PCM Sat Nav - why bother to order on a new Porsche?
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Much as I hate having excess wires and devices around my car, a Wallee M magnetic mount for my iphone/ipad mini is discreet and provides me with FAR better nav than the PCM 3 in my 997.2. When I bought the car, OPC offered me a 'special' price of about £480 for a map update and about the same again to provide the sport chrono engine maps. Stuff 'em, thought I and I will not pay for inbuilt satnav on any new vehicle I purchase. I see that Porsche do now offer another overpriced option that gives you everything but the satnav for PCM for about £1100 rather than the £2.2k of PCM+satnav, so I guess more and more people are starting to question the satnav-at-all-costs mentality.
LuckyLarry said:
So is this still the case with the 991 Sat Nav? is it chocolate Teapot?
I have found mine to be excellent, correctly predicting traffic delays and guiding me around them on a number of occasions, I admit that I've not used it on the continent but speaking as you find it has worked really well, even recalculating the route and stopping me getting back on to a heavily congested M3 after another redirection. It seemed to be well ahead of the local radio announcements warning of tailbacks...I always specify integrated PCM, with the various modules, on a new Porsche.
And, at point of purchase (i.e. new) it's usually up there with the better systems.
However, one of my biggest criticisms of Porsche is there abject failure to support customers who have invested in PCM, with a cost effective updating service. In my experience it is the source of a lot of 'badwill', and something that could so easily be offered as a service add-on.
Sir, would you like your PCM updated to the 2014 software - £99 + vat (or whatever)?
Customers would do it as a matter of course, Porsches, new and used would have a reputation for a really good navigation system, and OPCs and Porsche would be seen dispensing 'goodwill'.
And, at point of purchase (i.e. new) it's usually up there with the better systems.
However, one of my biggest criticisms of Porsche is there abject failure to support customers who have invested in PCM, with a cost effective updating service. In my experience it is the source of a lot of 'badwill', and something that could so easily be offered as a service add-on.
Sir, would you like your PCM updated to the 2014 software - £99 + vat (or whatever)?
Customers would do it as a matter of course, Porsches, new and used would have a reputation for a really good navigation system, and OPCs and Porsche would be seen dispensing 'goodwill'.
mrdemon said:
resale is 1k less PCM costs 2.2k ?
so you make a lost buying PCM which ever way you look at it.
PCM obviously adds value at re-sale, but clearly only a % of what it cost new, but that's true of all options.so you make a lost buying PCM which ever way you look at it.
Buyers spec PCM, and any other options, for their convenience during ownership, not re-sale.
mrdemon said:
Younez said:
Makes more appealing, all indies ask for this when pricing.
Of course they ask if a car has it, as I said it knocks 1k off a car, they need to value it.But if you bought it for resale, you are still over 1k out of pocket.
If you are buying a road going Porsche I think it's a must have.
It may not be the very best on the market, but I've used it on a couple courtesy Porsches and it's actually pretty good, especially with the display in the instrument panel.
Most of us buy Porsches for their driving and performance qualities, but like the Bose, park assist, xenons, heated seats, etc, it's nice to have there as part of the overall package.
It may not be the very best on the market, but I've used it on a couple courtesy Porsches and it's actually pretty good, especially with the display in the instrument panel.
Most of us buy Porsches for their driving and performance qualities, but like the Bose, park assist, xenons, heated seats, etc, it's nice to have there as part of the overall package.
Im on my third 911 now, (997 turbo), and am still at a loss as to how a high end manufacturer can be so behind the game when it comes to in-car audio and satnav equipment. They seem to be (and have been) years behind low end cars with basic stuff like Bluetooth, touchscreens etc.
These are expensive cars for crying out loud, who does the in car stuff and why have they still got jobs?
These are expensive cars for crying out loud, who does the in car stuff and why have they still got jobs?
AndrewMontgomery said:
Im on my third 911 now, (997 turbo), and am still at a loss as to how a high end manufacturer can be so behind the game when it comes to in-car audio and satnav equipment. They seem to be (and have been) years behind low end cars with basic stuff like Bluetooth, touchscreens etc.
These are expensive cars for crying out loud, who does the in car stuff and why have they still got jobs?
Didn't touchscreens come in with the last of the 997 models (PCM3 ?)These are expensive cars for crying out loud, who does the in car stuff and why have they still got jobs?
sidicks said:
AndrewMontgomery said:
Im on my third 911 now, (997 turbo), and am still at a loss as to how a high end manufacturer can be so behind the game when it comes to in-car audio and satnav equipment. They seem to be (and have been) years behind low end cars with basic stuff like Bluetooth, touchscreens etc.
These are expensive cars for crying out loud, who does the in car stuff and why have they still got jobs?
Didn't touchscreens come in with the last of the 997 models (PCM3 ?)These are expensive cars for crying out loud, who does the in car stuff and why have they still got jobs?
Younez said:
Agree but would take ages to sell without?
nope buy a 05 Cayman and that has the PCM s
ts ville.and the one next to it is 1k cheaper and does not have it, I would buy the 1k cheaper car.
the older the car the less PCM is an issue and if the cars 1k cheaper I would say the 1k cheaper car might sell quicker.
PCM3 touch screen is better but only on later cars, I guess people then want PCM.
but watch out for the £500 full post code upgrade price lol
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