964 RS at Auction

[LaurasOtherHalf]

ravon said:

Mine is the lesser spotted left hand drive RS with power steering !
I admit to being influenced by you knowledgeable RS owners, I'm mending my ways, my car is currently at 9M, being converted back to a more standard single throttle arrangement, "sports cams" instead of "race cams", and my old standard exhaust system with it's re-packable Techcraft silencer. So open the engine cover and it will look standard. Hope you approve, as this is not a low cost option ?

We chatted last year over the phone about such knowledgeable RS experts last year if I remember correctly sounds like some great work being done on the car, hopefully you'll have it sorted out in time to enjoy the rest of the summer!

[pork911]

daily beater for someone http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3949533.htm

[mudy]

This car makes me feel sad - I'd love to have the money to buy it and rag the balls off it day in and day out till the panels creaked and the engine cried out for forgiveness then refurb it and do it all again!

Sadly it will be bought and stuck in some vacumn-packed rich man's wk cave

Edited by mudy on Friday 1st June 17:27

[Wild Card 911]

I actually think it is amazing that in all the years that the 964RS has been a bargain trackday car, there have been one or two hidden away, not being used for what they were intended. Thats good, and should stay that way.

With probably the typical 80% (1700 cars) still in existence, there are enough avaliable so that the true enthusiasts can continue to enjoy them. At 10-15K to rebuild the motor, the cars can still be driven to the full. The advantage of the current value of the cars is that there will be more properly maintained examples amongst the fold.

The bargain track day status has surely been taken over by first generation 996 GT3´s. Times move on, and that´s a good thing too.

[Paul Dishman]

bridey0 said:

ras62 said:

Good call, I cant see when the engine was replaced why the number would be removed, a stupid thing to do imo. It will not make any difference performance wise but together with a non standard g/box and wheels etc the value is thousands down on a similar milage car.

I recon the estimate of high 20's as already mentioned on this thread is the right price for that car.

Sold for £53,500

[ras62]

Big money for that particular car, 10k above my own guestimate. However the market sets the price shocking as it may be. It will be interesting to see if it comes to market again soon.

[bridey0]

Paul Dishman said:

Sold for £53,500

If it was the one I thought it was then thats madness but maybe it was a pukka one that checked out.

[Paul Dishman]

bridey0 said:

Paul Dishman said:

Sold for £53,500

If it was the one I thought it was then thats madness but maybe it was a pukka one that checked out.

Did you not ask for Peter Morgan's report? Its a RS shell, but not engine or gearbox.Engine numbers removed. Non mag wheels.

John Glynn was trying to sell a year or so back; the details were on his blog, but had disappeared the last time I looked

[bridey0]

Paul Dishman said:

Did you not ask for Peter Morgan's report? Its a RS shell, but not engine or gearbox.Engine numbers removed. Non mag wheels.

John Glynn was trying to sell a year or so back; the details were on his blog, but had disappeared the last time I looked

Then it is the ringer then.
John emailed me about that car b4 it was advertised then it was advertised at 'Moonz Motorhomes' in Essex. I went in person and saw it then got the numbers confirmed.
Some poor barstewards got a dud

[ras62]

I can't see that whoever purchased this car did not first look at the report supplied by the auction in which case they knew exactly what they were buying.

[Wild Card 911]

I do think you are being way too cynical about this car..........

Wild Card 911 said:

But seriously, I think the Bilstein provenance could add quite a bit of value to this car. Another one that Walter drove, maybe?

According to the auction website description - this RS did in fact see some time with Walter, and I bet that isn´t the only story it has to tell.
Motor casings, gearboxes and mags can be bought and refurbished - but you can´t get much provenance out of low mileage garage hermit.
Stephen

[bridey0]

Wild Card 911 said:

According to the auction website description - this RS did in fact see some time with Walter, and I bet that isn´t the only story it has to tell.
Motor casings, gearboxes and mags can be bought and refurbished - but
you can´t get much provenance out of low mileage garage hermit.
Stephen

I had it confirmed as an RS shell and a C2 engine months ago, read the start of this thread. I also spoke with John Glynn about the car b4 it hit the mkt and John said he knew little about the car other than it was awesome to drive. The numbers were confirmed by an authority on these things. Sad but true

Edited by bridey0 on Monday 4th June 18:09

[Wild Card 911]

Well if this RS (seam welded) shell still sports an aluminium hood, lightweight glass, aluminium RS spec hubs, RS brakes, RS springs, Bilsteins(!), adjustable stabis, uprated rubber and ball joints, RS hydraulic brake servo, that nifty little telltale battery cutout switch and possibly one of the rare original RS steering wheels ....and really does drive that good, it might well be worth the entry fee!

However the longer (C2) rear axle ratio combined with (RS) 140 kilo weight saving and the 290 hp will make it terribly difficult to stay behind the authentic matching numbers RS in front :-)

I haven´t seen the car or read the report on it, so maybe is it just the RS shell......

[bridey0]

Wild Card 911 said:

Well if this RS (seam welded) shell still sports an aluminium hood, lightweight glass, aluminium RS spec hubs, RS brakes, RS springs, Bilsteins(!), adjustable stabis, uprated rubber and ball joints, RS hydraulic brake servo, that nifty little telltale battery cutout switch and possibly one of the rare original RS steering wheels ....and really does drive that good, it might well be worth the entry fee!

However the longer (C2) rear axle ratio combined with (RS) 140 kilo weight saving and the 290 hp will make it terribly difficult to stay behind the authentic matching numbers RS in front :-)

I haven´t seen the car or read the report on it, so maybe is it just the RS shell......

That it is and actually so what as long as the new owner is happy with it.
Meanwhile this caught my eye

http://www.tradeporsche.com/DisplayCar.aspx?IDCar=...

[Wild Card 911]

"Enquiries welcolme ( however,no test pilots or travelling comedians please)"

That one will a job to shift.

[bridey0]

Wild Card 911 said:

"Enquiries welcolme ( however,no test pilots or travelling comedians please)"

That one will a job to shift.

Doesn't exactly encourage enquiries does it

[kitesurfer2]

Presumably this car has spent many of it's miles pounding round a Japanese cicuit?
Seems like a reasonable price compared to the auction one.
What sort of price differential is there between Lightweight and Touring models?

[blackmamba]

The red "ex Japan Corporate Events" car is very well known. When it was last for sale there were a few key parts missing (wheels, bonnet) and it had lots of poor body work repairs. Having said that, if the engine, box and chassis are straight then it looks good value as the other items could eventually be found and the bodywork repainted to a good standard. That 911 Classic have been looking after it doesn't fill me with confidence though.

Good project for someone.

[bridey0]

I'm sure u can find a Straight 'tick all the bixes' RS for mid 50's so I'd leave that alone based on what u just said.
Always makes me wonder when a specialist car Like that isn't advertised on PH's

Edited by bridey0 on Tuesday 5th June 19:20

[Gulf911]

A more expensive one here

http://www.jzmporsche.com/porsche-LHD-964-RS-for-s...