Cayman owners ( well, anyone really), advice please?

[mountainreef]

Actus Reus said:

Was on my phone so was brief - that is what I'd prefer I think, I find a manual more engaging, but spent two hours crawling to and from Bayswater yesterday, and PDK would have been so much nicer IMHO, and, for me, doesn't ruin the weekend fun thing.

Personally I think the OP should wait til Spring and 981 launch now anyway - I'll look at my options next year too, and reckon CR might be in range by then thanks to 981 launch.

The 981 Cayman S will be about £70k i fear!

I saw a fabulous Cayman R at Colchester Porsche last week but it has no aircon, no radio?

[mountainreef]

Raitzi said:

PDK and install FVD ecu mod to "enable" sports button.

Have you any info on this wonderous thing?

[Actus Reus]

mountainreef said:

The 981 Cayman S will be about £70k i fear!

I saw a fabulous Cayman R at Colchester Porsche last week but it has no aircon, no radio?

Peridot green with PCCB? Former press car, that. And I reckon base Cayman S will be 55k-ish.

[itsybitsy]

why wait for the new cayman it will have more weight and less power than a cr that ugly boxster 981 rear end and cost £60k.much rather have the better looking cr at circa £45k,its even better value than a 4 year old 58plate 997.
i am in the manual with pse corner but add to that short shift and sports chrono. pdk is a no no for me

Edited by itsybitsy on Monday 8th October 15:44

Edited by itsybitsy on Monday 8th October 15:48

[mountainreef]

Actus Reus said:

Peridot green with PCCB? Former press car, that. And I reckon base Cayman S will be 55k-ish.

That's the one! I could even get used to the bogey green if it had radio. Not in the race spirit i know

[mountainreef]

itsybitsy said:

why wait for the new cayman it will have more weight and less power than a cr that ugly boxster 981 rear end and cost £60k.much rather have the better looking cr at circa £45k,its even better value than a 4 year old 58plate 997.
i am in the manual with pse corner but add to that short shift and sports chrono pdk is a no no for me

Edited by itsybitsy on Monday 8th October 15:44

Ha I'm so impulsive / impatient that I've convinced myself (and SWMBO)that i need to trade in the car soon as poss so to maximise the px value

[Output Flange]

PSE, SC and PDK

The PDK box is perfectly fine around town, and the 7th gear gives a nice bump to economy on a cruise.

You'll get plenty of people bleating on about missing the engagement of the manual box - but unless you're so st at changing gear that each successful gearchange is cause for celebration, you really won't miss it.

Personally I'm not a huge fan of the Sport throttle mapping - 100% of throttle opening in about 50% of movement becomes a bit of a pain in most situations.

Otherwise, it works nicely.

[Raitzi]

mountainreef said:

Have you any info on this wonderous thing?

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[mountainreef]

Thank you

[Ian_UK1]

Raitzi said:

PDK and install FVD ecu mod to "enable" sports button.

I thought you could now have the Sport / Sport Plus buttons and functionality retro-installed by your OPC - without the Sports Chrono wart - on any 9*7. For a PDK car, it gives you the quick throttle-response mapping, faster gearchange mapping, backed-off PSM settings and LC functions. And you can still put a warranty on the car if you wish.

[Raitzi]

Ian_UK1 said:

I thought you could now have the Sport / Sport Plus buttons and functionality retro-installed by your OPC - without the Sports Chrono wart - on any 9*7. For a PDK car, it gives you the quick throttle-response mapping, faster gearchange mapping, backed-off PSM settings and LC functions. And you can still put a warranty on the car if you wish.

Well it is not the same program but I would say much better than Porsche gives you. Warranty is of course gone after this.

[spyderman8]

Raitzi said:

Well it is not the same program but I would say much better than Porsche gives you. Warranty is of course gone after this.

Not if an OPC fits it.

[gsewell]

According to the Reading OPC, they can retro fit the Porsche Sport Mode Software (part number 9X7SM) for around £750. Which, considering the only gain I can see is better throttle response but no more power, and without the PSE or PDK would make very little difference to my mind. But everyone has their own point of view.

[Ian_UK1]

gsewell said:

According to the Reading OPC, they can retro fit the Porsche Sport Mode Software (part number 9X7SM) for around £750. Which, considering the only gain I can see is better throttle response but no more power, and without the PSE or PDK would make very little difference to my mind. But everyone has their own point of view.

This ^^^^

It is less useful on a manual car as there's none of the (frankly essential) faster / hold-on-to-the-ratios-longer gearshift strategies you get with PDK. However, it's not 'just' the faster throttle map you get with a manual, you also get the less intrusive PSM settings. If you drive your car near/on/past the limit (hopefully not on a public road) this can make a huge difference.

[sootyvrs]

Ian_UK1 said:

However, it's not 'just' the faster throttle map you get with a manual, you also get the less intrusive PSM settings. If you drive your car near/on/past the limit (hopefully not on a public road) this can make a huge difference.

I assume you also get the "harder" red line feature

[gsewell]

Thanks Ian, Sooty,

You've just saved me some money. My co-driver thinks the car is crazy enough without having a less intrusive PSM and harder redline. My car is strictly road use - predominantly long distance touring.

[Triple8]

I bought a 2011 S manual a couple of months ago having tried both manual and PDK. I thought the PDK was great on maximum attack, but just didn't enjoy it as much when driving normally for some reason. I came out of an Elise though, so am probably more biased towards the manual - it's always going to be personal preference with these things.

Mine had pretty much everything I wanted but doesn't have a PSE - I'm toying with getting one (bought the car from an OPC, so want to keep the warranty). Has anyone had one retrofitted by an OPC? What sort of ballpark price are we looking at?

[Trev450]

Prices seem to vary between OPC's but have seen figures of between £1700 - £2300 quoted.

[Triple8]

Thanks Trev, will have to do some ringing round