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supermono

7,368 posts

247 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2012
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Also, what a genuinely nasty man that cock-er-nee wka is! How can anyone work with him?

Had to laugh at the distributor lesson. Obviously he has just patchy knowledge of how these things work so why do a piece to camera revealing what a doofus he is?

SM

madala

5,063 posts

197 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2012
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You have to laugh.....it's only a show and format has been exactly the same both weeks with the inevitable tantrum scenes etc....but have to say the paint guy seems to know his job and both the paint finishes on the E-type and Porsche looked pretty damn good to me.

Tony 1234

3,465 posts

226 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2012
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That bold chap has been buying cars to do up on other programs, always shouting and storming off on them as well, all staged I'd say

Pickled Piper

6,334 posts

234 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2012
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It's entertainment. Yes it is all staged. Don't take it too seriously.

The only worry is that inspires similar doofuses to go out and find old cars to do up as a means of making money.

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Gio G

2,945 posts

208 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2012
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That valuation figure means nothing, if they don't try to sell it or put it up for auction. I wonder what car they will work on next week. Bentley or Aston?

DHE

4,505 posts

189 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2012
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It has been said on other PH threads that next week they 'restore' an MGB.

HoHoHo

14,979 posts

249 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2012
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DHE said:
It has been said on other PH threads that next week they 'restore' fk up an MGB.
EFA wink

Mark Sloane

43 posts

184 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2012
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It looks like the base car was a 1985 model. If this is the case, then its got the wrong windows frames too. The chrome frames were from earlier models. I suspect the guy who sold on the car was in the middle of a 1973 RS restoration and got bored or didnt have the money to finish it.
They should have gone all out for a 2.7 replica instead of the mish-mash they created.
They don't tell you the mileage on the car either, so this almost renders the valuation invalid. A genuine 1977 car with 10k miles will fetch considerably more than one with 110k miles.
Also, that front bumper was awful. That would have been the first thing to go if I was doing that project.


albert911tg

11 posts

221 months

Tuesday 2nd October 2012
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Early car, wrong engine,wrong bumpers, wrong rear spoiler, wrong valuation! Otherwise quite entertaining! I should have got this 'expert' to value my '86 Supersport before I sold it-I would have made a fortune!!!

gsewell

693 posts

282 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2012
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Watched this last night and whilst I am new to Porsche I was concerned about....
- multiple references to an ECU. R reg is 1977 and very, very few cars had ECUs. Most did not even have electronic ignition!
- many references to 1/2 a mile of wiring, surely it would be less than 200yards - these cars were not exactly rocket science!
Or were Porsche so far ahead of everyone else?

anonymous-user

53 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2012
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I'm guessing the valuation came in at £2K and the plonkers just added the extra '2"

shoestring7

6,138 posts

245 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2012
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gsewell said:
Watched this last night and whilst I am new to Porsche I was concerned about....
- multiple references to an ECU. R reg is 1977 and very, very few cars had ECUs. Most did not even have electronic ignition!
- many references to 1/2 a mile of wiring, surely it would be less than 200yards - these cars were not exactly rocket science!
Or were Porsche so far ahead of everyone else?
Porsche would only have been ahead if they'd managed to fit a 1984 engine with a Motronic ECU like these clowns had. Originally it would have had a ropey 160bhp 2.7 low compression job with Bosch K-Jetronic system like a lot of VW/BMW/Mercedes of the time.

And you're probably right about the wiring, although the fuse layout is a 40's Gmund relic in these 911s.

SS7

POORCARDEALER

8,523 posts

240 months

Wednesday 3rd October 2012
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It had a 3.2 engine i THINK hence the ECU

Type 49

186 posts

206 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
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I was invited by one of the programme consultants to see the cars, all of them the e the 911 the mg and mini and can confirm they have been done extremely well.

Ignore the tv programme stuff, the team that did the refurb did well. The paintwork is exceptional as is the panel fit, the trim etc. What lets it down, other than the presenters is the engine bay. The 911 is grubby as hell and not my cup of tea.

What the programme has yet to let you in on is that the team rebuit all 4 cars in less than 1 month! yes all 4 cars in 4 weeks with the chaps working 24/7 for the entire period.So well done to all of them they deserve more.

rob.kellock

2,213 posts

191 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
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What, so that makes it ok?

Come on, please.

Crimp a Length!

5,697 posts

222 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
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Only knowledge they have was that everything from Autofarm is too expensive.
I have a great knowledge of the old stuff & PMSL all the way through it.
Better than watching feckin soap operas though fellas. 22k your having a giraffe!!

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

197 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
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Crimp a Length! said:
Only knowledge they have was that everything from Autofarm is too expensive.
I have a great knowledge of the old stuff & PMSL all the way through it.
Better than watching feckin soap operas though fellas. 22k your having a giraffe!!
Does it really what they value it at or not. It's a car show with some entertainment - they give the car away (after the text ins at £1.59 a pop). Any car is only worth what someone is willing to buy it for at the time the seller is actually going to let the keys go. It could be £22k it could be £30k or £8k who knows - however from the purchase price and work done I'd say they are ahead on all the expenses

FarQue

2,336 posts

197 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
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Type 49 said:
I was invited by one of the programme consultants to see the cars, all of them the e the 911 the mg and mini and can confirm they have been done extremely well.

Ignore the tv programme stuff, the team that did the refurb did well. The paintwork is exceptional as is the panel fit, the trim etc. What lets it down, other than the presenters is the engine bay. The 911 is grubby as hell and not my cup of tea.

What the programme has yet to let you in on is that the team rebuit all 4 cars in less than 1 month! yes all 4 cars in 4 weeks with the chaps working 24/7 for the entire period.So well done to all of them they deserve more.
What, so the calipers look pukka even though they were done with a brush? Or didn't you mean that bit?

Type 49

186 posts

206 months

Friday 5th October 2012
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I only mentioned the paint finish, panel gaps and trim and referred to what i was told regarding the effort that the chaps in the bodyshop actually put into the car and the time they had available. That was all and i apologise if my post has offended anyone.

Henry-F

4,791 posts

244 months

Friday 5th October 2012
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Type 49 said:
I only mentioned the paint finish, panel gaps and trim and referred to what i was told regarding the effort that the chaps in the bodyshop actually put into the car and the time they had available. That was all and i apologise if my post has offended anyone.
I think the problem is that the programme isn't about the painters, it's all about Bernie and my impression is that he's something of fraud / botcher. Back in the 1960's he might have got away with it, but even then his work would hardly be described as "best practice". I've only seen the 911 episode and some of the programmes with Rupu or whatever the Indian dude is called. You cringe when you watch him butchering a car.

It didn't help that everything about the Porsche was wrong. It was a collection of car parts bolted together. I mean that wiring - how many chocolate blocks and crimp connectors do you hold the wiring together with before you decide to put it out of it's misery?

Counter that with similar American produced shows where the guys start with a good base car then use specialists, decent parts and skilled labour to produce something which stands close scrutiny. Even seeing that 911 on TV which hides a multitude of sins it was horrible.

I think EBay motors would be a great sponsorship partner for the next series, possibly HPI Equifax car data check.

For what it's worth I too don't think the painters did a bad job from what I saw. I'm sure the devil would have had a say when it came to the detail but from 20 feet it looked bright & shiny. Especially given timescales.

Henry smile