RE: Bentley Arnage T: PH Buying Guide

RE: Bentley Arnage T: PH Buying Guide

Friday 3rd January 2014

Bentley Arnage T: PH Buying Guide

Resolved to buy a Bentley? What a coincidence - here's how to bag the perfect Arnage T!



It was quite a statement of intent from Bentley and its VW parent company when, in 2002, the Arnage T arrived as the most powerful four-door production saloon in the world. Now, a saloon with 450hp and 645lb ft of torque is not unusual, but more than a decade ago it set tongues wagging and set the Arnage T apart from its lesser sibling and, crucially, from its now distant Rolls-Royce cousin.

Search for Bentley Arnage Ts here

Arnage a pleasing intersection of classic and modern
Arnage a pleasing intersection of classic and modern
The Arnage T emerged from the bickering between BMW and VW as they scrapped over the sale of Bentley and Rolls-Royce. BMW had been supplying the engines for the Arnage at launch in 1998 and a V12 motor for the Rolls Seraph. However, when Volkswagen assumed ownership of Bentley, there was no way it would countenance an engine from an arch rival. With no other motor in its stable to replace the 4.4-litre BMW turbo V8, VW hastily revived the classic 6.75-litre V8 that has been in use in Rolls and Bentley models since the last 1950s.

Cosworth was tasked with bringing the engine up to date with twin Garrett T3 turbochargers. This boosted power to 400hp to begin with for the Arnage Red Label, which later became the R, and helped the car meet current emissions regulations. More boost took power to 450hp in 2002 for the launch of the Arnage T, which could see off 0-62mph in 5.8 seconds and head on to 168mph.

Various improvements and twin lights for post-05
Various improvements and twin lights for post-05
A facelift followed in 2004 for the 2005 model year with the engine developed to meet Euro4 emissions standards. It also brought a revised dash for better ergonomics, minor dash controls hidden behind wooden panels, a new sat-nav system, and revised rear suspension for a smoother ride. At the same time, 19-inch alloy wheels became standard for the T.

The year 2004 also saw the introduction of the T-24 to celebrate Bentley's six wins at Le Mans. The T-24 has carbon fibre in place of much of the Arnage's usual chrome trim, subtle Union Jack flags and louvres behind the front wheelarches. 24 T-24s were built for the US market, with a few more made for the UK and Europe.

Bentley went on to revise the Arnage T once more in 2006 for the 2007 model year. Power of the V8 engine went up to 500hp thanks to new low-inertia Mitsubishi turbochargers, while a new six-speed ZF automatic gearbox replaced the old four-speed GM unit to cope with torque of 737lb ft and deliver smoother shifts. Bosch ESP 5.7 traction and stability control was also made standard. Together, all of this helped top speed rise to 179mph and 0-62mph drop to 5.5 seconds.

Final Edition models desirable but pricey
Final Edition models desirable but pricey
While the R is all but mechanically identical to the T, the Arnage T is generally the more sought after. All of the advice in this guide applies to the R, but we'll concentrate on the T, which now costs from around £28,000 for sound cars all the way to £80,000 for the very best of the run-out Final Series models. When looking for any Arnage, a inspection by an acknowledged expert is essential and many offer this service for free.

 

 

 


PHer's view:
"In terms of the driving experience the car is brilliant. It will cruise all day at 90mph and return 17mpg. The acceleration is phenomenal, particularly with the amount of torque available at low to medium speed. I think I am quite a quick driver but I have yet to put it into sport! We took it down through France and the Alps this year and it behaved impeccably and with huge style."
Paul Marshall


Buying guide contents:
Introduction
Powertrain

Rolling Chassis

Body

Interior

Search for Bentley Arnage Ts here

 

 

 

 

 

 

   
Author
Discussion

Agent Orange

Original Poster:

2,194 posts

246 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
quotequote all
A couple of days into 2014 and we have an Arnage buying guide. Only on PH. Love it.

I really must own one of these at some point. On the whole I don't generally like the current Bentley models but the Arnage has always ticked every box for me. Lovely looking car.

V8 FOU

2,971 posts

147 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
quotequote all
May I be the first to say that this is cheaper (and probably faster) than an M135?

Damn fine car anyway. Got to be the best performance wafter. Ever.

ukmike2000

476 posts

168 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
quotequote all
Curse you Pistonheads! I thought the Arnage was my secret desire - now everybody will want one! lol


Grandfondo

12,241 posts

206 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
quotequote all
What type of person drives about in one of these monstrosities?

Busso GTA

178 posts

126 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
quotequote all
Grandfondo said:
What type of person drives about in one of these monstrosities?
Possibly someone who does not want to waft about in some predictable sheeple german uber barge ?

Randy Winkman

16,077 posts

189 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
quotequote all
I'm not one for "flash" cars - but I'd love to have one. I do think the pre-facelift version looks far better though.

LuS1fer

41,122 posts

245 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
quotequote all
Always fancied an Arnage.

humpbackmaniac

1,894 posts

241 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
quotequote all
Not many cars say "Get out of way PLEB!" like that grill in one's rear view!

A real Bentley, fantastic.

Grandfondo

12,241 posts

206 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
quotequote all
Busso GTA said:
Grandfondo said:
What type of person drives about in one of these monstrosities?
Possibly someone who does not want to waft about in some predictable sheeple german uber barge ?
Not sure if serious?

Schermerhorn

4,342 posts

189 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
quotequote all
From this in 1999

To this in 2008



Quite a transformation but it always remained classy.

J4CKO

41,438 posts

200 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
quotequote all
V8 FOU said:
May I be the first to say that this is cheaper (and probably faster) than an M135?

Damn fine car anyway. Got to be the best performance wafter. Ever.
Nah, 135i would be quicker but I dont think that is the point.

There is a lot of snobbery about the Continental, Footballers, Chavs etc etc, but someone I know has driven both extensively and says there is no comparison, the Continentals, Normal and Supersports he drove were light years ahead in every way, I had a quick go in the Supersports and was very impressed, something that big has no right to move like that, from a standstill it is almost like teleportation.

So, you can waft round in one of these and it is very nice but a Continental would be the better drive and much faster.


Fire99

9,844 posts

229 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
quotequote all
I guess technology and book figures would put this down as a bit of a relic, but there is a sense of 'occasion' that I can't get from later generation Bentley's.

Some cars invoke something that you cant quantify and this is one of those cars.

over_the_hill

3,186 posts

246 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
quotequote all
Would like to know what the average running costs are.

I expect the tyres are not cheap and something that size would chew them up fairly quickly.
Discs and pads are unlikely to be in the £20 Corsa price bracket either.

J4CKO

41,438 posts

200 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
quotequote all
over_the_hill said:
Would like to know what the average running costs are.

I expect the tyres are not cheap and something that size would chew them up fairly quickly.
Discs and pads are unlikely to be in the £20 Corsa price bracket either.
300 will be along to tell you you can DIY them for pennies biggrin

I kind of agree with him a little but I dont think most Bentley owners do their own spannering, these are probably quite a bit simpler than the Continentals but still probably need an experienced Bentley tech to do a lot of stuff on them, what kind of suspension do they have, is it like on a Roller with Spheres and stuff ?

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
quotequote all
Minor correction to the article: The Black label (450bhp) was actually the "std" engine and was developed/validated first, with the boost turned down for the Red label version (400bhp). In fact, the Black label had to have a second official power homologation, because first time around it made too much power (~475bhp). ;-)


Davey S2

13,087 posts

254 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
quotequote all
Father drives an Mulliner Arnage T and it's superb.

Torque is monsterous but its still a big car to try and hustle quickly.

Amazing car to waft in though and as long as you can afford the petrol and maintenance bills they are a bargain.



hehe at the bloke who drives a 6 Series calling these monstrosities.


Edited by Davey S2 on Thursday 2nd January 11:04


Edited by Davey S2 on Thursday 2nd January 11:29

Uncle John

4,279 posts

191 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
quotequote all
Lovely cars, always had a soft spot for these.

Elegant and classy yet somehow menacing, and very British.

Personally I haven't got the cojones muy grandes for the upkeep, like running a stately home there is the potential for very big bills around every corner.

over_the_hill

3,186 posts

246 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
quotequote all
J4CKO said:
over_the_hill said:
Would like to know what the average running costs are.

I expect the tyres are not cheap and something that size would chew them up fairly quickly.
Discs and pads are unlikely to be in the £20 Corsa price bracket either.
300 will be along to tell you you can DIY them for pennies biggrin

I kind of agree with him a little but I dont think most Bentley owners do their own spannering, these are probably quite a bit simpler than the Continentals but still probably need an experienced Bentley tech to do a lot of stuff on them, what kind of suspension do they have, is it like on a Roller with Spheres and stuff ?
Another factor is that these cars are ginormous so anyone thinking about it should make sure it will fit in the garage or on the drive and that they can get it into the multi-storey with the difficult entrance/exit for work

Kawasicki

13,076 posts

235 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
quotequote all
Driving one of these quickly is an exercise in joy.

If I was wealthy, I would have one in a heartbeat.

Wills2

22,740 posts

175 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
quotequote all
I would love one of the late models.