What next, if not Pork?
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burriana500 said:There's another Yorkshire Lad with a 700+ bhp 993 and a 700+ bhp F40, figures are real no bull, but I'm not too sure he'd be able to get them to Brunters.
As an aside, hopefully a Yorkshire chap I have been chatting to via Rennlist.com will be registering on here soon. He has a 993TT with equal or more power than any 911 to have attended Brunters so far.....honest.
More than 510bhp? Now that sounds interesting
Sorry for the ignorance Martyn, but could you sum up in say, 3 simple short bullet points, the main difference between your and M.Rexs 993TTs and Daz's 996TT - I, probably totally wrongly, assumed the later car would have more power, better handling - is this not the case?
burriana500 said:
More than 510bhp? Now that sounds interesting
Sorry for the ignorance Martyn, but could you sum up in say, 3 simple short bullet points, the main difference between your and M.Rexs 993TTs and Daz's 996TT - I, probably totally wrongly, assumed the later car would have more power, better handling - is this not the case?
The car is about 550/560 bhp at the moment I think.
The main diffs between the 993TT and 996TT in my honest opinion are:
1) 996 is more refined and comfortable, at the *slight* expense of driver involvement compared to the 993. The older car is more raw and soulfull....it is the ultimate (and last) evolution of the air cooled turbo.
2) Power - if you compared Daz's X50 with an X50 993 of the same power output there would be nothing in it in a straight line until the speeds get silly (> 150) where the slicker aerodynamics of the 996 give a big advantage (ask DeR about this!).
3) Handling - 996 wins! The PSM traction / stability control gives superior handling in all conditions.
Go for rides in both at Brunters and see what you think.
Is this fair Daz? Would really like to hear others opinions on this!
Have a good weekend all.
Martyn.
AC79XXX said 'It's a toss up between a 355 GTB (black with linen) or a M3 CSL.
More likely the CSL as the Mrs AC79xxx will find it easier to drive.'
I hired a 355 GTS about 18 months ago for a weekend and found it a joy to drive. A few years earlier I drove a 308 GTB QV which was horrible to drive but the 355 is lovely. The gearchange is not at all intimidating and very satisfying to use, the clutch is not megga heavy (not as heavy as my GT3's), the steering is power assisted and the visibility for a mid engined car is pretty good as well.
The only (but significant) way the car let itself down was the horrendous amount of water that found its way into the car through the passenger window drenching whoever was in the passenger seat at the time including my then girlfriend.
Proberbly best to buy a GTB as I've heard that the Spyder is also prone to soaking its occupants.
Geoff
MOD500 said:
The main diffs between the 993TT and 996TT in my honest opinion are:
1) 996 is more refined and comfortable, at the *slight* expense of driver involvement compared to the 993. The older car is more raw and soulfull....it is the ultimate (and last) evolution of the air cooled turbo.
2) Power - if you compared Daz's X50 with an X50 993 of the same power output there would be nothing in it in a straight line until the speeds get silly (> 150) where the slicker aerodynamics of the 996 give a big advantage (ask DeR about this!).
3) Handling - 996 wins! The PSM traction / stability control gives superior handling in all conditions.
Go for rides in both at Brunters and see what you think.
Is this fair Daz? Would really like to hear others opinions on this!
I agree with everything Martin has said here and would add that the interior cabin space of the 996 is noticably increased over the 993. More airbags too.
DAZ
porschegeoff said:
AC79xxx said:
It's a toss up between a 355 GTB (black with linen) or a M3 CSL.
More likely the CSL as the Mrs AC79xxx will find it easier to drive.
I hired a 355 GTS about 18 months ago for a weekend and found it a joy to drive. A few years earlier I drove a 308 GTB QV which was horrible to drive but the 355 is lovely. The gearchange is not at all intimidating and very satisfying to use, the clutch is not megga heavy (not as heavy as my GT3's), the steering is power assisted and the visibility for a mid engined car is pretty good as well.
The only (but significant) way the car let itself down was the horrendous amount of water that found its way into the car through the passenger window drenching whoever was in the passenger seat at the time including my then girlfriend.
Proberbly best to buy a GTB as I've heard that the Spyder is also prone to soaking its occupants.
Geoff
Interesting
nel said:
If it's not going to be German pork, then I'd probably go for British beef, mad cow or not. I've always loved Astons - one of my early wet-dream cars was a V8 Vantage, so I'd be looking at AM's both modern and classic.
Whether it is true or not, my perception of the Italian exotica is of fragility and painful running costs - maybe unwarranted in the case of the modern machines. So developing a taste for Italian pasta would require a bit more thought and time spent trawling the web for info.
The newer Italian Ferraris are in fact more fragile then the earlier stuff and even MORE expensive to run. How do I know?
Well one of the previous owners of my 993TT owns a ferrari dealership-so I contacted him and asked him why would a head of a Ferrari dealership own a Porker, and he said when he needed to get from A to B, he needed to actually ARIVE there. He also didn't speak highley of the 5 valve lay out, and its wear (its just like the Italians to come up with an excellent piece of design hardware theoretically only to not execute it in durability details). I understood the more robust of the cars were the 308s, 328s and 348 series.
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