Prospective 991 GT3 Owners Discussion
Discussion
pete a said:
Why do you have such a deep deep blind love for a car that you don't even have yet and will hear no bad things about, I expect it will be a very quick car once it's done but you do come across a bit like a child with their fingers in their ears blowing raspberrys when any critisicism is aired in regards te 991 gt3.
I think thats a bit harsh. The guy is obviously just excited about the car and cant wait. We would be the same wouldnt we?Whatever we think about this car, its got to be one of the most anticipated new cars for some time, proven by the size of this thread!
mollytherocker said:
I think thats a bit harsh. The guy is obviously just excited about the car and cant wait. We would be the same wouldnt we?
Whatever we think about this car, its got to be one of the most anticipated new cars for some time, proven by the size of this thread!
Honestly I am past my "excitement peak".. And descending into boredom. This delay in production and the lack of news from Porsche on allocation is starting to annoy me. Whatever we think about this car, its got to be one of the most anticipated new cars for some time, proven by the size of this thread!
Especially as I have now sold the 991 s (16.6pct depreciation in 1yr 8k miles - bought slightly used with 2k miles on, very big spec) and the Elise.. so am car-less for the first time in 5 yrs.
Am keeping myself busy deciding what daily small car to buy. Golf vi GTI seems to be at top of the list at the moment.
This story of the revised engine being able to take 10krpm and develop 500+ hp sounds utter BS to me btw. As the fact that people "know" what is wrong with the car.. Seriously, would Porsche really allow leaks of the story to get out from a sub-team of ultra specialised GT techs ? I don't think so.
For all we know it could be that the real spoiler plastic is bubbling, or the front grills discolour in the sun.. I would think that these guys have been testing the engine for million of miles in mules over the last few years.. Not a bunch of journos who will uncover faults by revving it like it's supposed to..
mollytherocker said:
Sticking with the old Mezger in the racing 991's is looking like it was the right decision!
Before writing off the 9A1 it's worth remembering the Mezger wasn't completely without problems either. We have to accept the harder you tune an engine and push it's boundaries the more chance of a part failing or wearing prematurely or even needing additional servicing. I don't believe the internet rumour of rods exiting the crank-case but the more i read of it it sounds like Porsche have decided to 'upgrade' a certain part/s as a precautionary. Porsche must be close to limit with 500hp - could it be time to move to 8 cylinders? 
pete a said:
Why do you have such a deep deep blind love for a car that you don't even have yet and will hear no bad things about, I expect it will be a very quick car once it's done but you do come across a bit like a child with their fingers in their ears blowing raspberrys when any critisicism is aired in regards te 991 gt3.
It is called optimism, a close relative of enthusiasm. This is something that you lack, therefore maybe you should think about whether you add anything with cynical comments on an enthusiasts site. mollytherocker said:
I think thats a bit harsh. The guy is obviously just excited about the car and cant wait. We would be the same wouldnt we?
Whatever we think about this car, its got to be one of the most anticipated new cars for some time, proven by the size of this thread!
No offence taken!Whatever we think about this car, its got to be one of the most anticipated new cars for some time, proven by the size of this thread!
Yes I'm extremely enthusiastic about this car, but primarily it's about trying to keep the thread up to date with genuine news rather than negative and unsubstantiated gossip!
shavenhaven said:
We have to accept the harder you tune an engine and push it's boundaries the more chance of a part failing or wearing prematurely or even needing additional servicing.
I can't see that Porsche would permit 9K with a MT. PDK permits a narrower margin of safety due to managed down shifting.Not sure I believe the 'exploding rods' re test mules, but it would appear Porsche are cutting it fine based on news of premature fatigue, hence production delays.
And due to PDK, we know none of these test cars have exceeded 9K. Whereas how many Mezger->GT1->GT3 - all MT - have been buzzed into 5-figures through testing, racing, and severely fluffed human down shifts?
sidicks said:
No offence taken!
Yes I'm extremely enthusiastic about this car, but primarily it's about trying to keep the thread up to date with genuine news rather than negative and unsubstantiated gossip!
Clearly there's afire line between positive enthusiasm and slavish devotion. Genuine news? This thread revolves around colour choice and deviated stitching, whatever that is. Does it improve ones car?Yes I'm extremely enthusiastic about this car, but primarily it's about trying to keep the thread up to date with genuine news rather than negative and unsubstantiated gossip!
Surely if there is a problem with a car at this late stage the onus is solving the problem with minimal outlay and disruption to the bottom line?
AdYa said:
Clearly there's afire line between positive enthusiasm and slavish devotion. Genuine news? This thread revolves around colour choice and deviated stitching, whatever that is. Does it improve ones car?
Until people have their cars, what do you expect them to discuss? But clearly ownership is enhanced if you choose the right spec, and colour choice is a key part of that!Once the cars have arrived, we'll be too busy driving them to post on here!
AdYa said:
Surely if there is a problem with a car at this late stage the onus is solving the problem with minimal outlay and disruption to the bottom line?
We will see - given the nature of this car, Porsche can't afford NOT to address this problem properly and if the same engine is being used in the RS then it is even more important that a robust solution is found - it might be more economical for those cars to share the 'enhanced' solution rather than try and 'make do' with the GT3.All will become clear in due course...
Edited by sidicks on Tuesday 15th October 14:02
rosino said:
This story of the revised engine being able to take 10krpm and develop 500+ hp sounds utter BS to me btw. As the fact that people "know" what is wrong with the car.. Seriously, would Porsche really allow leaks of the story to get out from a sub-team of ultra specialised GT techs ? I don't think so.
AndyBrew said:
No it doesn't revolve around that at all, it has been discussed along with many, many other topics.
Yes , it's been been a real pain wading through all that irrelevant crap , so I can concentrate on the important issues at large : i.e colour choice external and stitch ! 
RSVP911 said:
AndyBrew said:
No it doesn't revolve around that at all, it has been discussed along with many, many other topics.
Yes , it's been been a real pain wading through all that irrelevant crap , so I can concentrate on the important issues at large : i.e colour choice external and stitch ! Mermaid said:
RSVP911 said:
AndyBrew said:
No it doesn't revolve around that at all, it has been discussed along with many, many other topics.
Yes , it's been been a real pain wading through all that irrelevant crap , so I can concentrate on the important issues at large : i.e colour choice external and stitch ! Does the stitching have to match the exterior colour? Or is that a fashion faux pas?
This is far more important than some of the more minor issues - i.e chassis, steering, engine and gear box changes.
AdYa said:
Not everyone is in denial then
Does the stitching have to match the exterior colour? Or is that a fashion faux pas?
This is far more important than some of the more minor issues - i.e chassis, steering, engine and gear box changes.
Exactly Does the stitching have to match the exterior colour? Or is that a fashion faux pas?
This is far more important than some of the more minor issues - i.e chassis, steering, engine and gear box changes.
- I'd match the stitch colour to the callipers personally - but this view opens up a can of worms from a PCCB perspective - I think there are roughly 30 pages dedicated to this point - all very funny - Sidicks , please resist the temptation to bite on this Bottom line is IMHO we are all super lucky to be in a position to order one of these amazing cars and as such I just can't take the whole thing too seriously - I trust that Porsche have too much reputitional investment in the GT3 to let it go out with non fixable faults - it would not be good PR and they seem to be a company who take their PR very seriously. As such , I plan to relax and enjoy the journey and continue to post a banal irrelevant colour inspired post to lighten the mood when it all gets too serious Edited by RSVP911 on Tuesday 15th October 20:30
Edited by RSVP911 on Tuesday 15th October 20:30
Mermaid said:
Think of the hundreds who will suffer sloppy seconds.
av185 said:
Thanks, not seen that before.
Sounds awesome.......better than a 458 for sure!
I'm a massive fan of any flat six, but better than a 458 ? Really ? I mean, really ? ?Sounds awesome.......better than a 458 for sure!
This for your mouth :
These for your ears :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RY3u3vwnjjs
Edited by Slippydiff on Tuesday 15th October 20:41
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