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Paddy_N_Murphy

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16,203 posts

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As per another thread, I am thinking I need a Piece of Pork in my future. A 996 would suit me from a budget perspective and usage point of view - 997's are almost getting down to my budget - and by the time I find the right one the prices may be better still (as 991's come down too etc).

I am really interested in Targa's as a best of both worlds scenario - the slightly bigger back seats than a conv., the lighter cabin and 'open air' driving. The Hatch access....

As suggested, I have gone to chat to a local specialist recommended on PH to talk pork, and answer some basic questions I have
(Sat Nav' / phones are crap apparently, cost of a rebuild, likelihood of a engine rebuild etc)

The nose turned up almost immediately when I mentioned my want for a Targa.
He mentioned that there is a lot of rattle from the Glass / framing.
Not when Tracking (I won't) or hooning (I may) but in day to day driving.

Is this right ?
Can anyone quantify that the Targa does suffer shake and rattles? is it all or a few bad 'uns?

Yes, I know the first way to check or assess - as we all have different tolerance levels - is to go try one, but Ooop Norf, they seem to be a little thin on the ground.

So PH' Targa's and ex-Targa's can you give me some feedback or point to articles on them ?

Cheers

infrasilver

26 posts

44 months

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I've had my 996 Targa for nearly 2 years now and would recommend one to anyone and my next 911 will probably be a 997 Targa 4S, the 997 Targa 4S looks fantastic. I was looking at one today at OPC Nottingham that they have in stock and although the colours internal and external weren't to my taste it still looked a beautiful car.

There are a few squeaks and rattles but keeping the rubbers siliconed once every couple of months keeps mine quiet and even when it does make a noise the positives outweigh the negatives. There can be other issues like leaks or failing sensors or motors but these issues also happen on Coupe's with sunroofs and it a fairly rare problem.

There are some misguided purists around that only think the Coupe is a real 911 but most of these have never even seen a Targa never mind even lived with one.

Great cars, Good luck with your search.

Paddy_N_Murphy

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Reassuring to know. Internet has opinions of rattles too...

Now it is down to finding 'the one' !

Paddy_N_Murphy

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No one else on PH got or has owned - hell even been in ! - a Targa to feed me more info ?

993kimbo

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I was in Paragon when a guy with a 996 Targa came to pick it up after they had replaced a lot of the roof motors/cables and the bill was £6500.
I had a 993 Targa and it rattled all the time. I wouldn't have another but I do like them a lot.

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Paddy_N_Murphy

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Mmmm, not good at 6500 to repair / replace !

Greg66

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64 months

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Why not a cab? The 996s came with a hardtop.

I always think of targa drivers as people who wish they had gone to hairdressing school but dropped out. If you're going to be a hairdresser, embrace your vocation fully and get a cab. I did, and I feel liberated for it...

993kimbo

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My last post, now I've re-read it, was a typical Internet bit of doom-mongering. I'm sorry about that.

I'd like to think that that repair bill was just some very bad luck, but at least you're aware of a worse case scenario. Any garage will tell you that a Targa roof, should it go wrong, could be a very costly repair, but maybe not that many actually go wrong?

Targas are very special cars, they are lovely to live with, especially in this country if you want light in the cabin but don't want to freeze your knadgers off.

Have I spelt knadgers right?

Paddy_N_Murphy

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Gregg, the full hairdresser is an option, but as above, I do think the Targa will give a lot of pluses - light airey as suggested.
Slightly more rear space, the hatch.

I have conjured up thoughts of hardtops ans cabs, but the problem with hardtops is you have them on when you wish you hadn't !

ryankelly

27 posts

36 months

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My Dad has a 996 targa, unquestionably it is a noisier than my C4S coupe but the bright cabin of the targa is probably a nicer place to be. Drive a few and decide for yourself.


993kimbo

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Do you and you dad go out for drives together? That must be great fun. Most Dads have Skodas.

Paddy_N_Murphy

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Cheers Ryan - noisier because of wind noise ? Or rattles and squeaks ?
A nice C2 with sunroof is also an option for me.

rkelly

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993kimbo said:
Do you and you dad go out for drives together? That must be great fun. Most Dads have Skodas.
Hi 993kimbo,

We do indeed mate, great fun it is too smile

rkelly

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Paddy_N_Murphy said:
Cheers Ryan - noisier because of wind noise ? Or rattles and squeaks ?
A nice C2 with sunroof is also an option for me.
Hi Paddy, I was thinking noisier when the roof is closed. I think most of the noise/rattles comes from the sun blind? My dads car is mint, there is only 26k miles on it so I think it an inherent part of the package. Perhaps the 997's are a bit quieter. It certainly wouldn't put me off.

Paddy_N_Murphy

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rkelly said:
Hi Paddy, I was thinking noisier when the roof is closed. I think most of the noise/rattles comes from the sun blind? My dads car is mint, there is only 26k miles on it so I think it an inherent part of the package. Perhaps the 997's are a bit quieter. It certainly wouldn't put me off.
Yes - I was / am concerned it is a 'roof closed' issue - interesting you think it may be the blind.
I am scouring the classified to find some or one vaguely local.
I am in North Yorkshire - there are two nice looking, good history, low miler's in ........................ Devon frown

dazco

3,781 posts

75 months

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I had a 997 Targa and I loved it. The 'hatchback' was used several times a day.

There was not one rattle or squeak from the roof and the only two disadvantages I can think of is that you cannot see out of your rear view mirror when the roof is down and if a tallish person is in the back the roof can hit then in the head, if you open it.

I think so much of that car that if I was in the market for a Porsche I would actively seek it out.

Go for it.

EDIT:
Two more things, it became a different car when I put PSE on it, bloody lovely, and I had trouble selling it because it had no Sat-Nav.

Edited by dazco on Sunday 7th October 18:14

Paddy_N_Murphy

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Cheers, they do seem to be a very Marmite Flavoured choice Of Pork smile

dazco

3,781 posts

75 months

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Paddy_N_Murphy said:
Cheers, they do seem to be a very Marmite Flavoured choice Of Pork smile
I like them because the roof line and trim line reminds me of more traditional 911's, but everyone on on here would probably disagree with me biggrin

TheBMWDriver

297 posts

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Hi,

I have a 997 Targa4, Its can rattle a little when going over a very bumpy road but other then that its fine.

They are lovely cars

Paddy_N_Murphy

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This was kinda what I was asking the chap.
Is it like a scuttle shake on the bumpies? When pressing on ?

He suggested more of a noticeable noise and rattle even cruising down a backstreet in town at 30.

Seemed odd that Porsche would release such a vehicle if so compromised to be honest.

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