Prospective 991 GT3 RS Owners discussion forum.

Prospective 991 GT3 RS Owners discussion forum.

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CarAficionado

30 posts

125 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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£220k for an RS - that's serious money for a track car. Do you think Porsche will make the new RS with new 991 facelift bits ?

APOLO1

5,256 posts

195 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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markow said:
220K for the RS? and why should anyone buy it over the 458Speciale? i just can't see it...
this will make me stay on the list for the 458PS and get off the RS list if true.
peter
respectfully, don't think this will be a problem, after the 918 customer's have taken up there options...don't see many left....

you say on the list for a 458SP, by "dint" that the 20k deposit is now none refundable,? are you not stuck on the list....

markow

42 posts

119 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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APOLO1 said:
respectfully, don't think this will be a problem, after the 918 customer's have taken up there options...don't see many left....

you say on the list for a 458SP, by "dint" that the 20k deposit is now none refundable,? are you not stuck on the list....
hi apolo1,
i gave 20K deposit for either the 458 successor or the speciale. if i decide for neither of the two i can get the money back until
two weeks after the presentation of the 458 successor (geneve 2015 it seems). you see, ferrari (at least in austria) has become much
more accommodating.
peter

APOLO1

5,256 posts

195 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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markow said:
hi apolo1,
i gave 20K deposit for either the 458 successor or the speciale. if i decide for neither of the two i can get the money back until
two weeks after the presentation of the 458 successor (geneve 2015 it seems). you see, ferrari (at least in austria) has become much
more accommodating.
peter
on the RS, if you throw in the alloys the Light Pk, and lift that's 50k..I have a 458SP, Sep build, I would take that its the last of the screemers.....the new one will have a lot of BHP, but it will sound crap....imv

markow

42 posts

119 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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APOLO1 said:
on the RS, if you throw in the alloys the Light Pk, and lift that's 50k..I have a 458SP, Sep build, I would take that its the last of the screemers.....the new one will have a lot of BHP, but it will sound crap....imv
yes, the next 458 will be biturbo, unfortunately. they report 670HP, but it will sound like the 650 macci.
p

APOLO1

5,256 posts

195 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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markow said:
yes, the next 458 will be biturbo, unfortunately. they report 670HP, but it will sound like the 650 macci.
p
I know and the g-box also, the car will be totally devoid of any emotion imv..

Carl_Docklands

12,235 posts

263 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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markow said:
APOLO1 said:
put another "one" in front with the right bits on....and so it should imv, the 458SP is 250k....
220K for the RS? and why should anyone buy it over the 458Speciale? i just can't see it...
this will make me stay on the list for the 458PS and get off the RS list if true.
peter
Can't see this myself as the usual performance boost the RS provides are incremental over the standard GT3. unless they are using carbon fibre body panels or some sort of exotica.

APOLO1

5,256 posts

195 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Carl_Docklands said:
Can't see this myself as the usual performance boost the RS provides are incremental over the standard GT3. unless they are using carbon fibre body panels or some sort of exotica.
how about magnesium, forged carbon....for a start....I take it you are aware of the cost of the 918 style alloy, that is reputed be an option...

Standard carbon will be no good on this one, by the time you put the Gel coat on to paint it will weight more than the ali parts, wings ect...

As you say not much more in Bhp, 30-40, but more important a lot more torque, weight and aero are the big areas on this one, hence the high cost of materials, forged carbon mix is so cool....but very expensive...fyi the 918 has it.



Edited by APOLO1 on Thursday 24th July 18:25

James32

6 posts

118 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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APOLO1 said:
how about magnesium, forged carbon....for a start....I take it you are aware of the cost of the 918 style alloy, that is reputed be an option...

Standard carbon will be no good on this one, by the time you put the Gel coat on to paint it will weight more than the ali parts, wings ect...

As you say not much more in Bhp, 30-40, but more important a lot more torque, weight and aero are the big areas on this one, hence the high cost of materials, forged carbon mix is so cool....but very expensive...fyi the 918 has it.

I don't agree. Why would they do that? Are people going to pay 120k more over a gt3. There has never been such a big price difference on other models.

Edited by APOLO1 on Thursday 24th July 18:25

RDMcG

19,189 posts

208 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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The pricing I have seen on this side of the pond does not correspond with this. Maybe its different. A bit steeper premium to the 991 GT3 but definitely not into the exotic territory. We shall see. So far everything I heard has been pretty accurate.

isaldiri

18,607 posts

169 months

Friday 25th July 2014
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RDMcG said:
The pricing I have seen on this side of the pond does not correspond with this. Maybe its different. A bit steeper premium to the 991 GT3 but definitely not into the exotic territory. We shall see. So far everything I heard has been pretty accurate.
One has to assume the £220k quoted includes some of the truly pricey 918 options like liquid metal paint (€50k) and mag wheels (€26k) as apolo1 did mention liquid metal paint previously i think. Past history would suggest something around the turbo s so ~£140-150k base is what I would be expecting for the 991 RS. We'll see soon enough anyway if rumours are correct about Paris being the launch.

Mermaid

21,492 posts

172 months

Friday 25th July 2014
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isaldiri said:
One has to assume the £220k quoted includes some of the truly pricey 918 options like liquid metal paint (€50k) and mag wheels (€26k) as apolo1 did mention liquid metal paint previously i think. Past history would suggest something around the turbo s so ~£140-150k base is what I would be expecting for the 991 RS. We'll see soon enough anyway if rumours are correct about Paris being the launch.
At £220+ the premiums touted, you would not see many RS's at track days, people talking up prices/premiums.

BMCG

484 posts

137 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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CarAficionado

30 posts

125 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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BMCG said:
This is looking very fine indeed. Hurry up Porsche in launching this long delayed car and rebuild credibility after the GT3 debacle.

Sandy59

2,706 posts

212 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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Yes looking good, the rumoured orange launch colour might suit it quite well.
Optional decals for over the bonnet and roof maybe ??

RDMcG

19,189 posts

208 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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Sandy59 said:
Yes looking good, the rumoured orange launch colour might suit it quite well.
Optional decals for over the bonnet and roof maybe ??
At least initially no decals last time I heard. Blood orange is a go. Much deeper than the RS.1 colour.

EricE

1,945 posts

130 months

Saturday 2nd August 2014
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Somebody filmed it on the Nordschleife yesterday:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-q2pWwrm-Y

There are plenty of differences when you compare the car in the video to the patent drawings.

Tony 1234

3,465 posts

228 months

Saturday 2nd August 2014
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EricE said:
Somebody i.e Porsche filmed it on the Nordschleife yesterday:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-q2pWwrm-Y
Fixed that for you smile

Robbo66

3,834 posts

234 months

Saturday 2nd August 2014
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So there it is. An ugly version of the GT3. I could not drive that and be seen in public.
As a track tool however, I expect it to be superb.

RDMcG

19,189 posts

208 months

Saturday 2nd August 2014
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Robbo66 said:
So there it is. An ugly version of the GT3. I could not drive that and be seen in public.
As a track tool however, I expect it to be superb.
I have concluded that I was born with an ugly stick, because I quite like it. ( Of course, I had similar discussions when I had an E 63 M6 and a 997.2 RS. Assuming its decal-free my guess is most ordinary people will see just another Porsche with a big wing. A surprising number of people see little difference between a 964 and a 991.