Porsche Cayenne with 10k budget?
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bigee said:
Anything 'major'? Or just lots of 'niggles'...complicated beasts these Cayennes !
A couple of "majors".The main one is the suspension - which is over 40% of the cost. When I viewed the car, it was parked half way up a kerb. I genuinely believe this was not to try and hide the problem (the seller had more cars than driveway space) - but it does mean I never really checked the car sat level. Even if I'd had that opportunity, sometimes it does sit level so maybe I wouldn't have noticed. But anyway - occasionally, the LHS sits a few mm lower than the RHS. Interestingly, the fault is actually on the RHS - the front is leaking (air suspension). Not sure why that would make it higher than the LHS - maybe the pump is over-compensating.
Brakes are the other one - the discs are well worn. I did know that when I bought it - and I really should do it myself, but I'd prefer to wait until spring when it's a bit warmer outside to work on the car. But they really do need doing now, and the labour isn't the significant part of the cost for brakes anyway. But combined with the suspension, we're probably up to about 65% of the cost now.
Water pump is leaking - common problem with these I think.
Window regulator I already mentioned - part is actually a bargain (half what I paid for my 996 turbo one I fitted over Christmas) but they're complicated to fit so it adds to the labour charge a bit.
Some other minor niggles - for example, I noticed after I bought the car that the driver side rear door microswitch was a bit intermittent - means when I open (just) that door, the lights will sometimes flicker on / off - and if it's the only door I open after unlocking the car then the car will sometimes lock itself a few seconds later. I could live with that for a while - except I've read threads where it sticks the other way and you end up with interior lights on and "door open" gong sounding when you're driving along. Obviously don't want that, so probably needs a new door latch.
Although it's turned into a rather expensive lesson - I am actually less bothered by it than I would have thought. The suspension is a pain, but it's just one of those things. Brakes are simply service items - I accepted they needed doing when I bought the car. Window regulator was simply bad luck - it snapped a couple of weeks after I bought the car, but that could happen to anybody. The niggles etc. are just sorting out what the previous owner put up with.
Plus, I'm very happy with how thoroughly 9E went through the car - when I get it back, it means I am confident the car should be sorted for some time (obviously you can't predict when window regulators etc. are going to fail, but at least I should know there is nothing fundamentally wrong with the car).
Crimp a Length! said:
Mental running costs i looked into buying one a couple of years ago and couldn't justify plus i didn't want the worry of the little irritating electrical problems and other issues on the older ones especially if you're buying on a budget
I bought a Touareg in the end as i favoured a diesel. I have since got rid of that aswell 21-22mpg my missus was getting and thats a diesel!!
A friend of mine has a 3.2 KN and he gets 12-15mpg
12-15 mpg out of the 3.2, Holly sI bought a Touareg in the end as i favoured a diesel. I have since got rid of that aswell 21-22mpg my missus was getting and thats a diesel!!
A friend of mine has a 3.2 KN and he gets 12-15mpg
t I have been planning on getting a Cayenne v8 with air susp for some time as our ml280 is a pig of a car around town. Ok on long trips and 30 plus mpg but just too wallowy In normal use. Its a bit Like being on a bouncy castle.It doesn't do many miles but I couldn't stomach that unless the price was right.
Waiting for the later shape 2007 on to come down to £14 k and then I may take the plunge.
Decided I wasn't spending enough..... now getting some paint done while it's at 9E too (drivers side rear door).
Means I probably won't see it again for almost 2 weeks - and once I do I can't afford to drive it anyway - but it will look nice.
I have come to the conclusion that the problem isn't just that I didn't check the car over properly when I bought. That certainly accounts for some of the cost - but the suspension and water pump are the main things I was unaware of, and although the suspension is expensive it still leaves quite an expensive list of "other stuff".
My plan when buying a Cayenne was that it would be my "don't care" car. Don't care where I park - I can live with the odd door ding, don't care if non-essential stuff breaks - only problems that would ultimately be terminal or were really annoying would be fixed. But the reality is, I don't like my cars being broken so as soon as I have a list of stuff it's too easy to say "fix it all". It seems I won't really be neglecting it quite as much as I'd planned.
Still - if / when I get tired of it and decide to sell, at least I can say "no expense spared"!
Means I probably won't see it again for almost 2 weeks - and once I do I can't afford to drive it anyway - but it will look nice.
I have come to the conclusion that the problem isn't just that I didn't check the car over properly when I bought. That certainly accounts for some of the cost - but the suspension and water pump are the main things I was unaware of, and although the suspension is expensive it still leaves quite an expensive list of "other stuff".
My plan when buying a Cayenne was that it would be my "don't care" car. Don't care where I park - I can live with the odd door ding, don't care if non-essential stuff breaks - only problems that would ultimately be terminal or were really annoying would be fixed. But the reality is, I don't like my cars being broken so as soon as I have a list of stuff it's too easy to say "fix it all". It seems I won't really be neglecting it quite as much as I'd planned.
Still - if / when I get tired of it and decide to sell, at least I can say "no expense spared"!
steve1 said:
Come on then, which is the one to go for, don't forget the 10K budget.
If I was still shopping for one, I'd be going to see this :http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
Seems like a very good price for a turbo.
davek_964 said:
steve1 said:
Come on then, which is the one to go for, don't forget the 10K budget.
If I was still shopping for one, I'd be going to see this :http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
Seems like a very good price for a turbo.
Porkupine said:
steve1 said:
I probably would agree with you, but would I miss the extra 100 ponies.
You won't miss them as you haven't had them. If you drive a turbo, there is no turning back!! So think carefully before test driving. For me - turbo all the way!At £10k, if the car checked out - I'd be tempted by that turbo. But with most starting around the £12-13k mark, if I was buying again I'd still be looking at the S.
Of course the turbo is the better car and would be nicer to have but at the end of day you primarily buy these cars not for hooning but a comfortable functional car. So would be looking at the best condition car in my budget.
Also for £10k you would maybe get an 03 turbo or an 05/06 cayenne s.
From what I have seen there aren't many good examples at this price range.
Also for £10k you would maybe get an 03 turbo or an 05/06 cayenne s.
From what I have seen there aren't many good examples at this price range.
I'm about six weeks in with a 05MY Turbo, deals are out there if you keep looking and are patient, typically once I'd sold my old car and starting seriously looking for a Cayenne it seemed that there was a shortage of sensibly priced cars. Get the autotrader alerts set up, so you get notified of any new cars that come on.
It is a very good car, and the performance is something else, you get all the options on the turbo, not to mention the alcantara headlining which really gives the interior a feel of luxury combined with all the leather.
Lots of good info on here regarding known issues, but the old rule applies you are buying a car that cost close on £100k when new, so go in with your eyes open as there could be some big bills with it as the replacement parts haven't depreciated the same as the original purchase price.
I'm getting 20mpg average with my 75 mile commute, filling the tank up from empty is always an experience, your standing there thinking "how much!"
enjoy.
It is a very good car, and the performance is something else, you get all the options on the turbo, not to mention the alcantara headlining which really gives the interior a feel of luxury combined with all the leather.
Lots of good info on here regarding known issues, but the old rule applies you are buying a car that cost close on £100k when new, so go in with your eyes open as there could be some big bills with it as the replacement parts haven't depreciated the same as the original purchase price.
I'm getting 20mpg average with my 75 mile commute, filling the tank up from empty is always an experience, your standing there thinking "how much!"
enjoy.
4 months into Turbo ownership and all's good
looked for a very long time (on the quite mind you) misses wanted an Audi A3 ....... no chance !!
Unreal machine, powerkit fitted so an extra 150 bhp over an S.
Only real downside i found is electric folding mirror's fold in prior to getting out of the car !! does not make sense, and the oil useage is on the high side but sorted with 5/40 against 0/40.
Only failure was the most important switch of all.................................... the fuel flap release switch £30 ish from the stealers
It's so sure footed in all conditions and in the right mood a complete weapon.
looked for a very long time (on the quite mind you) misses wanted an Audi A3 ....... no chance !!
Unreal machine, powerkit fitted so an extra 150 bhp over an S.
Only real downside i found is electric folding mirror's fold in prior to getting out of the car !! does not make sense, and the oil useage is on the high side but sorted with 5/40 against 0/40.
Only failure was the most important switch of all.................................... the fuel flap release switch £30 ish from the stealers
It's so sure footed in all conditions and in the right mood a complete weapon.
My sub-£10k Cayenne is back - picked it up from 9E this afternoon. Although I can't really claim it's sub-£10k anymore!
It's a credit to 9E that despite the bill being fairly hefty, it was pretty much exactly what I was expecting so no nasty surprise. I still cried a bit when they told me the total though!
For those wondering what a sub-£10k Cayenne might need, mine has just had :
Major service including plugs and coil packs
New air suspension bag and valve on offside front
Window regulator for passenger front window
Water pump
Brake discs and pads all round
New boot struts fitted
Some minor bits (exhaust clamps, a switch etc.)
And I had a bit of paint
Ironically, my "cheap" car has just presented me with the most expensive service bill I've ever had. Beats any service I had on my 964, my 996 turbo or the 348 I had last year (although that's a bit unfair because I serviced the 348 myself).
Still - I still had a smile on the way home. Got a clear run on my favourite local road, and although I had to take it a bit easy due to new brakes it was pretty fun. Suspension on "sport" and set to low mode - it really was a blast!
Now, off to soak some bread in a bit of water - that's going to be dinner for the next few weeks!
It's a credit to 9E that despite the bill being fairly hefty, it was pretty much exactly what I was expecting so no nasty surprise. I still cried a bit when they told me the total though!
For those wondering what a sub-£10k Cayenne might need, mine has just had :
Major service including plugs and coil packs
New air suspension bag and valve on offside front
Window regulator for passenger front window
Water pump
Brake discs and pads all round
New boot struts fitted
Some minor bits (exhaust clamps, a switch etc.)
And I had a bit of paint
Ironically, my "cheap" car has just presented me with the most expensive service bill I've ever had. Beats any service I had on my 964, my 996 turbo or the 348 I had last year (although that's a bit unfair because I serviced the 348 myself).
Still - I still had a smile on the way home. Got a clear run on my favourite local road, and although I had to take it a bit easy due to new brakes it was pretty fun. Suspension on "sport" and set to low mode - it really was a blast!
Now, off to soak some bread in a bit of water - that's going to be dinner for the next few weeks!
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