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miroku
Original Poster
57 posts
22 months
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Hi, looking to the PH massive for some advice.
I am thinking of changing my Boxster 2.7 987 for a Gen 2 2.9. Question is, is there much of a difference between the two? Apart from the obvious cc. Look forward to hearing of your experiences.
Thanks
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Carl_Docklands
2,040 posts
131 months
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Answer depends on spec of the car as the drive and feel can be widely affected.
Eg. I spenced mine with LSD, pasm, exhaust., chrono.
I think the 2.9 box/cayman was a recession special probably never to be repeated. In summer weather I found a big gulf in track performance, not much in it for straight line speed. The 19 inch wheels, pasm and LSD are laugh out loud funny to push to the limit. Most drivers will be unable to find it.
Interior again can either be a major step up or a minor upgrade depending on spec.
I would get into a pdk 2.9 with sports chrono to whet your appetite and go from there. Pse is a must, you will not forget the sound of the 2.9 bouncing off the rev limiter with Pse.
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cmoose
18,625 posts
98 months
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I'd say PDK+2.9 is a bad idea. I'm no power w  e, but PDK tends to undermine the relatively modest zip the 2.9 offers. With a manual, you'll be balls deep enjoying the gearchange and throttle response and downshifts. With PDK, you're just flicking buttons and waiting for the bloody thing to build speed. If you're on a Turbo S, it's different as you're hanging on for dear life. Not so in a 2.9. - it's all about the subtleties, feeback and nuance. Which evaporate with PDK - on the transmission side, anyway. It's just flick-ping, flick-ping, flick-ping. Had a 2.9 PDK Cayman for a week and didn't bother driving it except for functional transport after the first day.
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Carl_Docklands
2,040 posts
131 months
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You were not doing it right moosey.
Peak power out of these fizzy engines is between 4500 and 6500, you just can't enjoy it as much with a stick. They are so much fun to work with a pdk box but - the car needs to be nicley optioned.
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cmoose
18,625 posts
98 months
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We're not goign to agree on any of this. Keeping a small revvy engine like that zinging with a manual box is exactly where the fun is. And it has such a nice manual box, flicking switches is such a sensory wasteland by comparison.
And I'd have mine with as few options as possible. Simple, pure and analogue (and light) as possible. Add buckets and some KW clucbsports (or similar) and that would be a Porsche for life. If I had to have PDK, I think I'd need something new to obsess about other than cars.
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miroku
Original Poster
57 posts
22 months
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Thanks for the comments so far. I guess I need to try a few and see. Must admit I have always favoured manual, however, be fun trying a few out.
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nickfrog
2,145 posts
86 months
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It's very sweet compared to the 2.7, it feels smoother and more free-reving AND it only comes with a 6-speeder (in manual form) which is a vast improvement on the old 5-speeder. The perfect combination really.
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uktrailmonster
4,406 posts
69 months
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cmoose said: We're not goign to agree on any of this. Keeping a small revvy engine like that zinging with a manual box is exactly where the fun is. And it has such a nice manual box, flicking switches is such a sensory wasteland by comparison.
And I'd have mine with as few options as possible. Simple, pure and analogue (and light) as possible. Add buckets and some KW clucbsports (or similar) and that would be a Porsche for life. If I had to have PDK, I think I'd need something new to obsess about other than cars. You can make it zing with PDK too (using manual paddles), just a different driving experience. On certain twisty roads it's quite fun machine gunning shifts with PDK, but I really like the manual 6 speed on these cars too and that's probably what I would choose on a car like this. Also agree on minimising the options. You can add so much totally unnecessary s te to these things.
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cmoose
18,625 posts
98 months
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You can of course make it zing with paddles. What you do is flick a switch, which takes about a third of a second. And that's it! Far too easy and so little fun compared to the manual, in which the whole process of braking and downshifting is one big bundle of sensory, fluid joy. With PDK you just stamp on the anchors and ping the paddles a couple of times and the car is the one having all the fun, you're just sitting there as an observer. Meh.
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uktrailmonster
4,406 posts
69 months
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cmoose said: You can of course make it zing with paddles. What you do is flick a switch, which takes about a third of a second. And that's it! Far too easy and so little fun compared to the manual, in which the whole process of braking and downshifting is one big bundle of sensory, fluid joy. With PDK you just stamp on the anchors and ping the paddles a couple of times and the car is the one having all the fun, you're just sitting there as an observer. Meh. Just been for a blast in my old '82 SC and sometimes wish that had PDK! The 915 box really is a love/hate relationship. You have to decide what gear you're going to be in about half an hour before you reach the next corner. We soon forget how spoilt we are with modern manual shifts which are light years quicker. It takes me ages to adjust to the slow shift timings on the old cars, but it is quite rewarding when you get it right. My 996 is much quicker on shifting alone and PDK simply moves things on yet again. But I digress, a manual Boxster 2.9 is great to throw around the back lanes.
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