964 - New Wheels

[OlberJ]

Looking to get a new set of wheels for the 964.

Like the 16" cups that i have just now but i'm not keen on the spacers and the widths, looking for a bit more grip/road holding. I'll keep the 16's for track days.

Have to be 17", don't want any bigger.

So do i go for a set of cup 1's in silver?

Or something else completely?

Open to any options and styles pretty much. Pics of them on a 964 would be grand. If you have a set to sell, even better.

[Nurburgsingh]

17" Wheels that work on 964's in order of correctness and coolness....

Cup 1's
Cup 1's
Cup 1's
Ruf 5 spoke a la yellow bird

Anything else is just 'meh' IMHO

[fastgerman]

Nurburgsingh said:

17" Wheels that work on 964's in order of correctness and coolness....

Cup 1's
Cup 1's
Cup 1's
Ruf 5 spoke a la yellow bird

Anything else is just 'meh' IMHO

BBS LM's work on every car in the world ;-)

Also like D90's and a polished finish on a dark colour car can look pretty cool. Ride on 16's is also more comfortable

Edited by fastgerman on Friday 31st May 14:21

[OlberJ]

It's not the ride, i love the big sidewalls. It's the movement when going quickly is too much for the road.

Fancy a bit more predictability and road holding.

[Vic_S]

Make sure you know the difference between originals & replicas. Reps look similar but are not worth as much...

Originals will have the width & offset showing right next to the valve. Reps have it stamped on the inside of the wheel. Also watch out for Cup I reps that came off earlier 911's or 944's as the offsets on those wheels will not work on a 964.

BTW - there is nothing much wrong with the reps. I have a set on my car and they are AOK.

I also like CupII's on a 964

[Penguinracer]

Cup II's are also worth a look.
I think the 964 looks best on BBS E88 or E28 - but they're expensive & three piece wheels aren't really strong enough for the road.

The BBS Cast Flow Formed Mono-bloc whhels look great in 18"

[Markh]

Vic_S said:

Make sure you know the difference between originals & replicas. Reps look similar but are not worth as much...

Originals will have the width & offset showing right next to the valve. Reps have it stamped on the inside of the wheel. Also watch out for Cup I reps that came off earlier 911's or 944's as the offsets on those wheels will not work on a 964.

BTW - there is nothing much wrong with the reps. I have a set on my car and they are AOK.

I also like CupII's on a 964

I like Cup2's too

[OlberJ]

Much prefer Cup1's to Cup2's.

I have Cup1's on the 928, will they be a different offset?

[Markh]

OlberJ said:

Much prefer Cup1's to Cup2's.

I have Cup1's on the 928, will they be a different offset?

would agree, just a case of finding a set with correct off set, have been looking for 18 months with no luck, FVD seem to be selling Porsche approved replica's which look to be my best option

[OlberJ]

That's strange, looking on FVD's site it gives the same spec for 2 Cup 1's.


Wheelset "CUP 1 Design" with Michelin Pilot Sport 7,5+9x17 ET 52/47 FKR75575917C11

FKR 755 759 17C11

Mod. 928

928GTS / 928GT / 928CS / 928S4 / 928S / 928

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Wheelset "CUP 1 Design" with Michelin Pilot Sport 7,5+9x17 ET 52/47 FKR75575917C12

FKR 755 759 17C12

Mod. 964

Turbo-Look / RS / C4 /


Same width, same ET's but different part numbers. Will they not fit or is it the centre bore or something daft?

[ras62]

The wheels on the FVD site are cup 1 reps but they will fit fine with those offsets. Normal offset for the 964 is 55 front and rear.

[Nurburgsingh]

OP specified 17's that's why I left of the BBS lm's and speedlines.

Cup 2 is a lighter wheel than a cup 1 but isn't 'phat' enough for the 964 shape IMHO.

IIRC 928 cup1 is the same as a 968 size 7.5x17et65...
964/993 fronts are 7x17et55

Real ones have the width and et stamped around the tyre valve so it should say 7 and 55 for a correct 964 cup 1/2

[OlberJ]

So no point trying the 928 cup 1's on my 964?

[johnycarrera]

Worth a try Olie.
Just buy a set of replicas of your choice, companies like cargraphic do various spacer combinations to sort out your offset, then get a bespoke geometry set up to suit

[Nurburgsingh]

Wider wheel - wider tyre.. Not sure if there is a rubbing issue?

[Junior Bianno]

I've got a lovely set of 18" Veloces here Olie - nice price

Have you had the geo done with those wheels? Without the spacers those 16" cups are sensational. Honestly don't think the problem is lack of rubber, and heavier Cup 1s won't necessarily improve the situation.

[erics]

Markh said:

I like Cup2's too

This is horrid and wrong.

Porsche designed wheels for each generation of car. Must stay this way.
Cup1s or nothing.

[johnycarrera]

Bit mean saying that about someone's pride and joy, personal taste. I wouldn't put them on a 964 but love the idea of personalising and modifying your 911.

Beauty is in the eye of the besporker

[Slippydiff]

erics said:

Markh said:

I like Cup2's too

This is horrid and wrong.

Porsche designed wheels for each generation of car. Must stay this way.
Cup1s or nothing.

+1

The RUF Yellowbird wheels don't fit the 964 due to it's negative scrub radius front suspension which was designed to work with ABS.

RUF did however do wheels to fit the 964, personally I think they're one of the few aftermarket wheels that does suit the 964, but quite rare, though they do appear for sale occasionally.

It's a little known fact that the original Cup wheels designed for the Cup cars in their first couple of seasons are still available from Porsche.

The Yanks, bless'em, advertise them for ridiculous money, stating they're rare and sought after. Really ? the last time I checked (when I bought a set) they had something like 600 rears in stock and even more fronts. They're slightly wider than the stock Cup 1's both front and rear, the fronts are 8" the rears 9.5". The fronts fill the arches perfectly without spacers, the rear need a minimum 21mm spacer to clear the oil pipes (just as the Cup cars ran) In reality the rears will run a 28mm spacer and then fill the arches out nicely.

Approx £5-600 a pop, and worth every penny.


Clicky

[graemel]

OlberJ said:

It's not the ride, i love the big sidewalls. It's the movement when going quickly is too much for the road.

Fancy a bit more predictability and road holding.

Cup 1's are the way to go. Maybe be a bit heavy but look just right.
But it is also worth having a look at your suspension especially the rear arms. From memory the 964 has a big rubber bush in the rear trailing arm sort of designed to give you a bit of rear wheel steer. 964 RS's do not have these. Different trailing arms and camber plates.