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glenn911C4S

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246 posts

104 months

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Wednesday 1st August 2012 quote quote all
Is the sports chrono a must have on the 991s PDK?

MrTickle

1,484 posts

109 months

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Wednesday 1st August 2012 quote quote all
yes

BnB

998 posts

45 months

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Wednesday 1st August 2012 quote quote all
glenn911C4S said:
Is the sports chrono a must have on the 991s PDK?
It will be for resale.

Personally I can do without an auto program which keeps the revs above 4k, just use manual mode and choose your own rev range.

It also changes the throttle map, but less than in the 997. The 991 throttle already feels rocket fast in Normal.

But I do appreciate the little bit of slip to PSM that it provides. Yesterday, on a greasy coiling sliproad my 991 performed a rather elegant slide (on an empty road very late at night I should add) and it definitely makes the car feel more alive. If you like that sort of thing. Not for the rush hour, mind.

And don't forget the dynamic engine mounts. Apparently they give a more comfortable and more sporty ride. Very hard to tell whether what you feel is PASM, DEM, PDCC though....

Carl_Docklands

2,103 posts

132 months

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After my recent pilot in a couple of 991 cars i would say no, not any more.

The sport button is standard on all pdk cars now so you only get sport plus and the mounts. I would wager that sport plus is one of the most unused button on anyones car bar, the Porsche silverstone guys to demo launch control. Nobody really uses it. The real hands just switch psm off and hit sport.

Dynamic engine mounts are a bit like the other options, you don't need em.

The clock is also more hideous and you can now hear the thing tick.

The lack of this option on a 991 would not affect resale, It won't be on my next spec some peeps would actually prefer not to have it.



Edited by Carl_Docklands on Wednesday 1st August 19:32

MrTickle

1,484 posts

109 months

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Thursday 2nd August 2012 quote quote all
Doesn't Sport Plus further increase the shift speed on the gearbox too though?

I thought, Sport Plus in manual seemed the perfect combo... fastest shifts, loose PSM without the car redlining all the time smile

I wouldn't bother with it on a manual, but PDK it seems worthwhile to me.
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BnB

998 posts

45 months

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MrTickle said:
Doesn't Sport Plus further increase the shift speed on the gearbox too though?

I thought, Sport Plus in manual seemed the perfect combo... fastest shifts, loose PSM without the car redlining all the time smile

I wouldn't bother with it on a manual, but PDK it seems worthwhile to me.
Yep. I forgot about the shift speed. SportPlus in manual mode is indeed how I drive on anything but the commute. Good call, Jon.

Suspect I would still spec it with a manual for the DEMs. I've driven 5 991s and the only one without Sport Chrono/DEMs had a crafty ride, though that could be down to tyre pressures. I didn't check.

Carl_Docklands

2,103 posts

132 months

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Thursday 2nd August 2012 quote quote all
MrTickle said:
Doesn't Sport Plus further increase the shift speed on the gearbox too though?

I thought, Sport Plus in manual seemed the perfect combo... fastest shifts, loose PSM without the car redlining all the time smile

I wouldn't bother with it on a manual, but PDK it seems worthwhile to me.
Thats the theory, in practise most drivers will never use the button and its a waste of money better spent elsewhere.


Blue62

1,421 posts

22 months

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BnB said:
Yep. I forgot about the shift speed. SportPlus in manual mode is indeed how I drive on anything but the commute. Good call, Jon.

Suspect I would still spec it with a manual for the DEMs. I've driven 5 991s and the only one without Sport Chrono/DEMs had a crafty ride, though that could be down to tyre pressures. I didn't check.
I have it but if I had to sacrifice in order to have PDCC/PSE, the chrono would go. On antother note BnB, I know that you fiddled with the pressures on your GTS, have you experimented with your 991 yet?

JonathanLegard

5,125 posts

107 months

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Thursday 23rd August 2012 quote quote all
I like Sport Plus engaged on a manual 991S. You get the exhaust burble, looser PSM, the punchy throttle and the stop/start deactivated all with one button press.

Blue62

1,421 posts

22 months

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I've had an issue with sport plus in auto mode, my car has stuck in 1st gear and I've had to quickly manual shift, happened on a couple of occasions now, anyone else had similar?

Tony 1234

1,478 posts

97 months

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Carl_Docklands said:
After my recent pilot in a couple of 991 cars i would say no, not any more.

The sport button is standard on all pdk cars now so you only get sport plus and the mounts. I would wager that sport plus is one of the most unused button on anyones car bar, the Porsche silverstone guys to demo launch control. Nobody really uses it. The real hands just switch psm off and hit sport.

Dynamic engine mounts are a bit like the other options, you don't need em.

The clock is also more hideous and you can now hear the thing tick.

The lack of this option on a 991 would not affect resale, It won't be on my next spec some peeps would actually prefer not to have it.



Edited by Carl_Docklands on Wednesday 1st August 19:32
Could not disagree more, another 'expert' that does not own the car

DSM2

3,624 posts

70 months

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Thursday 23rd August 2012 quote quote all
Tony 1234 said:
Carl_Docklands said:
After my recent pilot in a couple of 991 cars i would say no, not any more.

The sport button is standard on all pdk cars now so you only get sport plus and the mounts. I would wager that sport plus is one of the most unused button on anyones car bar, the Porsche silverstone guys to demo launch control. Nobody really uses it. The real hands just switch psm off and hit sport.

Dynamic engine mounts are a bit like the other options, you don't need em.

The clock is also more hideous and you can now hear the thing tick.

The lack of this option on a 991 would not affect resale, It won't be on my next spec some peeps would actually prefer not to have it.



Edited by Carl_Docklands on Wednesday 1st August 19:32
Could not disagree more, another 'expert' that does not own the car
So why is it a 'must have' then, in your owner's opinion?

Carl_Docklands

2,103 posts

132 months

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Thursday 23rd August 2012 quote quote all
Tony 1234 said:
Carl_Docklands said:
After my recent pilot in a couple of 991 cars i would say no, not any more.

The sport button is standard on all pdk cars now so you only get sport plus and the mounts. I would wager that sport plus is one of the most unused button on anyones car bar, the Porsche silverstone guys to demo launch control. Nobody really uses it. The real hands just switch psm off and hit sport.

Dynamic engine mounts are a bit like the other options, you don't need em.

The clock is also more hideous and you can now hear the thing tick.

The lack of this option on a 991 would not affect resale, It won't be on my next spec some peeps would actually prefer not to have it.



Edited by Carl_Docklands on Wednesday 1st August 19:32
Could not disagree more, another 'expert' that does not own the car
Snozzer is about to take delivery of a C2S spanker without the option so hopefully he will give us some insight om how he copes day-to-day without the 'sport-plus' button.

DSM2

3,624 posts

70 months

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Friday 24th August 2012 quote quote all
And Tony will be here soon to put the other side.

Tony 1234

1,478 posts

97 months

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DSM2 said:
And Tony will be here soon to put the other side.
laugh

DSM2

3,624 posts

70 months

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Tony 1234 said:
DSM2 said:
And Tony will be here soon to put the other side.
laugh
Oh come on! wink

You strongly disagree that it's not worth having, so you must be able to qualify that opinion. Especially as you have the thing.


Snozzer

22 posts

11 months

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Couldn't really see the point myself. Probably won't use the car on a track and haven't specced PDCC or the sports exhaust, which might make a case for it. For me, launch control was the only thing in its favour, but you look a right monkey at the lights with the spoiler and revs up. £1k seemed a lot for a button I'd use once or twice. The car came in at 87k as it was, I'd be digging too deep to go much further.




SFO

2,608 posts

53 months

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Saturday 25th August 2012 quote quote all
worthwhile for the dynamic engine mounts

Snozzer

22 posts

11 months

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Sunday 26th August 2012 quote quote all
SFO said:
worthwhile for the dynamic engine mounts
Good point, if the salesman had mentioned that I'd probably have gone for it. Oh well!
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