At last I've bought a 993 however...

At last I've bought a 993 however...

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davek_964

8,832 posts

176 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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Solarized said:
HAHA!

Yeah the site's an ideal reference point.

I wish I had some of those technical skills!

Took me 5 mins of staring blankly at the engine bay before I finally spotted where the dipstick was!

I'm learning though..
rolleyes
If it's anything like the 964 (which I guess it is) - finding the dipstick is only half the problem. Reading it is a lot harder! I used to rely on the engine oil level on the dash.

Solarized

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436 posts

142 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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Absolutely! I'm glad it's not just me that thinks that.

There's a twisty bit on the dipstick and at first I thought it had no oil on it - cue panic number 6 - then I pressed some kitchen roll against the dipstick and noted a slight oil overfill...the car was idling and fully up to temp (on a flat surface) at the time.

From memory my last air cooled pork had a dipstick inside where the oil goes.

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

197 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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Solarized said:
From memory my last air cooled pork had a dipstick inside where the oil goes.
I sometimes wonder how many old 911s are driving round with more than one dipstick in the oil tank!

Solarized

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436 posts

142 months

Thursday 19th July 2012
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Hi all.

Update ;

After some more research I discovered that my car is subject to a recall campaign for a new wiring loom and also a rubber thingy for the doors. It's with Porsche just now. They suspect that this may be causing the problem although they also said it could be a coil pack. The car is due to be inspected tomorrow morning to see if it qualifies for the recall work.

I wonder if they'd give me a nice courtesy car? Hmmmm.

This recall work shouldn't cost me anything however the OPC are charging £65 per hour labour on these cars which I think is quite good.

Pickled Piper

6,345 posts

236 months

Thursday 19th July 2012
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Hi Solarized.

The wiring loom recall is well know and many people have had it done. Can you let us know what the rubber thingy on the door recall is? I have never heard of that one before.

pp

Solarized

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436 posts

142 months

Thursday 19th July 2012
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Will do PP.

supersport

4,066 posts

228 months

Thursday 19th July 2012
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Do you mean coil packs for a 993?

thegoose

8,075 posts

211 months

Thursday 19th July 2012
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Solarized said:
I'm not completely sure SS.

The fella said ' coils '??
That makes more sense. Aircooled cars have distributors that distribute high tension (voltage) from the coil(s) to the spark plugs (via the HT leads), rather than later cars which have individual coil packs on each spark plug and only low tension (voltage) signals are sent to them.

A 993 has 2 distributors, each sending spark power to 6 plugs (1 per cylinder) - i.e. 12 plugs in total. Changing each coil is no more than 15 minutes work, and they are the sort of thing where failure can manifest itself at certain temperatures.

Solarized

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436 posts

142 months

Thursday 19th July 2012
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Cheers Goose.
Perhaps the 8 hour drive home in it cooked a few electrical items / connections.
I was aware of how hot my seatbelt had become upon returning from filing up!

Waitforme

1,192 posts

165 months

Thursday 19th July 2012
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This is good news for the OP as his car may be fixed by this recall.

Also great news for the rest of us with dodgy engines, looking fwd to the recall for IMS issue ......

carcrazypop

579 posts

165 months

Thursday 19th July 2012
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I'm staggered there are still early 993's around which have'nt had the wiring loom recall work done.

If it had been serviced by Porsche earlier in its life it should have been done automatically.

I've had a couple of early 993's and a quick call to Porsche confirmed on both occasions the recall work had been done.

Anyway, good luck to the OP & hope it cures the problems.

Solarized

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436 posts

142 months

Thursday 19th July 2012
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Yeah hopefully - just wish I'd done this before spending quite a bit on new starter, dizzy caps / rotors and fan belt although I asked for the fan new belt as the old one appeared cracked in places.

PP -the rubber 'thingy' recall for the doors is a rubber gasket / stopper.

Solarized

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436 posts

142 months

Thursday 19th July 2012
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It's not confirmed yet but once I gave them the VIN number they said they would inspect the wiring loom to see if the part number matched those to be replaced.

The car's now to be inspected later today. I hope if it does get replaced then it doesn't affect anything else and show up some more 'gremlins'

carcrazypop

579 posts

165 months

Thursday 19th July 2012
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Solarized said:
It's not confirmed yet but once I gave them the VIN number they said they would inspect the wiring loom to see if the part number matched those to be replaced.

The car's now to be inspected later today. I hope if it does get replaced then it doesn't affect anything else and show up some more 'gremlins'
Porsche should be able to tell you from the VIN whether the recall has been done or not.

Solarized

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436 posts

142 months

Thursday 19th July 2012
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Yeah I was told by one person at Porsche that the wiring loom recall had not been done on my car and that it was due however when I called back the next person I spoke to said that the vehicle still had to be inspected to see if the part number on my existing wiring loom was the one on Porsches list for replacement.

I found this rather odd however the car is there now so let's see what transpires.

ps It's not the first time I've been given conflicting info from them.

davek_964

8,832 posts

176 months

Thursday 19th July 2012
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Solarized said:
Yeah hopefully - just wish I'd done this before spending quite a bit on new starter, dizzy caps / rotors and fan belt although I asked for the fan new belt as the old one appeared cracked in places.
Dizzy caps / rotors are consumables which often get neglected anyway, so well worth doing. When I bought my 964 years ago, I had idle problems - after paying a mechanic money to (not) solve it, it was eventually sorted by replacing the caps and rotors.

Although the starter probably didn't need doing - the "locking up / seizing" you described in your original post is something my 964 used to do (I had an occasional warm start problem, which never got worse and I never cured - so when that happened and it didn't fire, the starter would go "clunk" and stop until I turned the key and attempted a restart). Although it lasted a few years, my starter eventually died - once it was replaced it never did that again (even though the warm start issue remained).

So you probably replaced it before you absolutely had to - but I suspect it was on it's way out anyway.

Rugbyman

1,625 posts

204 months

Thursday 19th July 2012
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The recall is to inspect and check the part number on the loom and if it falls within parameters to replace the loom - due to the age of the vehicles if the part number is not clear or not fully visible then the loom should be replaced.

These vehicles could have changed hands many times by now or had the recall carried out outside the UK where records can be patchy .

Porsche are doing the right thing - ie if the records do not show the recall has been carried out best practise is to check

Im sure you will agree that due to the potential consequences this is the correct approach ?

Solarized

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436 posts

142 months

Thursday 19th July 2012
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Absolutely.

The misfire was showing up a faulty injector on cylinder 4. We thought at first the ECU may need replaced as there seemed to be an error in the fuel mixture as it was running rich. This is what the indy said that the seizing up noise was. The injector was cleaned and the car actually appeared more powerful however it didn't last long. Next day the misfire and starting issue returned.

I've just been given good and bad news!

The wiring loom has indeed to be replaced HOWEVER they need to order the part from Germany and it won't be ready until next Wednesday..and no courtesy car.

The exsiting wiring loom had a sticker on it dated 1994. I'm told the job takes over 5 hours to complete as this car has air con.

The tech believes that this new loom will solve my problem and he also said he may call me if ' other stuff needs doing ' while they're in there.

It is good news however I just want to drive this car NOW! Maybe come next week the monsoon will be almost over and I'll finally have a chance to get on with enjoying this 993.

davek_964

8,832 posts

176 months

Thursday 19th July 2012
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Solarized said:
The wiring loom has indeed to be replaced HOWEVER they need to order the part from Germany and it won't be ready until next Wednesday..and no courtesy car.
Why? Because they don't have one available?

Rugbyman

1,625 posts

204 months

Thursday 19th July 2012
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I know its a pain and I feel your frustration ....but when you have your car back you will know it has been re-wired by Porsche at no cost to yourself

Piece of mind is a wonderful thing and the few days enjoyment lost will be forgotten very soon