Picking up a 991 today for a ten day test

[Phooey]

I really like that Lime Gold

[RDMcG]

Phooey said:

I really like that Lime Gold

I think its horrible, but I am in a minority. So far , since I picked it up, I would say 15 people have commented positively on the colour...shows mow much I know.

[Manks]

Phooey said:

I really like that Lime Gold

These photos don't do it justice IMHO. In the metal it looks greener.

[SFO]

it looks great with the -20mm Sports PASM

[Phooey]

Manks said:

These photos don't do it justice IMHO. In the metal it looks greener.

I saw it in the flesh at the OPC last week. The car was outside, and looked fab. I agree, the pics don't do it any justice.

[Mermaid]

Phooey said:

I really like that Lime Gold

Can look good.

Interesting to see if OPC's mark down the car when trading in.

[RDMcG]

Mermaid said:

Can look good.

Interesting to see if OPC's mark down the car when trading in.

I hear that lime gold is popular here. Pic quality or not, does not do it for me. Evidently I have bad taste since everyone else loves it. I have now seen it in all light conditions, and still leaves me cold. To me, the car looks better in white.

[Manks]

RDMcG said:

I hear that lime gold is popular here. Pic quality or not, does not do it for me. Evidently I have bad taste since everyone else loves it. I have now seen it in all light conditions, and still leaves me cold. To me, the car looks better in white.

I agree! Here's a pic of mine.

Looks quite good dirty too.

[MadMark911]

RDMcG said:

I hear that lime gold is popular here. Pic quality or not, does not do it for me. Evidently I have bad taste since everyone else loves it. I have now seen it in all light conditions, and still leaves me cold. To me, the car looks better in white.

Agreed - yuk!

I saw one in metallic black a couple of weeks ago and that was lovely and so different to all the white / red one's I've seen so far!

[RDMcG]

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Its at the low speeds that the difference is notable. I think the issue is true for a lot of new cars....certainly the current M generation of BMWs is very different from what I drove 20 years ago for example.

There will always be a market for sharper edged cars,but I suspect that its a lot smaller than one for cars that are more approachable. In any case,this car is very quick and has superb cornering and braking. If you look at track times its very impressive. Every day I drive it, I like it more.

Its a car that takes a bit of time to really get for a performance driver who judges cars by track performance ,but not for normal people

Something like an RS rattles at idle,is noisy and a bit odd for people who have never been in one. I have neighbours who think the car is madness (not envy at all, just incomprehension). With the 991,the same people love it.

Its just impossible to get the balance perfect,I fear. Howevern this is the first of its generation,not the last. You may recall that the first 996s were not greeted with open arms by 993 drivers

[Manks]

anonymous said:

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Have you driven a 991?

[Tony 1234]

Manks said:

anonymous said:

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Have you driven a 991?

+1

[SFO]

anonymous said:

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base 991 C2 is what you need, no PASM, no PSE, no PDCC, no PTV, no 20" wheels. I would only add Sport Chrono and wheel spacers.

[Mermaid]

anonymous said:

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It will not be long before the 997 will be the new 964.

[SFO]

anonymous said:

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diff requires PASM, as does sports suspension (this needs 20" wheels) .. but diff and sports suspension merely makes the car less 'exciting'

[ROK]

The water-cooled 911s will NEVER be appreciated in the same vein as the air-cooled 911s with one of the biggest reasons being they simply made MANY, MANY, MANY more.

The only exceptions are the Mezger powered models. In particular, the GTX series.

[RDMcG]

ROK said:

The water-cooled 911s will NEVER be appreciated in the same vein as the air-cooled 911s with one of the biggest reasons being they simply made MANY, MANY, MANY more.

The only exceptions are the Mezger powered models. In particular, the GTX series.

I agree with that. I would think that the 996RS and the 997 4.0 would win in the rarity stakes.

[nsm3]

Tony 1234 said:

Manks said:

anonymous said:

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Have you driven a 991?

+1

Why bother, you may as well have the looks of the 997 to go with the drive?

I agree the 991 looks better (in side profile at least), but not having driven one I am assuming it will be better?

[RDMcG]

nsm3 said:

Tony 1234 said:

Manks said:

anonymous said:

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Have you driven a 991?

+1

Why bother, you may as well have the looks of the 997 to go with the drive?

I agree the 991 looks better (in side profile at least), but not having driven one I am assuming it will be better?

The problem lies with the word "better". Having driven just about every 997 except the GT2s and the RS 4.0 as well as the 991 my sense to date is that the 991 is "better for more people"but not necessarily better for people who specifically like the handling characteristics of the 997.

I like it a lot while recognizing that is is a rethink of the handling characteristics of the 911 rather than a linear improvement. People who had never driven a 911 before would love it I think. However,we often work to get good at driving a certain platform like the 996/997 and just as we have it mastered, something completely different shows up its a challenge to reset.

There are very valid viewpoints on the 991 with different conclusions. This thread is just one person's view, and my biases are no better or well reasoned than those of others

[Lordglenmorangie]

Lordglenmorangie said:

I have to agree.

I have no doubt the hearse that takes me to the Crem will be a auto but it won't matter to me as a passenger

I see that Lewis Hamilton has insisted his new road car has a manual gear box