997s

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Marki

15,763 posts

271 months

Thursday 9th December 2004
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i like it , i like it a lot

rico

7,916 posts

256 months

Thursday 9th December 2004
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Saw another 997 today with non-standard alloys. Looks fantastic and i'm liking it more and more.

The square 5 spoke alloys that are standard are

But the non-standard ones look

clubsport

7,260 posts

259 months

Thursday 9th December 2004
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Drive one Rico.....then see what you think...currently in the classifieds if it works for you

rico

7,916 posts

256 months

Thursday 9th December 2004
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clubsport said:
Drive one Rico.....then see what you think...currently in the classifieds if it works for you

I'm sure if offers a different driving experience to the already available flavours of pork, but i was talking from a purely asthetical viewpoint

For £60-70k i'd still be looking for a GT2/GT3/RS of some description

C310

19 posts

231 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2005
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Not long to wait. I'm anticipating a March delivery-for a Seal Grey 997. I only hope that it is as good as the pundits say.

jjr1

3,023 posts

261 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2005
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Had mine a week and it is awesome. The cornering capabilities are unreal and if anyone thinks they need a 4wd version they really need to thrash this 2wd one before wasting their money on a heavier slower car that is likely to be less comunicative as well.

PS I love my standard Carrera S alloys which look far more muscular than the horrible Turbo look ones from previous cars.

C310

19 posts

231 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2005
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jjr, is there a breaking in period for a new car?

jjr1

3,023 posts

261 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2005
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Umm an interesting question as according to people on the net and my slaesman there are about 20 different opinions. Salesman said technically it is not necessary but allow maybe 500 miles to be on the safe side. Some say 1000 miles and some say 2000 miles but that maybe various countries trying to protect themselves (ie tell the Americans its really long to stop them filing law suits).

So I have made up my own version and lets just say it is very similar to a bikes running in period, if you intend to get full power out of it as opposed to longevity.

C310

19 posts

231 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2005
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Thanks jr. I'll let you know what the sales people advise in due course. Speaking of bikes I have a ZX10 on order, I get it in 2 weeks. I've gone power crazy recently.

jjr1

3,023 posts

261 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2005
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Good luck with the bike as they are a real awesome treat on a nice hot summers day I have a Fireblade and at the moment it is dying to go out for a spin and pulling a sad smile at me every time I pass it to go out in the car.

C310

19 posts

231 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2005
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jr, we appear to have a few things in common. My last sports bike was a Blade and the new 911(997) is a S also. I've got sunroof, parking sensors and sat nav. Please don't tell me I missed anything vital off. Seal grey with grey interior. Insurance is likely to be around £1300, any advice?

dealmaker

2,215 posts

255 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2005
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C310 said:
jr, we appear to have a few things in common. My last sports bike was a Blade and the new 911(997) is a S also. I've got sunroof, parking sensors and sat nav. Please don't tell me I missed anything vital off. Seal grey with grey interior. Insurance is likely to be around £1300, any advice?


Sport Chrono???

C310

19 posts

231 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2005
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Sport Chrono!

I may be wrong but the package is not so relevant for the 911S (manual) since there is already a sport button. I think it is more relevant for the tiptronic cars. The clock mounted on the dash is a bit of a pose and anyway I hope someone will be timing me when I take it on the track.

jjr1

3,023 posts

261 months

Thursday 3rd February 2005
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Mine has the 20mm dropped suspension and no Sport Chrono because if I want fun I just turn the PSM off. I have no other extras for two reasons, most add weight and secondly last time I highly specced my M3 it lost far more than a non specced car.

Oh one other extra a pair of laser jammers ;-)

granville

18,764 posts

262 months

Thursday 3rd February 2005
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Tres bien, looks 1st class.

I'm sure it's motoring nectar.

dealmaker

2,215 posts

255 months

Friday 4th February 2005
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C310 said:
Sport Chrono!

I may be wrong but the package is not so relevant for the 911S (manual) since there is already a sport button. I think it is more relevant for the tiptronic cars. The clock mounted on the dash is a bit of a pose and anyway I hope someone will be timing me when I take it on the track.


I think you are wrong - the "Sport" button you mention is what comes with the Sport Chrono pack - in manual cars - the standard S has a PASM button which allows you to firm up the suspension - but the "Sport" button (as part of the Sport Chrono Pack) changes the engine mapping to give a sharper throttle response - as well as switching the suspension for you.

In tiptronic cars it also changes the transmission mapping.

Pat Cash

312 posts

231 months

Friday 4th February 2005
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Dealmaker is spot on with the Sport Chrono info - its effective on both transmission variants. In 'sport' it enhances the throttle map, giving sharper response and also giving a hard revlimit rather than a soft cut as used in 'normal' mode, allowing full use of power/torque right up to the limit.

On cars with Tip, it immediately puts the controller into the sportier end of the shift map range (of which there are approx 250)giving harder/faster shifts, holding higher revs etc etc etc.

PSM is pushed into a less intrusive map, allowing the car to get further out of shape before it kicks in. Also it affects PSM function when the PSM is switched 'off'. As you may be aware, the PSM is never really switched off, it merely puts the Vehicle Dynamic Control element of the PSM software into standby - We still have ABS function etc etc. On 996/986 etc, if the vehicle was out of shape, the VDC would kick back in if the brake pedal was pressed at all, to help correct the car, then go back into standby. On 997/987 now if the PSM is 'off' the VDC comes back in only under much harder brake application. This boundary is pushed out even farther when the vehicle is in also 'sport' and then PSM is switched 'off'... If this makes sense!

If the car has PASM then the suspension automatically goes into 'sport' also.

Also on the 'Chrono' side of the package, you also get the Chronometer on the dashboard and on cars with PCM (Sports Chrono Plus)you then get the lap logging/review facility, which is ok. Also included in the package is the Individual Memory, which allows individual settings such as climate control settings, orientation and home lighting function personalisation, door locking/unlocking fuctions, rain sensor fucntions etc etc etc to be personalised to individual vehicle keys. So you can have the climate etc automatically set to you preference when you use your key to access/start the car, and the missus can have hers when shes using her key on the car.

Quite a lot to the package... The difference that the 'sport' button makes to the car is marked, and the other stuff is fine, if you're into that sort of thing. But for only another £500ish its a MUST HAVE if only for the 'sport' button...

Sorry VERY long and boring....