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911Viking

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232 posts

32 months

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Thursday 24th May 2012 quote quote all
Went to Bruntingthorpe today with Nine Excellence testing new IC's on my 9E 25. We hit 204 - 205 mph (GPS) again and again, despite a little head wind and sunny 24 - 25c. Best run was 206.2 mph (GPS) and 0 - 186 mph on 25 sec flat. The run off area was blocked off all day with trucks, so had to brake a little early to be able to make the first right turn.

During afternoon there were a few race bikes to play with, had great fun trashing them all down the straight. The bike riders looked a little unhappy when being flashed to move over at 180 - 185 mph biglaugh

Ken will probably add a little more details and George will add photos/videos from today.

Phooey

6,104 posts

57 months

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Friday 25th May 2012 quote quote all
206 = clap

I see you chaps use Bruntingthorpe regularly. Out of interest, how does one gain permission to use Brunty? I'm local (20-30 mins) and would love to come down with the C63 and test the factory de-limit (Drivers Package). Happy to chip in some coin with you guy's if you fancy using me as a guinea pig hehe


911Viking

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232 posts

32 months

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Friday 25th May 2012 quote quote all
Phooey said:
206 = clap

I see you chaps use Bruntingthorpe regularly. Out of interest, how does one gain permission to use Brunty? I'm local (20-30 mins) and would love to come down with the C63 and test the factory de-limit (Drivers Package). Happy to chip in some coin with you guy's if you fancy using me as a guinea pig hehe
Cheers buddy... I am little further away, more like 5 - 6 hours which include a tunnel ride curse

I can recommend you to make contact with Craig who runs Vmax200.com and intro yourself. Craig runs a few Saturday events during the year and invite a broad variety exotics and fast cars. Its a great day out with a cool group of petrol heads racing each other for fun under safe circumstances.

In addition, Nine Excellence now and then test customer cars on week days (like my car yesterday). Not sure how they organize access, but try and contact Ken from Nine Excellence.

If you like to test yourself and your car against M3/5/6, AMG, Ferrari, Lambo, Porsche Audi etc., Vmax200 days would probably be perfect for you. The Nine Excellence test days are with very fast Porsches, where you probably would have a hard time with a standard AMG hehe

Cheers,
HH

911Viking

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232 posts

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Friday 25th May 2012 quote quote all
Just refilled my little 9E 25 toy, amazingly she gave me just under 10 km/l when driving back last night. Cruised at about 90 mph for 495 km (310 miles) and just filled 50 L on her. Porsches are amazing cars, doing 30+ runs over 200 mph on the track and cruise back home doing 10 km/l, I am speechless cool

Carl_Docklands

3,327 posts

150 months

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Friday 25th May 2012 quote quote all
911Viking said:
Just refilled my little 9E 25 toy, amazingly she gave me just under 10 km/l when driving back last night. Cruised at about 90 mph for 495 km (310 miles) and just filled 50 L on her. Porsches are amazing cars, doing 30+ runs over 200 mph on the track and cruise back home doing 10 km/l, I am speechless cool
Looking forward to the pictures bow
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996ttalot

1,855 posts

63 months

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Saturday 26th May 2012 quote quote all
Phooey said:
206 = clap

I see you chaps use Bruntingthorpe regularly. Out of interest, how does one gain permission to use Brunty? I'm local (20-30 mins) and would love to come down with the C63 and test the factory de-limit (Drivers Package). Happy to chip in some coin with you guy's if you fancy using me as a guinea pig hehe
You can ring and ask Jim or Graham on the gate. It is better that you go with others because during the week whilst it is quiet most of the times, it really does help having someone else to look out for traffic etc. There is the full circuit and a shorter version that joins on to the main circuit which can be an issue at high speeds.

We are there pretty regularly at the moment and will be quite a lot next month testing new 997 packages. Drop me a message and we can organise something.

Ken

IMI A

3,308 posts

89 months

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Sunday 27th May 2012 quote quote all
996ttalot said:
You can ring and ask Jim or Graham on the gate. It is better that you go with others because during the week whilst it is quiet most of the times, it really does help having someone else to look out for traffic etc. There is the full circuit and a shorter version that joins on to the main circuit which can be an issue at high speeds.

We are there pretty regularly at the moment and will be quite a lot next month testing new 997 packages. Drop me a message and we can organise something.

Ken
Ken, what are the new 997 packages in terms of goals you've set yourself?

KR

Imi

996ttalot

1,855 posts

63 months

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Sunday 27th May 2012 quote quote all
IMI A said:
996ttalot said:
You can ring and ask Jim or Graham on the gate. It is better that you go with others because during the week whilst it is quiet most of the times, it really does help having someone else to look out for traffic etc. There is the full circuit and a shorter version that joins on to the main circuit which can be an issue at high speeds.

We are there pretty regularly at the moment and will be quite a lot next month testing new 997 packages. Drop me a message and we can organise something.

Ken
Ken, what are the new 997 packages in terms of goals you've set yourself?

KR

Imi
Several goals actually. All with the same methodology as we do on the 996 turbos - real world performance backed by proper testing results.

1. To have an effective simple upgrade without changing the VTGs - so just remap + y-pipe replacement + intercoolers - performance to be in the region of 540-550hp backed up by 0-300kph times

2. VTG hybrids (gen 1 based VTG) - remap, y-pipe, IPD, TB and intercoolers - performance to be in the region of 580-640 (quite a wide range dependant on boost, backed up by 0-320kph times

3. VTG hybrids (gen 2 based VTG) - package being worked on, but moving towards 600-650hp range performance, backed up by 0-320kph times

4. Non VTG - we already have these packages right up to extreme high hp.

5. PDK upgrade - currently being worked on in terms of increasing the strength of the box

6. Tiptronic upgrade - Hold more power


Status

1. Available

2. Available and being fitted to test car in next 4 weeks - Our VTG Hybrids are different to what is available on the market - the issue with VTG is heat.

- One resolution is to increase the VTG Housing (turbine) size - larger the VTG housing the better at heat control. However issue is cost - you need to start with the VTGs that are in the 997GT2RS, and you cannot buy the housing either from Porsche or direct from manufacturer. So the cost goes up because you need to buy these turbos first and they are over £2k each.
- Our resolution is to flow more, but run less boost. So we have a hybrid VTG completed, that flows 5 lbs more per turbo than those on the GT2RS (620ps) with standard VTG housing. The GT2RS runs at up to 1.6 bar, so we are planning to run at 1.2 bar. Clearly we can run higher for example in sport mode and so on.
- package is being run in the next few weeks.

3. Hybrid not completed yet, but spec'd with our turbo builder already. Not far away.

4. Easy solution, just dump the VTGs and we can provide whatever level of power is required. For example the 9E25 package will work straight on to a 997 turbo

5. The nightmare for all tuners at the moment. You can put in a 1000hp engine+turbo package and it will still run no faster than a package at the 600hp engine+turbo package - PDK reduces power automatically on slip.

6. Available - both hardware and software solution.

Engine builds for gen 1 and gt2rs are already available including increased capacity.

997 tuning is more expensive than 996 tuning - as always the newer the model the more that cost is for tuning. We will look at whether that is justified.

crisisjez

8,643 posts

93 months

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Sunday 27th May 2012 quote quote all
911Viking said:
Just refilled my little 9E 25 toy, amazingly she gave me just under 10 km/l when driving back last night. Cruised at about 90 mph for 495 km (310 miles) and just filled 50 L on her. Porsches are amazing cars, doing 30+ runs over 200 mph on the track and cruise back home doing 10 km/l, I am speechless cool
MPG Dudesmile

996ttalot

1,855 posts

63 months

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Sunday 27th May 2012 quote quote all
Fitted a gopro to the rear of the car....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1U5Rxnz7uNg

roll on video to follow

911Viking

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232 posts

32 months

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Sunday 27th May 2012 quote quote all
crisisjez said:
MPG Dudesmile
Buddy, We moved to metric a while back, mpg is ancient... 10km/l is damn good for a high power car. Actually a little sad when I think about, it's better than any of my other cars can do ;-(

996ttalot

1,855 posts

63 months

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Sunday 27th May 2012 quote quote all
911Viking said:
crisisjez said:
MPG Dudesmile
Buddy, We moved to metric a while back, mpg is ancient... 10km/l is damn good for a high power car. Actually a little sad when I think about, it's better than any of my other cars can do ;-(
High performance whilst kind to the environment laugh

crisisjez

8,643 posts

93 months

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Sunday 27th May 2012 quote quote all
Well done anywaysmile
Ken sorry you missed out on the choc ices.......

996ttalot

1,855 posts

63 months

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Sunday 27th May 2012 quote quote all
crisisjez said:
Well done anywaysmile
Ken sorry you missed out on the choc ices.......
smashsmashsmash yes I heard about those Jez, always seems to happen when I am away from the shop. Call me before Thur as I am about to hit the sun.

crisisjez

8,643 posts

93 months

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Sunday 27th May 2012 quote quote all
996ttalot said:
smashsmashsmash yes I heard about those Jez, always seems to happen when I am away from the shop. Call me before Thur as I am about to hit the sun.
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996ttalot

1,855 posts

63 months

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Sunday 27th May 2012 quote quote all
Roll on video of a 9E tuned (around 520-mark) 996 Turbo S against our 9E25 car. The 996 Turbo S hit 189gps and is a quick car, but you can see the difference...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJdSVrzTOdQ&fea...


ZeroH

2,585 posts

77 months

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Sunday 27th May 2012 quote quote all
996ttalot said:
Roll on video of a 9E tuned (around 520-mark) 996 Turbo S against our 9E25 car. The 996 Turbo S hit 189gps and is a quick car, but you can see the difference...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJdSVrzTOdQ&fea...

Having experienced it first hand, I gotta say, the speed at which those turbos spool is incredible... as a result its a total roll-on monster !

graemel

5,049 posts

105 months

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Sunday 27th May 2012 quote quote all
996ttalot said:
Roll on video of a 9E tuned (around 520-mark) 996 Turbo S against our 9E25 car. The 996 Turbo S hit 189gps and is a quick car, but you can see the difference...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJdSVrzTOdQ&fea...

that is incredible thumbup

kencom

75 posts

55 months

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Sunday 27th May 2012 quote quote all
My lord!

That is a big difference.

Must resist...........

DrMekon

2,485 posts

104 months

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Monday 28th May 2012 quote quote all
996ttalot said:
Fitted a gopro to the rear of the car....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1U5Rxnz7uNg

roll on video to follow
I was waiting for the camera angle to tilt and to pass through the clouds shortly after. Very impressive.
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