Porsche Cayenne with 10k budget?

Porsche Cayenne with 10k budget?

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davek_964

8,828 posts

176 months

Friday 8th March 2013
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hadenough! said:
But when there's only a couple of k between the two...
Actually, we're talking about 50% more than an £8k V8.

davek_964

8,828 posts

176 months

Saturday 30th March 2013
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Today, suddenly somewhat less impressed with the budget Cayenne...

Overtook somebody on a single carriageway road, and as I pulled back in, realised the car wanted to carry on going left straight into the undergrowth. Took a second to realise I suddenly had no power steering, and a second later the alternator light came on.

Unless you've ever tried it, you have no idea how hard it is to steer these cars without assistance!

I assumed a snapped belt, so turned around to head home, but quickly discovered the alternator / power steering belt is also the water pump belt etc. Car was getting a tad warn so recovered home.

Removed the air intake pipes to find not only a shredded belt, but one of the pulleys looks like somebody has been biting chunks out of one side. Great.

I'm not sure I have the time or inclination to do this myself right now, so will give 9E a call on Tuesday. Since I was already recovered once, I guess I'll be paying to get it there too. frown

Champhill

4,093 posts

139 months

Saturday 30th March 2013
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Oh bad luck fellafrown Hope it's not too much to fix it.

hadenough!

3,785 posts

261 months

Saturday 30th March 2013
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stter, it's the risk you run with these cars though. At least you didn't boil it.

davek_964

8,828 posts

176 months

Sunday 31st March 2013
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I decided I shouldn't be lazy - since it's a long weekend, I should replace the belt myself.

Made some calls yesterday, but Guildford / Reading OPCs did not have a belt in stock (seems it would be £114 if they did though). But I thought I would at least do some preparation - one of the pulleys had threads from the belt tightly wound around it, so got rid of that this morning (one thread at a time!).

Then decided to remove the broken pulley - but this has been unsuccessful. I removed the 3 bolts which I assume hold it on, but it absolutely refuses to budge. I can just about get both hands down there but it will not move. Even attempting to lever it out by using a large screwdriver between the pulley and the engine body just results in a few more bits breaking off of an already broken pulley.

I have no idea what is holding it on, but I think it's going to force me to get the car taken to 9E. Very frustrating.

You can just about see how broken the pulley is in this pic.


5678

6,146 posts

228 months

Tuesday 2nd April 2013
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Nightmare.

I'm following this thread with interest as I'm keen to see the real world risks of buying a used ("cheap"!) Cayenne.

davek_964

8,828 posts

176 months

Tuesday 2nd April 2013
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Mine will be collected by a transporter and taken to 9E tomorrow morning.

Although I like the car very much - at the moment, I am extremely unhappy with it. I paid a fortune to have everything sorted with it, and about 6 weeks later it left me stranded at the side of the road - and another healthy bill awaits I'm sure.

To put it in perspective - the 20 year old Ferrari I owned for 16 months before buying my Cayenne - cost me considerably less in that entire time than the Cayenne has cost me in under 3 months.

I am not happy, and once this is fixed it needs to start behaving itself.

5678

6,146 posts

228 months

Tuesday 2nd April 2013
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davek_964 said:
Mine will be collected by a transporter and taken to 9E tomorrow morning.

Although I like the car very much - at the moment, I am extremely unhappy with it. I paid a fortune to have everything sorted with it, and about 6 weeks later it left me stranded at the side of the road - and another healthy bill awaits I'm sure.

To put it in perspective - the 20 year old Ferrari I owned for 16 months before buying my Cayenne - cost me considerably less in that entire time than the Cayenne has cost me in under 3 months.

I am not happy, and once this is fixed it needs to start behaving itself.
I think most people would feel the same!

It's one of these or a similarly aged Range Rover on my radar.

davek_964

8,828 posts

176 months

Tuesday 2nd April 2013
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5678 said:
I think most people would feel the same!

It's one of these or a similarly aged Range Rover on my radar.
I've never driven a RR, but I will make one positive comment about the Cayenne (which might be the last one mine ever gets!) :

They are fun. Which I did not expect - I thought I was buying a boring 4x4 - even if it made a little more power than most, let's face it - it's still the size of a bus. But that's really not the case - you can trundle around in comfort most of the time, and if you see a twisty road it's still a huge amount of fun. I never thought I would find myself approaching a twisty road in the Cayenne and disappointed because there was a slow car in my way.

It manages to be very capable, without being at all boring. So generally, I think they are pretty amazing cars. Mine seems to be amazing for a slightly different reason.

ispcarsurvey

103 posts

221 months

Tuesday 2nd April 2013
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A very interesting read, thanks for posting all the info. Looked at a couple over the weekend and pretty convinced that vs a 5 series touring or A6 avant, this could fill the family car slot. Now just to find a good one with all the main bits sorted...

BIRMA

3,810 posts

195 months

Tuesday 2nd April 2013
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Sorry to hear your problems with the Cayenne and it's a good eye opener, I started to look at cheaper Turbos as I have decided that I prefer to have a big 4X4 having tried a CLS63 AMG and a Maserati Quattroporte and didn't think that much of them overall. I think the Cayenne will fit the bill as I only do about 6000 miles a year. As with all things I started off looking at £14K Turbos and have now decided to really up my budget and get one of the animal Turbo S's that they made in 2006. Having read your post I am looking for a full main dealer history now although I think provision will still have to be made for upgrading coolant pipes.

davek_964

8,828 posts

176 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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Mine got transported to 9E this morning. Pulley and belt are on order - should hopefully turn up by the end of the week (I imagine the pulley will start it's life in Germany).

Thanks to 9E as usual - very quick response, even though I know they're very busy.

Initial check shows it got hot enough that the coolant level has dropped. Once the pulley and belt are on, we'll see if it has any more permanent issues.

Anybody want to buy a 4.5S Cayenne? One careful owner..... wink

DH01

820 posts

169 months

Wednesday 3rd April 2013
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Tensioner seized on mine at about 60,000 miles, threw the belt off and made for an 'interesting' few minutes before I could stop. I hope yours turns out to be an easy fix, should be with the experts on the job ! Keep the faith .

RC1

4,101 posts

220 months

Thursday 4th April 2013
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david any thoughts as to what may have caused the premature wear on pulley and belt or is it something that is a known weakspot?

davek_964

8,828 posts

176 months

Thursday 4th April 2013
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RC1 said:
david any thoughts as to what may have caused the premature wear on pulley and belt or is it something that is a known weakspot?
To be honest, I don't think it was premature.

I didn't call OPC about the replacement - g/f did - but she said that Porsche said 80k miles is the time the belt should be inspected for wear.

I have no idea if mine has ever been changed, but the car has just rolled over 84k and car is 10 years old so it's probably well due. However - I assume it was fine when I had my service because I had my water pump replaced so any signs of wear would have been noticed when that was done.

I am sure the belt destroyed the pulley - they only seem to be fairly thin alloy and the fins even seem to be plastic. In fact, I suspect I had warnings that my belt was failing for the week before. I heard a light tapping sound - exactly like you'd hear if you had a screw in your tyre. I checked the front left tyre (sounded like it was coming from the front left) but couldn't find anything. It did get quicker when I accelerated - but strangely, stopped when I took my foot off the accelerator. And a day later disappeared altogether.

But now, I wonder if it was bits of the belt gradually shredding.

David W.

1,912 posts

210 months

Thursday 4th April 2013
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A rubber belt under tension for 10yrs has got to have exceeded its expected service life.
dw

davek_964

8,828 posts

176 months

Tuesday 9th April 2013
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Collected the car this afternoon.

James / 9E reckon it's more likely the pulley went first and the belt was a victim of that, rather than the other way around.

What's slightly funny is I asked him how he got the broken pulley off. This is after I tried and failed several times, including soaking it in WD40 overnight on Sunday - it was still stuck fast on Monday morning, hence I gave up and had it transported to them. He said it came off very easily - basically because the WD40 had a couple more days to work into the corrosion!

Slightly frustrating - I knew that replacing the belt / pulley should have been pretty easy and I was trying to avoid the extra expense of transportation and labour. As it turns out, I made it easy to get the pulley off but still paid for transportation + labour. Hmmm - not quite to plan then!

Still, the bill was not bad at all especially as it included about 45 miles transport.

Car had better start behaving itself now...

davek_964

8,828 posts

176 months

Friday 26th April 2013
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Filled up last night - got a pretty impressive 377 miles out of the previous tank. smile

Admittedly the computer (and fuel gauge) were suggesting I wouldn't have got much further, but I was pretty happy with that - £119 to fill up with Momentum at Tesco.

The downside is that I only achieved that because I've had to do a lot of long journeys this week, and my total fuel cost for the last 7 days has actually been just under £400. Which would be bad enough, but one of those days I used my other car!

Still, the car has behaved itself since I collected it. I still find I feel a bit less positive about it than I did before it broke down - but I imagine that will wear off, and is probably also partly due to the fact that the weather has warmed up and it's more tempting to take my turbo.

SEE YA

3,522 posts

246 months

Friday 26th April 2013
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This topic has been good for me, as I looking to buy one maybe after we move house.

bimjim

251 posts

164 months

Friday 26th April 2013
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If anyone's interested, and hasn't been put off by this thread, I'm thinking of putting mine up for sale in the coming weeks.

A 2003 Turbo, which has been well looked after.