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Skellen
Original Poster
1,061 posts
127 months
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Been looking around for another family car for a while. We hardly do any miles so this car would do 4-5k per annum max. I nearly feel off my chair as to how little a 6-7 year old version of these goes for - what has happened? Is it just large engine and out of fashion or are there really serious issues?
I've done the usual searches and it seems the gearbox can be trouble.
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David911RSR
930 posts
79 months
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I had a 2003 model 4.5 V8 S for 2 years (purchased at 12 mths old). It was a good car and they only thing that needed replacement (other than tyres & brakes) was the rear parking sensors. A friend currently has a 2005 model V8 S with 75K miles on the clock. He has just had to replace a drive shaft which he was told is a common fault. Fantastic value for money IMHO
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bigee
541 posts
107 months
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I think you are right...large engine and out of fashion....mind you as you have discovered in falling off your chair,that means absolute bargains for the likes of us that do not follow fashion!
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A911DOM
4,060 posts
104 months
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No you're not mad. I decided to plump for a 2004 4.5s as they were pretty cheap to buy and I didn't want a brand new Renault 'paperbag' to run the kids round in. I also just had a propshaft replaced, and after the sharp frosts last winter I had to replace the coil packs (HT leads) as it was misfiring (cracked coilpack letting in moisture)... Not cheap as it needs 8 of everything obviously. Anyway. The older ones still look good (for a whaleshark of a car), the power and handling are quite impressive for such a cumbersome looking beast, but I would personally steer away from the massive alloys (stick with 19" or so) as it does make it quite 'firm' driving over anything larger than a gnats kneecap  Fuel usage is frightening to be honest, if you haven't experienced LARGE engined MPG figures before it will come as quite a shock just how much and often you're filling it up!
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Magic919
7,546 posts
70 months
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The problem with the V8 engines may not help, but certainly makes them cheap. Haven't heard of any actual failures, but there are probably fewer Cayenne owners on here.
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jonny996
865 posts
86 months
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A911DOM said: No you're not mad. I would personally steer away from the massive alloys (stick with 19" or so) as it does make it quite 'firm' driving over anything larger than a gnats kneecap Have to agree, I have the 20" rims and would think the 19" would have the looks / ride balance better
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bqf
940 posts
40 months
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Big engined cars are amazing value. Have a look at MB S Classes! They're buttons!
The world has gone bananas
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jackal
9,765 posts
151 months
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Love mine to bits. It will one day get replaced with another.
20" rims and i keep it on the lowest air setting and stiffest damping all the time. It could/should be stiffer IMO. I would love to drive one with even firmer suspension and harder bushings and bars. Th chassis is well up for it. Cracking all purpose cars.
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essexboi
32 posts
32 months
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had one for 2 years - 3.2 v6..its on 20's and the ride, as said above, can be a pain on anything over than fresh tarmac....but they look good! Yep - probably depreciated like a bestard in the time ive had it, but its a lot of car for the money.
What would you rather have a euro paper bag as said or a well built fully loaded Porsche - do it!
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Skellen
Original Poster
1,061 posts
127 months
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Thanks guys. On the fuel point - I fully expect high teen / low twenties in terms of MPG. The Volvo only manages mid 20's on average and thats a diesel.... (underpowered car and heavy right foot!). Plus we only do very little miles, so I'm not that concerned. The choice is 3.2 or 4.5 - I know what I really want but I just need to be persuaded (if you know what I mean).
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jackal
9,765 posts
151 months
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16mpg after 11k miles
thats 50% motorway
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mountainreef
89 posts
17 months
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jackal said: 16mpg after 11k miles
thats 50% motorway This is what put me off a couple of years back
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shoestring7
4,171 posts
115 months
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jackal said: 16mpg after 11k miles
thats 50% motorway A 4.5 or a 3.2? SS7
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David911RSR
930 posts
79 months
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My 4.5 V8 averaged 16.5MPG over 20,000 miles
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jackal
9,765 posts
151 months
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shoestring7 said: jackal said: 16mpg after 11k miles
thats 50% motorway A 4.5 or a 3.2? SS7 Cayenne S V8 MY2006
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Zanderman
660 posts
81 months
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I have also bee thinking about one of these for the family run around, stunning value for money now!
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essexboi
32 posts
32 months
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jackal said: shoestring7 said: jackal said: 16mpg after 11k miles
thats 50% motorway A 4.5 or a 3.2? SS7 Cayenne S V8 MY2006 you must be tanking it on the m'way?
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jackal
9,765 posts
151 months
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essexboi said: you must be tanking it on the m'way? Sometimes, sometimes not. I personally think you only ever get high teens in these things over a long period of time if you drive REALLY sensibly and very sympathetic to achieving a high MPG, like coasting up to traffic lights, never giving it WOT or going beyond 2500rpm, using cruise control and absolutely no pulses of pressure on the throttle on the Mway etc. People's driving varies massively in my experience and when folk recount great MPG figures then never really convey to you just how well they drive with regard to fuel economy. I've never driven like that and would find it way too painful to do so, pointless as well and completely antithetical to my philosophy on life. I completely dote on the sensations of motion, weight, acceleration and decelleration etc. so I am a constant fiddler whether that be with the throttle, sterring or brakes; I can't bear a steady state with no change in anything. I also do give it plenty of beans from time to time and use the thing to its limits, cornering/braking/acceleration. That said, DavidRSR's experience seems to match mine exactly as does other folk I have spoken to so I'm not that abnormal. I did do a whole tank once on the Mway and taking it at a very steady 70mph just as an experiment but I think i only got 420 miles or so so im not convinced i could improve much upon 16.5ish even if I tried.
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hondansx
148 posts
94 months
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Think it is just economics. Not as many people in the second hand market can afford the steep running costs, so the values plummet. Just about anything a few years old with a V8 is silly money, the world's your oyster if you're not concerned with running costs!
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essexboi
32 posts
32 months
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jackal said: essexboi said: you must be tanking it on the m'way? Sometimes, sometimes not. I personally think you only ever get high teens in these things over a long period of time if you drive REALLY sensibly and very sympathetic to achieving a high MPG, like coasting up to traffic lights, never giving it WOT or going beyond 2500rpm, using cruise control and absolutely no pulses of pressure on the throttle on the Mway etc. People's driving varies massively in my experience and when folk recount great MPG figures then never really convey to you just how well they drive with regard to fuel economy. I've never driven like that and would find it way too painful to do so, pointless as well and completely antithetical to my philosophy on life. I completely dote on the sensations of motion, weight, acceleration and decelleration etc. so I am a constant fiddler whether that be with the throttle, sterring or brakes; I can't bear a steady state with no change in anything. I also do give it plenty of beans from time to time and use the thing to its limits, cornering/braking/acceleration. That said, DavidRSR's experience seems to match mine exactly as does other folk I have spoken to so I'm not that abnormal. I did do a whole tank once on the Mway and taking it at a very steady 70mph just as an experiment but I think i only got 420 miles or so so im not convinced i could improve much upon 16.5ish even if I tried. Agree to the extent that I dont chase MPG figures - your figures just seemed low given a mixed driving environment, but you appear to push on a fair bit given your explanation. 24mpg is pie in the sky though, even if the PCM says low 20's is it really?! c400 to a tank seems about right in normal circumstances. although i did do deepest essex to Sheffield and back on one tank (@70 ish) - 15 miles on the range when arrived home and up to 560 on the range at the outset - so whats that in real money? M'way pushing on can be depressing - you can easily cane a tank of SUL in no time
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