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RDMcG said:
Good news. All of the speculation, loads of posts, and yet, none of us knows for real how the thing performs. We have informed guesses, press releases, but in the end. how the car really feels is still a question for me. I have one confirmed,but there are better drivers than I am out there ( many) and it is helpful to read some constructive reviews.
Plenty of people here were happy to comment on how the GT3 drove without actually having driven it, so perhaps they can advise on the 'RS...!
majordad said:
I think that the spec of the car says it all. It's built and designed with little compromise, the aero and suspension are a big leap forward as are the tyres ( Cup 2s way better than previous cups ) , power a bit less than I hoped for and only four colours at launch and for us Europeans no Factory Collection as it's winter delivery mostly. That said I'm looking forward to the Autocar Test. That's always the clincher for me.
Re the power, Preuninger was fairly clear in more than one interview that the quoted figures are somewhat - even very - prudent. I would not be surprised if the real power output is between 510 and 520 hp.But I strongly agree with you - the chassis and aero spec. in particular suggests something special.
Cheers
majordad said:
I wonder will Porsche run the car at the NBR 24 like they did in 2010, it finished 11th? Then with the recent accident there may not be a NBR 24 this year.
After all the changes to make it legal, it'll bear little resemblance to,the road car surely... Still hope the 2016 motorsport car runs a form of the new 991 RS engine though.The aero on the 991 RS i guess is likely to make the car feel very special indeed. That said, per Porsche own's ring times, I reckon the old 4.0 RS still looks like it has a decent chance of keeping up if you stuck on new cup2s and a sequential gearbox which is not too bad going for the older car!.
isaldiri said:
After all the changes to make it legal, it'll bear little resemblance to,the road car surely... Still hope the 2016 motorsport car runs a form of the new 991 RS engine though.
The aero on the 991 RS i guess is likely to make the car feel very special indeed. That said, per Porsche own's ring times, I reckon the old 4.0 RS still looks like it has a decent chance of keeping up if you stuck on new cup2s and a sequential gearbox which is not too bad going for the older car!.
Wasn't it 2010 when they drove a 997 GT3 RS 3.8 to the competition, competed and came 10th, and then drove home again?The aero on the 991 RS i guess is likely to make the car feel very special indeed. That said, per Porsche own's ring times, I reckon the old 4.0 RS still looks like it has a decent chance of keeping up if you stuck on new cup2s and a sequential gearbox which is not too bad going for the older car!.
Minimal changes were required, at least that how I recall it being portrayed!
sidicks said:
Wasn't it 2010 when they drove a 997 GT3 RS 3.8 to the competition, competed and came 10th, and then drove home again?
Minimal changes were required, at least that how I recall it being portrayed!
Was told by a friend in Germany it spent a fair amount of time at Mantheys prior to the N24......Minimal changes were required, at least that how I recall it being portrayed!
At the least the 2010 RS would have had pasm replaced and that was far closer to the Cup car than now. The 991 would have to have pasm/pdk/rws at the very least stripped out....? And given the pdk drives the e-diff likely change required to the diff unit too. Those systems are at the heart of what makes the 991 work. Without them surely there is little remaining resemblance to the road car?
Edited by isaldiri on Wednesday 15th April 23:25
I had a good look at the 2010 RS in the N24 and talked to the drivers, CH said that the car was completely stock apart from specific requirements for the race...steel brakes, wheels, full cage etc. I took some pics of it with my then three-day old 3.8.....I think if finished 12th... ad it is true it was driven back to the factory in the rain, because I followed it out. The interior still had its trim panels
PorscheGT4 said:
5 seconds difference. How much is due to the slick tyres?PorscheGT4 said:
Yawn... Less weight, sequential gearbox, slicks... And only 5 secs?We get it, you don't like GT3s, get over it n enjoy your GT4 when you get it... Just in time for winter!
I would suggest most of it. Tyres make the biggest difference. Now I would not have driven round combe, setting a time without a helmet on. Nutter!
The new RS is going to be absolutely bonkers. 500+ HP, lighter, wider, bigger tyres. It's going to be utterly epic.
It will be interesting to see how it compares to a cup car if someone puts slicks on one.
The new RS is going to be absolutely bonkers. 500+ HP, lighter, wider, bigger tyres. It's going to be utterly epic.
It will be interesting to see how it compares to a cup car if someone puts slicks on one.
sidicks said:
Plenty of people here were happy to comment on how the GT3 drove without actually having driven it, so perhaps they can advise on the 'RS...!
If you haven't already seen the U tube clip take a look at it being driven by Brendon Hartley round the Nardo test track. Particularly focus on the cars posture and although he is a Porsche Factory driver notice that the guy is genuinely thrilled. What is particularly special about this GT3RS compared to any before is the extra amount of time that Porsche have spent on the project. Primarily because of the GT3 engine problems which considerably delayed the GT3RS launch. Porsche GT development didn`t go on holiday they spent more time and effort making the 911GT3RS significantly better than it would of been. There has been a lot of love lavished on this car. In particular they worked on the aero package big time. Hence the massive increase in down force. What most experienced 911 drivers know is the biggest limiting factor of the general design is the front end mechanical grip. The 997.2 GT3RS, GT2RS and GT3RS 4.0 all had widen front tracks with significant improvement in under steer and car control. 991 GT3 continued this trend but its highly likely the GT3RS will be totally amazing and another step forward. There was a time when I used to wonder when I was trading in one GT3 for the next model if I was doing the right thing. Truth is in 30 years Porsche had never let me down. Its Ok to own the old cars and nice the reminisce but its following the technology that is where its at. And if your GT3RS isn`t for you and there is bound to be the odd one,(not suggesting that is you) you can always sell it for more than you paid for it. At the very least you can tell your Grandkids that you owned one. They will be impressed.Edited by GR GT2RS on Friday 17th April 16:06
GR GT2RS said:
If you haven't already seen the U tube clip take a look at it being driven by Brendon Hartley round the Nardo test track. Particularly focus on the cars posture and although he is a Porsche Factory driver notice that the guy is genuinely thrilled. What is particularly special about this GT3RS compared to any before is the extra amount of time that Porsche have spent on the project. Primarily because of the GT3 engine problems which considerably delayed the GT3RS launch. Porsche GT development didn`t go on holiday they spent more time and effort making the 911GT3RS significantly better than it would of been. There has been a lot of love lavished on this car. In particular they worked on the aero package big time. Hence the massive increase in down force. What most experienced 911 drivers know is the biggest limiting factor of the general design is the front end mechanical grip. The 997.2 GT3RS, GT2RS and GT3RS 4.0 all had widen front tracks with significant improvement in under steer and car control. 991 GT3 continued this trend but its highly likely the GT3RS will be totally amazing and another step forward. There was a time when I used to wonder when I was trading in one GT3 for the next model if I was doing the right thing. Truth is in 30 years Porsche had never let me down. Its Ok to own the old cars and nice the reminisce but its following the technology that is where its at. And if your GT3RS isn`t for you and there is bound to be the odd one,(not suggesting that is you) you can always sell it for more than you paid for it. At the very least you can tell your Grandkids that you owned one. They will be impressed.
Unfortunately I can only dream of being awarded a place on the 991 GT3 RS waiting list'Edited by GR GT2RS on Friday 17th April 16:06
sidicks said:
Unfortunately I can only dream of being awarded a place on the 991 GT3 RS waiting list'
If you purchased you current 991GT3 from a Porsche dealer then go to them. Tell them that if they get allocated any further 991GT3RS`s you want to be considered. (this is not unheard of I got my very first new GT3 this way it was a 996 MK1) On top of this give them a letter stating your intention to buy a 991.2 GT3RS in the future (probably 2018) They will be particularly interested in you if they think you will trade in your GT3 in the transaction as this is a car they can resell and make money on. Be nice of course but you will get there in the end, just don`t flog you GT3 privately its your ticket to the GT3RS. If you can`t get anywhere at all try other Porsche dealers it may be that your particular dealer has a load of really important regular wealthy Porsche buyers who support on the whole range and always buy RS as well. Apologies if this is old news / repost - if not : enjoy
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