobarge cruiser for doing long distances and for when you want your hearing to remain active after spending half an hour behind the wheel. Hero isn't superlative enough to describe some of you on here.

I am a serial lurker on here but feel I have to tell of my experiences with gt3s as I have owned a few, all from new before they have been messed about with multiple owners.
My first one was a 996 mk1 cs - it was a great car, really nice engine. In my ownership I had a few small reliability issues.
After having the suspension set up it handled nicely although it still understeered a little. I did find the car underbraked and it is the only Porsche I have ever owned where I have warped the discs.
My 2nd was a 996 mk2 cs. Porsche improved the engine, the gearbox and the brakes, in theory it should have been a much better car but it just wasn't in my opinion. Even after having the suspension set up it understeered more than the mk1 . I also missed the character of the single mass flywheel. I was dissaponted with this car and sold it after only 2000 miles.
Sometimes a car is more than the sum of all it's parts and to me the 996rs which followed is exactly that. For me it is the most special road Porsche I have owned, with the standard suspension set up properly on cups it is a case of if you get the front end in the back will follow, and with such feel. Ok it does move about a bit on the road, but this almost makes it more of an event to drive on the road.
I was worried about selling the 996 to get a 997rs and didn't even consider the gen1, however with all the talk of the gen 2 being such an amazing car I decided to take the plunge and order one, only thing was I was worried I might not like it as much as the 996 so kept it, thinking I would sell the car I liked the least.
There is no doubt the 997 gen2 is a better road car, for all those who think it is too firm to drive fast on bumpy roads - they are probably just not driving fast enough! This car almost flies over them. Also the stability at high speed on say , motorways is amazing. The truth is that the 2 cars are poles apart in character, I would almost sum it up as saying the 996 rs is a track car you can drive on the road, where the 997rs gen 2 is a road car you can drive on the track. To my mind there is not much in it speedwise on track but for me you feel more connected in the 996, it feels lighter,more adjustible in bends. The 997 does understeer more.
I love both these cars for different reasons - they are both very special cars, but to my mind a car like the 996rs will never be made again. I have had it now for 8 years and for me it's a keeper