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MrTickle

1,453 posts

108 months

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Interesting.

Personally, I see Porsche as doing exactly the opposite. Their cars perceived as driving pleasure, every day sports cars rather than image conscious bling. Maybe it vary's where you live, but Porsche are pretty common where I am, and there are enough Ferraris, Astons and Lambo to grab the attention.

Given the reaction most people have to a new '911' of being lazy with design, hardly any different to the old one etc. etc. but the press always raving about how good they drive and are class leaders despite any revolutionary design, I think Porsche have it bang on.

SEE YA

1,730 posts

114 months

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How much are they worth?
Jmracing66 said:
I wouldn't worry about it, it's not like you are driving a new 991. A tanning salon girl wouldn't know what a 930 turbo was and how much it's worth.

Besides you might even find a girl that likes classic Porsches !

andyeds1234

221 posts

39 months

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Bodo said:
When I get to know women, I hide my Porsche too - to a degree where I rent a Focus when taking them somewhere to an outing in the countryside, unless they know me well enough. I wouldn't want to be identified with any bling stuff. Don't get me wrong - a Porsche is an excellent puller for a quick adventure; but everyone who wants to attract sincere ladies will refrain from using a magnet for tanning salon girls.
Just admit that the ladies you are dating are too large to fit into a Cayman, hence the rented Focus.
No need to make up an elaborate cover story.
Get yourself a Cayenne instead, the chubbies will love you for it wink

Edited by andyeds1234 on Thursday 9th August 09:14


Edited by andyeds1234 on Thursday 9th August 09:16

911god

1,832 posts

54 months

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SEE YA said:
They are worth what anyone's prepared to pay.
Some think they are ugly now with horrendous turbo lag and bad handling and others still love the look.
Horses for courses

SEE YA

1,730 posts

114 months

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The thing is in general people see a Porsche the price goes up.
You get someone come round for a quote, to do work on your house they see one on the drive etc.
Each to there own.
I have have told no one what I have at work etc.
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dibblecorse

2,181 posts

61 months

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Ha ha ha, is this not the archetypal Porsche Forum thread ........ twaddle of the highest order .......

NorthDave

376 posts

101 months

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Tyrewrecker said:
He could say it was a courtesy car while pork was in getting a 2000quid service wink
That made me laugh out loud. The double bluff! I like it.

LuckyP

6,031 posts

94 months

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Just think ourselves lucky that we have Porsches and not Fezza or Lambos....then we might have to hide them away for fear of what people might think!

I love the conversations that start with something along the lines of - "I bet that cost a pretty penny?" or "you must be doing ok?" as it gives me a foot in the door to wax lyrical for 10 mins about how "I couldn't afford NOT to buy a Porsche" as, from experience they seem to be extremely good value. I don't mind saying that I look for reduced stickers in supermarkets and shop at TKMaxx. It'll all means more funds for fuel, tax and service.

A lot depends on why one got into Porsche in the first place. Hooked by the image of success, the undeniable motorsport provenance or perhaps the design and shape. I feel very comfortable in either the 964 or the GT3 as they were both car arrived at not through image, but purely through function. I simply couldn't find a better value comfortable euro drive to track slag that would take me there, lap me around and get me home. It happens to have a Porsche badge on the front. This is my human side - my decision to embrace value and performance. I'm very comfortable with this.


Lucks



Edited by LuckyP on Thursday 9th August 09:51

Caractacus

2,408 posts

94 months

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LuckyP said:
Just think ourselves lucky that we have Porsches and not Fezza or Lambos....then we might have to hide them away for fear of what people might think!

I love the conversations that start with something along the lines of - "I bet that cost a pretty penny?" or "you must be doing ok?" as it gives me a foot in the door to wax lyrical for 10 mins about how "I couldn't afford NOT to buy a Porsche" as, from experience they seem to be extremely good value. I don't mind saying that I look for reduced stickers in supermarkets and shop at TKMaxx. It'll all means more funds for fuel, tax and service.

A lot depends on why one got into Porsche in the first place. Hooked by the image of success, the undeniable motorsport provenance or perhaps the design and shape. I feel very comfortable in either the 964 or the GT3 as they were both car arrived at not through image, but purely through function. I simply couldn't find a better value comfortable euro drive to track slag that would take me there, lap me around and get me home. It happens to have a Porsche badge on the front. This is my human side - my decision to embrace value and performance. I'm very comfortable with this.


Lucks



Edited by LuckyP on Thursday 9th August 09:51
Nicely put, Lucky. smile

I too have always loved the form following function.

Each to there own and all that tho...personally, I'd never rent a hire car when taking out a date tho!

Actus Reus

1,446 posts

24 months

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Personally, in my single days, I found driving a Porsche to be something that you shouldn't mention in conversation, but I never tried to hide it - though when I met my wife I apparently DID mention the Porsche (I was wasted), and then sold it before our first date... Make of that what you will.

ETA - as to everybody else - fk 'em, though the Cayman has had nothing but positive comments, the Boxster was more mixed.

Edited by Actus Reus on Thursday 9th August 10:26

Old Trout

1,545 posts

44 months

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Bodo said:
In both cases the lady-boys were positive on the Cayman later.
EFA wink

Crimp a Length!

4,730 posts

92 months

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I remember a few yrs ago when i had my 993 C4S some plank made the comment what you driving an old 911 like that for can't you afford a newer one or something.

Porsche do have this "Loadsamoney" image though with certain elements of the general public which to be honest relates back to the heyday 80's red brace/big phone tossers era.

My personal opinion who gives a flying fk if i want to own one and can afford it and work hard then tough st, its not a dress rehearsal

uktrailmonster

4,406 posts

69 months

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Bodo said:
I was ranting about what the world and Porsche's own brand architecture has come to; giving an example of the museum and some anecdotes, bottomlining in me wanting to see a little less glamour, and a few more battered but successful race cars from Porsche marketing. Not a too abstract concept for a petrolhead forum.

Some contributors felt challenged to highlight that they are not interested in what others think. One thought a Porsche is an issue in a council estate, another thinks that avoiding being judged by owning a Porsche means having no life; others object to the Focus. I can assure you - it's not always a Focus; sometimes the hire company doesn't have one, and then provides a Golf or an Astra, or even an upgrade to a Mondeo hehe

Then there is the pulling factor - worth a thread of its own. I've never bought a car for the pulling factor; but come to think of it, the Land Rover Series II fits my pattern of prey best, based on almost ten years of empirical studies. This might not work in the English countryside, where they are ubiquitous; but it certainly does in European urban areas.

The hire car scam has yet to have it's cover blown (after two cases). Lady sees obvious hire car, and asks something like 'Don't you own a car?' - 'Yes, I do - it's in for a service' - which always ended of topic.

In both cases the ladies were positive on the Cayman later. Lady A asked not to drive too fast, and then wanted a go herself (she was hesitant to rev it above 5k though). Lady B asked me why I was dawdling about - at 180km/h. smile
Would it be fair to say that you have issues with Porsche branding or any kind of branding? Don't let it ruin your enjoyment of what are really great cars. Also IME most women are not that bothered what car you drive. It's how you present yourself that counts. My wife hates poseurs but quickly realised I wasn't into cars for that reason. If you feel the need to hire a Focus for a date I'd say you have lost the plot.

Edit: Your friend with the hidden garage sounds mental with a serious complex. I could understand it if he lived in a South African ghetto, but I presume he doesn't.

Edited by uktrailmonster on Thursday 9th August 10:56

billybob69

672 posts

14 months

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I think the Focus is more to do with the blood stains on the Porsche.

Porsche to me is the sound and feel over the what others think. I do think it depends in which circles you travel.

EvoSlayer

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54 months

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When I meet women I hide my Ford Focus and rent a Porsche biglaugh

Caractacus

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EvoSlayer said:
When I meet women I hide my Ford Focus and rent a Porsche biglaugh
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Bodo

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135 months

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uktrailmonster said:
Would it be fair to say that you have issues with Porsche branding or any kind of branding? Don't let it ruin your enjoyment of what are really great cars. Also IME most women are not that bothered what car you drive. It's how you present yourself that counts. My wife hates poseurs but quickly realised I wasn't into cars for that reason. If you feel the need to hire a Focus for a date I'd say you have lost the plot.

Edit: Your friend with the hidden garage sounds mental with a serious complex. I could understand it if he lived in a South African ghetto, but I presume he doesn't.

Edited by uktrailmonster on Thursday 9th August 10:56
Well, let's put it this way: I'd not faff about if it was a Caterham-esque image. I think I'm very reasonable on the scale between
Supercar hire to be King for a Day and overcautious secrecy (albeit for different reasons).
I'm not showing the Porsche in the early dating phase and not when doing business (unless it's arms trade, drug dealing or art trade wink)

That ex-colleague and I are both living in Germany - where the norm is a 1.5-yr.-old Passat Estate, and Porsches tucked away in garages are as common as poseurs cruising in them up and down the high street.

Bodo

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Actually, thinking of the differences between DE and UK - Germans never talk about salary professionally or privately or their job hierarchy when outside the company (which I recall to be the opposite in the UK or China).

Actus Reus

1,446 posts

24 months

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One thing that confirmed to my then girlfriend, now wife, that I was into driving, not posing, was taking her up to a PEC 'Drive the Range' day quite soon after we'd met. She loves adrenaline sports like bungee jumps, and so I figured, rightly, that she'd like thrashing a selection or Porsches around a track.

Put another way I think a lot of it is how you present yourself and your hobby to people (as I think was said above) - it's easy to come across as a flash Harry in a Porsche, but when I get up at 5am on a Sunday for a hoon, the missus knows I'm not out posing!

ETA: agree about Germany (having worked/lived in Munich for a year) - also, for branding stuff, look at Porsche's various ads on Youtube - there's a great one of a young lad going into a Porsche dealership and asking to sit in a 997 - that, for me, is what it's all about - I always knew I wanted a fast car, probably a Porsche, and when I got one, albeit a humble Boxster, I could almost have cried - I'd achieved a lifelong ambition...I wasn't going to let anybody stop me or spoil my dream.

Edited by Actus Reus on Thursday 9th August 11:35

Great Pretender

23,721 posts

83 months

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6C4GTS said:
Bodo said:
I hide my Porsche
Time to buy a 911??
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rofl

Utter drivel. Unless you live in outer Mongolia, a Porsche is just about as common a sight as any other car. Why go to the bother of hiding it, 'for fear of being branded rich'?

What an unbelievably crass thing to say.

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