Shell V-Power Nitro+
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Martian O said:
rigster2 said:
I appreciate that this has been done to death but Shell V Power is not manufactured and distributed under the similar agreement as normal Shell fuel.
V Power comes direct from the Refinery that blends it.
It's what i do.
My friend works for Shell and is involved with this fuel and the Ferrari F1 team. He assures me that it is distributed under the same agreement as regular Shell, i.e. the base fuel comes from the refinery and the Nitro+ additives are added to it. He also confirmed that Shell have no petrol/diesel refineries in the UK.V Power comes direct from the Refinery that blends it.
It's what i do.
rigster2 said:
......I run a fuel Terminal.
So do you know your beans Rigster or did you miss my answer from a few weeks ago?Berw said:
Do people understand oil companies? All fuel regardless of the seller is refined at a local refinery by who ever happens to own it, and shipped to the local tank farm of the particuler oil company who will label it and sell it, at that point they add the additives they want, do you really think that they have an addative that can significantly reduce friction any more than the 'snake oil' they sell at your local motor factors. Ocatane value in V Power is different 97 will give more power than 95, try using 105 Avgas and a remap, 107 adds 40BHP to my GTR engine compared to 97.
I will not use V power because if the car is left then when the benzine evaporates of it leaves all the additives behind in the fuel system and blocks all sorts of things, not such a big problem in the fuel injected Porsche but a huge problem on the webbers that are fitted to my 7s, Try leaving a little V power in a saucser and let it evaporate off and see what it leaves behind, may not be a true test but I avoid V power when ever I can.
Don't think 105 Avgas exists and the only stuff you'd want to be putting in a car which runs on V Power is the 85 or 82 stuff as the rest contains lead.I will not use V power because if the car is left then when the benzine evaporates of it leaves all the additives behind in the fuel system and blocks all sorts of things, not such a big problem in the fuel injected Porsche but a huge problem on the webbers that are fitted to my 7s, Try leaving a little V power in a saucser and let it evaporate off and see what it leaves behind, may not be a true test but I avoid V power when ever I can.
edcs said:
Don't think 105 Avgas exists and the only stuff you'd want to be putting in a car which runs on V Power is the 85 or 82 stuff as the rest contains lead.
The Avgas currently available in the UK is 101 Octane and contains lead. If you we're to run it in a modern car you would ruin the cat as the lead would react with the platinum that normally acts as the catalyst. I understand that some racers use it but their cars don't have cats.Ady128 said:
Well, I finally got around to using some in my 991 after having always buying Morrisons or Tescos regular unleaded. I can't tell the difference apart from the 50p a gallon dearer price, therefore I shall be going back to my usual.
From my anecdotal experience I'd say that it might need more than a single tank running through it before there's any noticeable difference. I picked my 996 up at the start of April and the dealer told me that it would run fine on regular unleaded - there was half a tank of that in it when I got it and I put in another tank or two afterwards. The car did, of course, run fine. I started putting this new v-power in it after reading this thread (and there's a Shell garage just down the road) and didn't notice any difference at all until halfway through tank 3; throttle response seems slightly sharper, it'll pull away from standing neater with less use of your right foot, and you can get a real bark from the exhaust when giving it some beans. The exhaust is what I really noticed about it - there's a real throatiness to it at 5k+ that I was disappointed to find never existed before.
Maybe the knock sensor needed a couple of tanks to realise what was going on, maybe the car just needed some cobwebs blowing out of it, or maybe I'm just learning to drive it better. Either way, something has much improved my 996, which I'm pretty pleased about!
Well I'm impressed. My daily driver is a pick up truck with a factory supercharged 5.4 litre V8.
I've always run it on super unleaded but when petrol prices escalated I back to backed it on regular and found no difference in fuel consumption. So I run it on regular. It is a yank so designed to run on crap fuel anyway.
Last week I decided to try the V power nitro just for the hell of it. Well I'm gobsmacked. The difference is night and day.
Tickover has dropped by 150rpm and idles smoothly. On the odd occasion I get to give it some stick it no longer chucks out a plume of black smoke as the rpm gets up near the red and it has stopped pinking. Performance, I've forgotten just how quick it used to be. Gear change is smoother. MPG I'll run through a couple of tanks and see.
Genuinly cannot believe that this fuel has made that much difference.
I've always run it on super unleaded but when petrol prices escalated I back to backed it on regular and found no difference in fuel consumption. So I run it on regular. It is a yank so designed to run on crap fuel anyway.
Last week I decided to try the V power nitro just for the hell of it. Well I'm gobsmacked. The difference is night and day.
Tickover has dropped by 150rpm and idles smoothly. On the odd occasion I get to give it some stick it no longer chucks out a plume of black smoke as the rpm gets up near the red and it has stopped pinking. Performance, I've forgotten just how quick it used to be. Gear change is smoother. MPG I'll run through a couple of tanks and see.
Genuinly cannot believe that this fuel has made that much difference.
So it seems Nitro+ creates a much more noticeable difference on forced induction engines. I get the reasons why a higher octane fuel will change the way in which the knock sensing functions, but surely this would be the same for both forced and naturally aspirated engines...? So why is the difference more perceivable on turbo and supercharged cars?
StuB said:
Achieved 29.7 mpg on the computer in my 996 Turbo today. Achieved similar improvements in my supercharged Z Roadster too. Can't tell if there's more or less power though.
How the f
k do you think you will be able to tell if there's more power if you are acheiving 29.7mpg - fking incredible 
TB993tt said:
StuB said:
Achieved 29.7 mpg on the computer in my 996 Turbo today. Achieved similar improvements in my supercharged Z Roadster too. Can't tell if there's more or less power though.
How the fk do you think you will be able to tell if there's more power if you are acheiving 29.7mpg - fking incredible TB993tt said:
How the fk do you think you will be able to tell if there's more power if you are acheiving 29.7mpg - fking incredible
Oh yeah, thanks for putting me straight. I really must profanitise more for the correct emphasis on t'internet. k do you think you will be able to tell if there's more power if you are acheiving 29.7mpg - fking incredible And I use an AIM 300 data logger for performance runs. That OK Chief?
Run both my cars on VPower, now V-Power Nitro+ - I've noticed any difference at all compared with the 'old' formula, although my Boxster economy is a bit worse than usual so far this year. Can't say for certain its the fuel as it was switched from 0W-30 to 5W-30 oil in December so that may be the cause. Keep meaning to try Tesco momentum as a comparison but never get round to it. Any other fuel and supermarket superunleaded etc makes the car feel noticeably slower than when running on VPower/ V-Power Nitro+ and the diesel variant certain reduces if not eliminates smoke on my non DPF diseasal.
Run both my cars on VPower, now V-Power Nitro+ - I've not noticed any difference at all compared with the 'old' formula, although my Boxster economy is a bit worse than usual so far this year. Can't say for certain its the fuel as it was switched from 0W-30 to 5W-30 oil in December so that may be the cause. Keep meaning to try Tesco momentum as a comparison but never get round to it. Any other fuel and supermarket superunleaded etc makes the car feel noticeably slower than when running on VPower/ V-Power Nitro+ and the diesel variant certain reduces if not eliminates smoke on my non DPF diseasal.
Edited by cslwannabe on Friday 25th April 18:35
I've just done my third refill on Nitro+, in a tuned 944 Turbo mapped on the assumption that it will never see anything worse than 97 Octane. Previously I've been on the old V-Power.
I can't detect any subjective difference but I have just recorded my best ever fuel consumption over a tank in the three years I've had the car, on the same roads I normally use, by a margin of around 0.5 mpg.
It's hardly conclusive proof of anything, but encouraging, and I'm perfectly happy to continue to use it.
I can't detect any subjective difference but I have just recorded my best ever fuel consumption over a tank in the three years I've had the car, on the same roads I normally use, by a margin of around 0.5 mpg.
It's hardly conclusive proof of anything, but encouraging, and I'm perfectly happy to continue to use it.
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