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hendy

463 posts

108 months

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Thom987 said:
Any idea when this is repeated?
Looks like it's on Friday evening as well, sky plus set to record smile

Blue62

1,396 posts

21 months

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Steve Rance said:
Actually, ceramics won't make any difference to the lap time. They are no quicker than steels. Maybe a very small advantage (a tenth or so) if the car was fitted with slicks.

Over 2 seconds is a huge difference if there was tyre parity. It will be interesting to establish what tyres were fitted to the 991 although porsche tend to fit the stickiest tyres to press cars for obvious reasons. PDK would be worth a few tenths but over all there would still be a 2 second gap which is a very long time on a circuit. On the road, it really doesn't matter.

With a driver of average ability, the difference will be less I suspect as the 991's performance at the higher end of the envelope will be more accessible than the GT3's. Some drivers will love that and some won't. I think that this aspect (in reality more than the electric steering issue) is what will divide opinion on the 991.

I think that on balance, more will love it than hate it.
Agree with this completely, the 991 offers an awful lot for us average folk.

Dr S

3,215 posts

95 months

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Steve Rance said:
...Over 2 seconds is a huge difference if there was tyre parity. It will be interesting to establish what tyres were fitted to the 991 although porsche tend to fit the stickiest tyres to press cars for obvious reasons. PDK would be worth a few tenths but over all there would still be a 2 second gap which is a very long time on a circuit...
+1

Given all the reviews and the stated lap times on Nordschleife where the 991S was claimed to be on par with the 7.2 GT3, I find this result very surprising. For such a short circuit, over 2 seconds is worlds apart...

mhh

708 posts

111 months

SonnyM

2,679 posts

62 months

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Dr S said:
Steve Rance said:
...Over 2 seconds is a huge difference if there was tyre parity. It will be interesting to establish what tyres were fitted to the 991 although porsche tend to fit the stickiest tyres to press cars for obvious reasons. PDK would be worth a few tenths but over all there would still be a 2 second gap which is a very long time on a circuit...
+1

Given all the reviews and the stated lap times on Nordschleife where the 991S was claimed to be on par with the 7.2 GT3, I find this result very surprising. For such a short circuit, over 2 seconds is worlds apart...
Wonder what the weight difference was between the cars with spec, drivers and fuel.
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Shewie

249 posts

59 months

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mhh said:
Nice!! Thought I was going to have to wait six months for it to be shown on Freeview via the Quest channel

Cheers thumbup

garyhun

13,992 posts

97 months

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High praise indeed!

fioran0

1,388 posts

41 months

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Dr S said:
+1

Given all the reviews and the stated lap times on Nordschleife where the 991S was claimed to be on par with the 7.2 GT3, I find this result very surprising. For such a short circuit, over 2 seconds is worlds apart...
other lap times ive seen for the 991S put it at a similar or fractionally quicker pace to a 996GT3 (assuming fast drivers in both). its a good 3 seconds slower than a 7.2 GT3 around most tracks with regular lap lengths.
that being said, i suspect the level of sweat on the forehead after the lap in the 996 and the 991S are vastly different.

Manks

5,018 posts

91 months

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He seemed to like it then, and the steering too.



franki68

1,423 posts

90 months

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Manks said:
He seemed to like it then, and the steering too.
Don't start.....

cayman-black

2,691 posts

85 months

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mhh said:
Thanks mhh. That GT3 especially in that colour just makes the 991 look bland and boring imo of course!

fastgerman

695 posts

64 months

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fioran0 said:
other lap times ive seen for the 991S put it at a similar or fractionally quicker pace to a 996GT3 (assuming fast drivers in both). its a good 3 seconds slower than a 7.2 GT3 around most tracks with regular lap lengths.

that being said, i suspect the level of sweat on the forehead after the lap in the 996 and the 991S are vastly different.
Hmmm not sure about that, at the Boxster launch they said the new Boxster S lapped the Ring quicker than a 996 GT3. 991 must be a fair deal quicker than the new Boxster.

Blue62

1,396 posts

21 months

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cayman-black said:
Thanks mhh. That GT3 especially in that colour just makes the 991 look bland and boring imo of course!
It does look rather good doesn't it, but then it is a GT3 and I don't think that colour/wheel combo works too well on the 991.

mollytherocker

6,895 posts

78 months

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hendy said:
Looks like it's on Friday evening as well, sky plus set to record smile
Its on at 11am on Thursday too. Disco HD 520.

MTR

Carl_Docklands

2,040 posts

131 months

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Blue62 said:
cayman-black said:
Thanks mhh. That GT3 especially in that colour just makes the 991 look bland and boring imo of course!
It does look rather good doesn't it, but then it is a GT3 and I don't think that colour/wheel combo works too well on the 991.
Not really fair on the 991 when we aint seen the new bird in her new GT3 party dress and bright makeup.


cayman-black

2,691 posts

85 months

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Carl_Docklands said:
Not really fair on the 991 when we aint seen the new bird in her new GT3 party dress and bright makeup.

Thats better!

[AJ]

2,923 posts

67 months

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cayman-black said:
Carl_Docklands said:
Not really fair on the 991 when we aint seen the new bird in her new GT3 party dress and bright makeup.

Thats better!
Shame about the sunroof! I still can't bring myself to like it.

Gibbo205

1,415 posts

76 months

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fioran0 said:
if the 991 was on super sports, then nothing at all.
How would you rate SuperSports against CUPs m8 for dry track use?

cayman-black

2,691 posts

85 months

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[AJ] said:
Shame about the sunroof! I still can't bring myself to like it.
Did not even notice, but your right its terrible.

fioran0

1,388 posts

41 months

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fastgerman said:
Hmmm not sure about that, at the Boxster launch they said the new Boxster S lapped the Ring quicker than a 996 GT3. 991 must be a fair deal quicker than the new Boxster.
I'm sure they did. I've seen the lap times coming in for the 991S at a few tracks now with fast drivers at the wheel and know exactly what the various GT3s do at those tracks too with comparable drivers.
It's giving times that are roughly stock 996 GT3 pace.

It's meaningless anyways IMHO.



Edited by fioran0 on Tuesday 4th September 21:37

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