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IIRC the turbo Mezger has different internals to the GT3 & RS variant, which enable the higher rev ranges.
I do get why some can't engage with the turbo, but equally, on it's day and a use any day, no fear of rain or road defects hurling you into a hedge, they make a compelling case. It is though, a very subjective matter.
I do get why some can't engage with the turbo, but equally, on it's day and a use any day, no fear of rain or road defects hurling you into a hedge, they make a compelling case. It is though, a very subjective matter.
I didn't get with my turbo coming from a high revving NA RWD at first. I've since found a new love for the turbo. The sheer torque and traction out of corners is great fun. The 4WD is very rear biased so feels RWD most of the time. Rear engine handling can be used mid bend to rotate the car a little to help tighten your line. Love the looks - front rad grills, low side profile and epic wide-body stance from the rear. Steering feel is epic and love the planted feel of the thing. Exhaust note is pretty s
te but can be sorted for £2k with a performance exhaust. It's no lotus Elise in terms of driving experience but very good for what it is; a 1500kg sports/GT car.
te but can be sorted for £2k with a performance exhaust. It's no lotus Elise in terms of driving experience but very good for what it is; a 1500kg sports/GT car.Onetrackmind said:
I didn't get with my turbo coming from a high revving NA RWD at first. I've since found a new love for the turbo. The sheer torque and traction out of corners is great fun. The 4WD is very rear biased so feels RWD most of the time. Rear engine handling can be used mid bend to rotate the car a little to help tighten your line. Love the looks - front rad grills, low side profile and epic wide-body stance from the rear. Steering feel is epic and love the planted feel of the thing. Exhaust note is pretty ste but can be sorted for £2k with a performance exhaust. It's no lotus Elise in terms of driving experience but very good for what it is; a 1500kg sports/GT car.
Good post. (except EVO still class it as a 'supercar', as do I te but can be sorted for £2k with a performance exhaust. It's no lotus Elise in terms of driving experience but very good for what it is; a 1500kg sports/GT car.
)A good exhaust and some fixed bucket seats are all that's needed to really make a 996t very special.
Onetrackmind said:
Rear engine handling can be used mid bend to rotate the car a little to help tighten your line.
Slightly O/T but all my 996tt driving has been on raod, within sensible limits. It was only taking the PEC Silverstone 991 onto the various wet/low friction areas, with the PSM off that I really 'knew' how the rear engine handling worked and I have to say it confirmed what I'd suspected from my own car - it really is superb.No doubt certain earlier cars may have earned a reputation for being tricky, but I found the 911 handling pretty inspiring, 2WD or 4WD.
gemini said:
Adam B said:
There is a lot of wishful thinking along these lines at the moment, I am thinking that over time the 993 turbo prices rises might rub off though not sure why 996 turbo would rise more than 997 turbo which has same Mezger engine,
He says as a totally biased 997 turbo owner of one week
He says as a totally biased 997 turbo owner of one week
Similar 996 now at 43-47k, similar cars to my 997 in classifieds are 52-55k. So I was not far off.
Not that I bought as investment, I will be delighted to run a lovely car for a few more years and come out flat, still like both 996 and 997 turbos but don't regret my choice
Adam B said:
still like both 996 and 997 turbos but don't regret my choice
996tt vs. 997tt is a running debate isn't it?Personally, when you get into it, they are outwardly very similar cars but to the proper enthusiast/anorak/beard/saddo [delete as you see fit] very different. I'd prefer to say that they complement each other very well - rather than be partisan. IMHO there's not a "right" or "wrong" choice there, as with the case between manual or auto in general.
Adam B said:
I have driven both and IMHO the differences are overblown by "proper enthusiast/anorak/beard/saddo [delete as you see fit]"
I haven't, but intuitively, I can't see how, dynamically, there's that much difference, perhaps with exception of the fact that late 7.2s didn't get the Mezger factor.As for the interiors, I see the 996 harks back somewhat, whereas the 997 looks forward; it's pretty much up to date in there and certainly not a major step backward from the 991, other than perhaps crapnav.
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But are you just saying this as a biased owner?
I won't bully the 996 here - no modern 911 Turbo has these traits. They are undoubtedly quick, but feel very restrained. As an 'analogue' experience, as you put it, i wonder what a Turbo gives the driver over a naturally aspirated 911?
So for me, a 996 Turbo represented great bang for buck. Yeah, they don't look quite right, but you got nigh on 200mph performance and Porsche badge for £30k. If they get suckered into the Porsche bubble, then you have to remove the blinkers and start having a look around at what you can get for £50k - there are a lot of options out there
The standard car is quick, a tuned car is up to 25 % more urgent. Different car, different experience altogether.
And where do you get a sensible mileage manual Turbo for 30K now? that boat has sailed,
they are between 40 - 50 for the best cars.
And speaking of 50k, and if performance is your thing, what else is there? aside another
911 turbo? Most other cars are just fast family saloons, they started life as a family car,
that's the baseline model, then they just tune them up...
But are you just saying this as a biased owner?
I won't bully the 996 here - no modern 911 Turbo has these traits. They are undoubtedly quick, but feel very restrained. As an 'analogue' experience, as you put it, i wonder what a Turbo gives the driver over a naturally aspirated 911?
So for me, a 996 Turbo represented great bang for buck. Yeah, they don't look quite right, but you got nigh on 200mph performance and Porsche badge for £30k. If they get suckered into the Porsche bubble, then you have to remove the blinkers and start having a look around at what you can get for £50k - there are a lot of options out there
The standard car is quick, a tuned car is up to 25 % more urgent. Different car, different experience altogether.
And where do you get a sensible mileage manual Turbo for 30K now? that boat has sailed,
they are between 40 - 50 for the best cars.
And speaking of 50k, and if performance is your thing, what else is there? aside another
911 turbo? Most other cars are just fast family saloons, they started life as a family car,
that's the baseline model, then they just tune them up...
Edited by The Red Devil on Friday 8th April 21:14
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