Chris Harris drives the 991 GT3 enjoy
Discussion
rosino said:
Skrambles said:
The same thought occurred to me, when looking at the 991 GT3 brochure. If buying a 991, I doubt that I'd go for a turbo (unless needing 4 seats) as the new gt3 is already so fast and so refined (compared to its predecessor) that it would make just as good a GT/everyday car. Plus, the exhaust on the turbo tends to be so disappointing by comparison with the spine-tingling gt3 notes.
Just out of curiosity (honest), has the full allocation of 2013/2014 cars been pre-ordered?
Back to the gt3 leaving behind with no regrets that bulky by crude effort which is the gt-r. Just out of curiosity (honest), has the full allocation of 2013/2014 cars been pre-ordered?
1. How do you know it's more comfortable ?? Who says? A dual-clutch should not be enough to make it a s-class will it?
2. Turbo noise or lack thereof (or dyson noise) was a known problem. Do you think they won't have addressed it in the all new model in a market which seems to be obsessed about making everybody hear how mean you sportscar is?
3. No. Not all allocated, there's no limited amount of allocations. They will just produce the car or limited amount of time. Probably 12-15months. All OPC I have spoken to have confirmed Porsche I unlikely to turn down firm orders for a while. They will when they end production cycle as they did with previous ones.
mrdemon said:
sleep envy said:
Stiffer suspension, 'air guides' and different seat material covering isn't really engineering a car for the track.
But it's a road car as is the 991 GT3 ?the GTR races also (unlike the 991 Turbo), I am not sure what people don't get.
to me it's the same market and Nissan are taking the car racing and winning events with it to up the cars status.
The Turbo is NOT the same market it's twice the price !
I don't think I've mentioned the 911 turbo, have I?
sleep envy said:
Have Nissan decided to honour the warranty after track use now?
From the 2010 model year yes, I believe they do warranty the car even if it is used on track days and when "RRR" is engaged. This hoopla kicked off in 2009 but it's history now I believe.I must say the notion of buying an early GTR for £35k and then personalising it to "GT3" spec and losing 100kg or more sounds like a fun project
Anyway, back to Porsche...
mollytherocker said:
Looking at some of the comments on here about PDK and how you can 'change gear manually, why do you need a stick?', its not surprising that Porsche have ditched the box.
This is what the new Playstation generation buyers want I guess and thats that.
I'd love to see the buyer demographic to see if the play station generation are considered to be a significant section of the customer base. This is what the new Playstation generation buyers want I guess and thats that.
AndyBrew said:
What is the PlayStation generation???
For me it's the generation addicted to digital technology, iPhones are a good example. They spend more time on Facebook than living real life.They don't appreciate mechanical tactile things, it's all about the apps and things happening automatically.
I love technology and indeed play stations but show me something like a steam tractor and I get very excited!
Edited by mollytherocker on Thursday 13th June 18:41
rosino said:
Back to the gt3 leaving behind with no regrets that bulky by crude effort which is the gt-r.
1. How do you know it's more comfortable ?? Who says? A dual-clutch should not be enough to make it a s-class will it?
2. Turbo noise or lack thereof (or dyson noise) was a known problem. Do you think they won't have addressed it in the all new model in a market which seems to be obsessed about making everybody hear how mean you sportscar is?
3. No. Not all allocated, there's no limited amount of allocations. They will just produce the car or limited amount of time. Probably 12-15months. All OPC I have spoken to have confirmed Porsche I unlikely to turn down firm orders for a while. They will when they end production cycle as they did with previous ones.
1. Just look at it! The gt3 can be spec'd with all mod cons and it doesn't have to be a merc to replace a 911 turbo ;-). The pdk will make the car more attractive as a daily driver for those who couldn't be arsd with the manual on the 997 gt3 for the daily grind.1. How do you know it's more comfortable ?? Who says? A dual-clutch should not be enough to make it a s-class will it?
2. Turbo noise or lack thereof (or dyson noise) was a known problem. Do you think they won't have addressed it in the all new model in a market which seems to be obsessed about making everybody hear how mean you sportscar is?
3. No. Not all allocated, there's no limited amount of allocations. They will just produce the car or limited amount of time. Probably 12-15months. All OPC I have spoken to have confirmed Porsche I unlikely to turn down firm orders for a while. They will when they end production cycle as they did with previous ones.
2. The turbo will never sound anything like as good as the gt3, whatever they do - Porsche always tend to go soft on the exhaust for the turbo, perhaps to keep it seeming more sedate for the many who buy it as a trophy car. Hope I'm wrong about this on the 991. Or maybe they just pipe the sound of a gt3 into the cabin ...
Skrambles said:
1. Just look at it! The gt3 can be spec'd with all mod cons and it doesn't have to be a merc to replace a 911 turbo ;-). The pdk will make the car more attractive as a daily driver for those who couldn't be arsd with the manual on the 997 gt3 for the daily grind.
2. The turbo will never sound anything like as good as the gt3, whatever they do - Porsche always tend to go soft on the exhaust for the turbo, perhaps to keep it seeming more sedate for the many who buy it as a trophy car. Hope I'm wrong about this on the 991. Or maybe they just pipe the sound of a gt3 into the cabin ...
They actually do,the turbo is quieter because of the turbos not any extra silencing if you do open up the system they always sound a bit agricultural IMO.2. The turbo will never sound anything like as good as the gt3, whatever they do - Porsche always tend to go soft on the exhaust for the turbo, perhaps to keep it seeming more sedate for the many who buy it as a trophy car. Hope I'm wrong about this on the 991. Or maybe they just pipe the sound of a gt3 into the cabin ...
mhh said:
Harris said fixed backrest - is he correct?
It folds down for access to back but it is not adjustable angle wise in the upright position, so yes its fixed.Now I sit fairly upright and like a certain position so I guess its going to be pot luck if this suits otherwise I will have to spec the 18 way adjustable sport seats plus. At least the Ferrari racings seats can be adjusted and I can get the seating position spot on
sidicks said:
SonnyM said:
Ok - so did anyone else notice the NEW style of bucket seat Chris was in? It looks like the 918 seat.
Anyone know if this will be a lighter option available later on the GT3 / RS??
Different in what way?Anyone know if this will be a lighter option available later on the GT3 / RS??
Looked exactly like the ones in the brochure!!
SonnyM said:
Look at the seat Chris is sitting in - it is completely different to the passenger seat and the brochure. If it doesn't make it into the GT3 it will be a great seat for the RS.
Good spot that the driver's seat is different.Less clear that the driver's seat is materially different / better than the passenger one!
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