GT3 Recall - Air Intake

GT3 Recall - Air Intake

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PorkaFly

Original Poster:

502 posts

164 months

Tuesday 30th April 2013
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So as Fioran (I think) suggested just before Christmas the air intake disintegration into engine problem is now official...got my letter from PCGB this morning...

I will post letter later when I'm not mobile.

PF

GentlePersuasion

26,140 posts

215 months

Tuesday 30th April 2013
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What flavour?

PorkaFly

Original Poster:

502 posts

164 months

Tuesday 30th April 2013
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997.2

Not sure if it is all or just the standard GT3 which I used to have but sold for an RS. Need to check VIN.

The air intake disintegration issue was the problem with 4.0s going bang.

PF


Edited by PorkaFly on Tuesday 30th April 12:41

GentlePersuasion

26,140 posts

215 months

Tuesday 30th April 2013
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Ouch (x3).

So 997.1 (3.6 donkey) not affected?

PorkaFly

Original Poster:

502 posts

164 months

Tuesday 30th April 2013
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As I said...for 997.2. No other knowledge or crystal ballage....

Here is letter:



PF

BertBert

19,066 posts

212 months

Tuesday 30th April 2013
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"loud noises" biggrin

PorkaFly

Original Poster:

502 posts

164 months

Tuesday 30th April 2013
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Update: the Letter VIN matches my current vehicle so this specific recall is for my 997.2RS (2011) car. I don't know if it affects a certain batch/period of production or if it's for all 3.8 GT3 engines. Given this was a specific issue on the 4.0 engine I hazard a guess they are being recalled too, maybe 4.0 owners can advise? Perhaps it only affects a few 3.8s in the 4.0 timeframe - I don't know if there was crossover or definitive stops between production runs, but imagine some common parts?

Thank fk it didn't disintegrate on my first Euro Hoon...Spa/Ring trip in it the other week!

Hopefully Fioran and others who spoke of this last year still have their ears to ground and can tell us more. I will update with any info I glean over the coming week.

PF

PorkaFly

Original Poster:

502 posts

164 months

Tuesday 30th April 2013
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BertBert said:
"loud noises" biggrin
Yes...the sound of your engine "lunching" itself...

PF

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 30th April 2013
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The simplistic naivety of that letter says a lot about how Porsche regard their customers, to me. Or a lot about the people handling this side of the business, maybe they're very busy. wink


PorkaFly

Original Poster:

502 posts

164 months

Tuesday 30th April 2013
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REALIST123 said:
The simplistic naivety of that letter says a lot about how Porsche regard their customers, to me. Or a lot about the people handling this side of the business, maybe they're very busy. wink
Indeed! They treat their halo customers like the average consumer/Mondeo Man...no offence to Mondeo Man, we've all been there, but this is not a company car motorway workhorse/snotter, that we only care if it gets us safely and economically from A to B, and then dispose of for the next one.

I'm afraid it's corporate lawyers who won't allow them to admit to or explain issues in more depth, which would go such along way with the loyal brand ambassadors we are. This issue, small part, but big consequences is just another in a long-line of "pat the customer on the head and do be a good chap and run along...and do buy another of our wonderful cars which we won't stand behind." Cente-lock lifed components issue springs to mind.

I do wonder if they think we're all idiots and are so suckered in to the whole halo RS thing we will just be compliant...they must realise, shirley (sic), that to have got to the position where we can afford these cars we're mostly savvy intelligent/successful people who have worked very hard to get where we are.

So come on Porsche...a bit of honest, straight talking would do you wonders and get people like me engaged rather than feel patronised by silly vaguely worded letters.

PF




colin1976

84 posts

177 months

Tuesday 30th April 2013
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PorkaFly said:
997.2
Not sure if it is all or just the standard GT3 which I used to have but sold for an RS. Need to check VIN.

The air intake disintegration issue was the problem with 4.0s going bang.

PF
Edited by PorkaFly on Tuesday 30th April 12:41
Not sure this is true of the majority of the 4.0 engine failures.
My understanding: these were due to crankcase caulking plug failure causing the engine to drop its oil.
Workshop campaign WC 21 re-sealed the caulking plug.


PorkaFly said:
Update: the Letter VIN matches my current vehicle so this specific recall is for my 997.2RS (2011) car. I don't know if it affects a certain batch/period of production or if it's for all 3.8 GT3 engines. Given this was a specific issue on the 4.0 engine I hazard a guess they are being recalled too, maybe 4.0 owners can advise? Perhaps it only affects a few 3.8s in the 4.0 timeframe - I don't know if there was crossover or definitive stops between production runs, but imagine some common parts?
Yes, Workshop campaign WC 51 (replacing centre intake-air distributor) includes the 4.0

Obiwonkeyblokey

5,399 posts

241 months

Tuesday 30th April 2013
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PorkaFly said:
BertBert said:
"loud noises" biggrin
Yes...the sound of your engine "lunching" itself...

PF
It's OK, I get it.

ChrisW.

6,324 posts

256 months

Tuesday 30th April 2013
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GT2 2009 ?

Pete RS

305 posts

234 months

Tuesday 30th April 2013
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PorkaFly said:
REALIST123 said:
The simplistic naivety of that letter says a lot about how Porsche regard their customers, to me. Or a lot about the people handling this side of the business, maybe they're very busy. wink
Indeed! They treat their halo customers like the average consumer/Mondeo Man...no offence to Mondeo Man, we've all been there, but this is not a company car motorway workhorse/snotter, that we only care if it gets us safely and economically from A to B, and then dispose of for the next one.

I'm afraid it's corporate lawyers who won't allow them to admit to or explain issues in more depth, which would go such along way with the loyal brand ambassadors we are. This issue, small part, but big consequences is just another in a long-line of "pat the customer on the head and do be a good chap and run along...and do buy another of our wonderful cars which we won't stand behind." Cente-lock lifed components issue springs to mind.

I do wonder if they think we're all idiots and are so suckered in to the whole halo RS thing we will just be compliant...they must realise, shirley (sic), that to have got to the position where we can afford these cars we're mostly savvy intelligent/successful people who have worked very hard to get where we are.

So come on Porsche...a bit of honest, straight talking would do you wonders and get people like me engaged rather than feel patronised by silly vaguely worded letters.

PF
+1,0000,000
Perhaps if Mr. GT3 / GT3RS PR/ product manager spent more time actually fixing existing customers issues rather than spouting about the next generation being even better he would realise that his early adopter, brand lover customers, ever faithful are becoming more p****d off by the year.





Steve Rance

5,446 posts

232 months

Tuesday 30th April 2013
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Finally, a recall. Bad form Porsche, it saddens me to say...

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

245 months

Tuesday 30th April 2013
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Just got mine today. Anyone know how long the job is? I don't want to leave the car in any longer than I need to.

arcamalpha

1,075 posts

165 months

Tuesday 30th April 2013
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Anyone know the VIN number range that this applies to?

stefan1

977 posts

233 months

Tuesday 30th April 2013
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Steve Rance said:
Finally, a recall. Bad form Porsche, it saddens me to say...
With regret, I agree. Porsche knew of this issue as far back as October last year and yet officially denied all knowledge until now. Very disappointing. I have already made my views known through the proper channels. I hope that lessons are learned.


Edited by stefan1 on Tuesday 30th April 21:45

PorkaFly

Original Poster:

502 posts

164 months

Tuesday 30th April 2013
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stefan1 said:
Steve Rance said:
Finally, a recall. Bad form Porsche, it saddens me to say...
With regret, I agree. Porsche knew of this issue as far back as October last year and yet officially denied all knowledge until now. Very disappointing. I have already made my views known through the proper channels. I hope that lessons are learned.


Edited by stefan1 on Tuesday 30th April 21:45
Stefan/Steve - I imagine there is no warning before this part lets go and you're just unlucky if it happens to you?

I'd be interested in more background now its official, as you clearly both seem to know a lot about this issue...if you feel able to share on the forum. Also, is it only an RS issue - both 3.8/4.0 - or all 997.2 GT3s?

Txs
PF


AB5150

80 posts

147 months

Wednesday 1st May 2013
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Thanks guys for the heads up . Here , Porsche NZ are a little slow on the uptake.