Lovely little car.....

[Benjy911]

This is the picture it was from.

Edited by Benjy911 on Saturday 1st December 09:52

[mollytherocker]

Mmm. Me thinks auto farm may have a little explaining to do!

[shoestring7]

uktrailmonster said:

shoestring7 said:

Would a '72 'S' have had the upgraded interior, including seats with headrests? I can't see them on the early picture.

SS7

Headrests were an option, even on the S. My 73S had Recaros without headrests (Italian market)

The Italian market had massive taxes on cars based on the selling price, so no-one ordered a car with options. I bet all of the few rhd 'S' cars sold in the UK had headrests.

SS7

Edited by shoestring7 on Saturday 1st December 13:59

[nick-moss]

According to Autofarm regarding WMR 911K "Engine blew in 1977, Charles Ivey fitted a T engine that stayed in for 20 years!"

[bjmullan]

Benjy911 said:

http://www.autofarm.co.uk/items/102?back=%2Fsales

Here is an even more overpriced 911T (WMR 911K). It was my dad's first 911 which he had back in 1978 when it was a 911T.

It now appears to have transformed into "An original U.K. RHD 1972 2.4 911S Coupe, still in its original Blood Orange and on its original ‘911’ registration."

Looks like it was always an S not a T....just had a T engine fitted and rebadged.

"Previous 1972 2.4 911S engine/transmission re-fitted" is a bit vague though....guessing this is not the original numbers matching one? If it's not then saying previous 2.4 911S engine refitted is very misleading. If it is then that's fine of course.

[nick-moss]

The engine number 6321609 is surely not the original engine for such an early chassis number. I understand all these pictures and details are in the history file, so any prospective purchaser can check it out for himself. Don't forget it's a race car not a concours contender. BTW I have no connection with the car, I just had the decency to contact the seller to ask the questions. Except I may have refurbished the rims a few years ago.

[blue72s]

Benjy,
When your dad had the 911 back in 1978, did it have a sunroof?

[graemel]

nick-moss said:

According to Autofarm regarding WMR 911K "Engine blew in 1977, Charles Ivey fitted a T engine that stayed in for 20 years!"

Wll done for clearing the mystery up Nick. top man

[uktrailmonster]

shoestring7 said:

uktrailmonster said:

shoestring7 said:

Would a '72 'S' have had the upgraded interior, including seats with headrests? I can't see them on the early picture.

SS7

Headrests were an option, even on the S. My 73S had Recaros without headrests (Italian market)

The Italian market had massive taxes on cars based on the selling price, so no-one ordered a car with options. I bet all of the few rhd 'S' cars sold in the UK had headrests.

SS7

Edited by shoestring7 on Saturday 1st December 13:59

Maybe, but headrests were factory option M258 on all variants. My Italian car was pretty minimalist on options and all the better for it. Didn't even have a radio.

[Benjy911]

Yes ... it had a sunroof.

[mikial]

I had this, a long time ago !

Two litre "E" LHD, I think it was a 1968 model, purchase price circa 1975 was £1200, the oil filler was accessible only from the inside of the engine cover whereas the later models (2.2) had a flap positioned on the rear flank for easier access, similar to a fuel filler flap. My previous car was a 1972 454 manual Corvette , chalk and cheese you could say.

[shoestring7]

mikial said:

I had this, a long time ago !

Two litre "E" LHD, I think it was a 1968 model, purchase price circa 1975 was £1200, the oil filler was accessible only from the inside of the engine cover whereas the later models (2.2) had a flap positioned on the rear flank for easier access, similar to a fuel filler flap. My previous car was a 1972 454 manual Corvette , chalk and cheese you could say.

Lovely car, is 'H' a 1969/70 reg plate?

BTW the external oil filler lasted one year only (1972, the 2.4l) because (the story goes) too many septic pump jockeys filled the oil tank with 'gas'.

SS7

[mikial]

shoestring7 said:

mikial said:

I had this, a long time ago !

Two litre "E" LHD, I think it was a 1968 model, purchase price circa 1975 was £1200, the oil filler was accessible only from the inside of the engine cover whereas the later models (2.2) had a flap positioned on the rear flank for easier access, similar to a fuel filler flap. My previous car was a 1972 454 manual Corvette , chalk and cheese you could say.

Lovely car, is 'H' a 1969/70 reg plate?

BTW the external oil filler lasted one year only (1972, the 2.4l) because (the story goes) too many septic pump jockeys filled the oil tank with 'gas'.

SS7

As I remember H was 1968 , registrations ran from January to January back then. I think there`s truth in that story.

Also am mistaken stating it was a two litre , on reflection I think it was a 2.2 and as you say the later models were 2.4.

[mikial]

mikial said:

shoestring7 said:

mikial said:

I had this, a long time ago !

Two litre "E" LHD, I think it was a 1968 model, purchase price circa 1975 was £1200, the oil filler was accessible only from the inside of the engine cover whereas the later models (2.2) had a flap positioned on the rear flank for easier access, similar to a fuel filler flap. My previous car was a 1972 454 manual Corvette , chalk and cheese you could say.

Lovely car, is 'H' a 1969/70 reg plate?

BTW the external oil filler lasted one year only (1972, the 2.4l) because (the story goes) too many septic pump jockeys filled the oil tank with 'gas'.

SS7

As I remember H was 1968 , registrations ran from January to January back then. I think there`s truth in that story.

Also am mistaken stating it was a two litre , on reflection I think it was a 2.2 and as you say the later models were 2.4.

I reckon these pump jockeys were responsible.

[shoestring7]

mikial said:

shoestring7 said:

mikial said:

I had this, a long time ago !

Two litre "E" LHD, I think it was a 1968 model, purchase price circa 1975 was £1200, the oil filler was accessible only from the inside of the engine cover whereas the later models (2.2) had a flap positioned on the rear flank for easier access, similar to a fuel filler flap. My previous car was a 1972 454 manual Corvette , chalk and cheese you could say.

Lovely car, is 'H' a 1969/70 reg plate?

BTW the external oil filler lasted one year only (1972, the 2.4l) because (the story goes) too many septic pump jockeys filled the oil tank with 'gas'.

SS7

As I remember H was 1968 , registrations ran from January to January back then. I think there`s truth in that story.

Also am mistaken stating it was a two litre , on reflection I think it was a 2.2 and as you say the later models were 2.4.

From the DVLA pdf: H: Aug 1969 - July 1970. I only know this because my first car was a '70 on an H, not because I'm some sort of reg. geek!

However yours could easily have been registered sometime after the build date for any number of reasons.

SS7
{https://www.dvla.gov.uk/dvla/forms/~/.../suffix_prefix_marks.ashx}

[uktrailmonster]

shoestring7 said:

BTW the external oil filler lasted one year only (1972, the 2.4l) because (the story goes) too many septic pump jockeys filled the oil tank with 'gas'.

SS7

Yep, that's correct. The '73 2.4 reverted back to the previous internal oil tank config for the above reason. There were not many self-serve petrol stations back in those days, so I would imagine it was a problem in the UK too.

[mikial]

shoestring7 said:

mikial said:

shoestring7 said:

mikial said:

I had this, a long time ago !

Two litre "E" LHD, I think it was a 1968 model, purchase price circa 1975 was £1200, the oil filler was accessible only from the inside of the engine cover whereas the later models (2.2) had a flap positioned on the rear flank for easier access, similar to a fuel filler flap. My previous car was a 1972 454 manual Corvette , chalk and cheese you could say.

Lovely car, is 'H' a 1969/70 reg plate?

BTW the external oil filler lasted one year only (1972, the 2.4l) because (the story goes) too many septic pump jockeys filled the oil tank with 'gas'.

SS7

As I remember H was 1968 , registrations ran from January to January back then. I think there`s truth in that story.

Also am mistaken stating it was a two litre , on reflection I think it was a 2.2 and as you say the later models were 2.4.

From the DVLA pdf: H: Aug 1969 - July 1970. I only know this because my first car was a '70 on an H, not because I'm some sort of reg. geek!

However yours could easily have been registered sometime after the build date for any number of reasons.

SS7
{https://www.dvla.gov.uk/dvla/forms/~/.../suffix_prefix_marks.ashx}

I see that the January to January registration period was replaced in 1967, ... I stand corrected , I`ll just find a dark corner and rest awhile

[Benjy911]

Looks like WMR 911K is back up for sale!

Will be interesting to see what it makes.

http://www.historics.co.uk/buying/auctions/2014-08...

[dino_jr]

100k ! Wow.

I have mentioned this '73 T before... A third of the cost:
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...

Although I assume the mileage is missing a 1 in front?

[hot66]

You can't really compare the price of a T to that of a 2.4s .... Just in the same way a 2.7rs is again in another price league

Saying that, any RHD 2.4 targa is a very rare car