991 GT3 Owners/Depositors Group Action

[Sierra Mike]

Let's keep this thread focused on the job at hand.

A number of GT3 owners have been in touch with me and I'm collating all of the information into a spreadsheet. Some owners from other markets would also like to join in and they're welcome. Collectively the more owners/depositors we have, the more leverage we have. Right now for the UK alone we're knocking on £2.5m worth of cars and there are still many who haven't PM'd me yet.

With customers from other markets included, the value will be significant and the objective will be to focus attention directly at PAG rather than PCGB or OPCs. At the end of the day, they receive their instructions from Germany and they can only do what they're told to do. Hopefully we'll get a satisfactory result out of this for everyone.

Let's not discuss specifics/details online but keep that offline.

Keep the PMs coming. Thanks.

[APOLO1]

isaldiri said:

Mermaid said:

Apolo, you have access to top legal bods (I think I read that on the other thread) - why don't you use your people since you are probably the most passionate richest of this disenfranchised group.

EFA

far from it.......

[Sierra Mike]

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Many others have PM'd me but not specified they have done so on this thread. I will endeavour to send a confirmation email to everyone but I suggest that you register your interest here on the thread as well. If Modo66 hadn't posted to this thread, I would not have known to expect a PM from him. It also represents a collective show of force that we're getting together as a group. Please direct attention to this thread with other owner/depositor PHers who are posting on the main 991 GT3 thread and let's increase our numbers. Thanks.

[SonnyM]

paranha said:

Kings New Clothes syndrome----What Problems!!!--Join with your American PH,s and benefit from their assistance, as they have due to Market numbers.What is the situation in Germany for owners?.Do you think for a second, that their treatment is the same as yours?Contact ALL European owners, thru the Net--and present a Co-ordinated front.

The days of "They All do that Sir" are long gone--

Do not take litigation with Porsche lightly. Group action could drag on for longer than the period you own the car and whether you win or lose costs could be greater than any compensation.

That said getting everybody together to present a case is the best approach. Hell get Hammond on board too...

[Sierra Mike]

SonnyM said:

Do not take litigation with Porsche lightly. Group action could drag on for longer than the period you own the car and whether you win or lose costs could be greater than any compensation.

That said getting everybody together to present a case is the best approach. Hell get Hammond on board too...

There's a distinct difference between the expressions 'group action' and 'class action'. Group action does not mean legal action, it means action as a group. In the first instance, we just need to get everyone together. I hope that clarifies the situation.

[GRBF430F1]

I bailed out a long time ago but wish you good luck with any action against those dodgy German bar stewards

[RushSpeed]

Pm sent. Let's go smashing heads.

[Mermaid]

RushSpeed said:

Pm sent. Let's go smashing heads.

Reasonable expectations, no disappointments and you keep faith with the product. If you did not care for the product, you would have bailed out already - only the faithful remaining.

Enjoyment of the car is No.1 priority, litigation ((i.e fools game) can happen in the background.

[DAEDALUS]

You missed me off your list......

[Sierra Mike]

DAEDALUS said:

You missed me off your list......

I didn't want to be presumptuous that the people who have PM'd me but hadn't commented on the thread would want me to reveal their identities. Apologies if you thought I'd left you out because, rest assured, you're on the spreadsheet!

[Mermaid]

Hope Apolo1 is on the spreadsheet.

[Sierra Mike]

Mermaid said:

Hope Apolo1 is on the spreadsheet.

I'm doing my best to maintain discretion therefore I'm only collating the names on this thread of those people who have openly declared their support. I encourage everyone who's contacted me by PM to also make their support known on this thread. It helps ensure that no PMs go astray as I can cross check support on the this thread to my PMs.

[APOLO1]

Sierra Mike said:

Mermaid said:

Hope Apolo1 is on the spreadsheet.

I'm doing my best to maintain discretion therefore I'm only collating the names on this thread of those people who have openly declared their support. I encourage everyone who's contacted me by PM to also make their support known on this thread. It helps ensure that no PMs go astray as I can cross check support on the this thread to my PMs.

Hi Mike
Put me on.. Safe trip home. Spoke with GB this afternoon, astonished at the attitude of these people.

[HoHoHo]

APOLO1 said:

Sierra Mike said:

Mermaid said:

Hope Apolo1 is on the spreadsheet.

I'm doing my best to maintain discretion therefore I'm only collating the names on this thread of those people who have openly declared their support. I encourage everyone who's contacted me by PM to also make their support known on this thread. It helps ensure that no PMs go astray as I can cross check support on the this thread to my PMs.

Hi Mike
Put me on.. Safe trip home. Spoke with GB this afternoon, astonished at the attitude of these people.

I thought you were Porsche GB Apolo1

[APOLO1]

HoHoHo said:

APOLO1 said:

Sierra Mike said:

Mermaid said:

Hope Apolo1 is on the spreadsheet.

I'm doing my best to maintain discretion therefore I'm only collating the names on this thread of those people who have openly declared their support. I encourage everyone who's contacted me by PM to also make their support known on this thread. It helps ensure that no PMs go astray as I can cross check support on the this thread to my PMs.

Hi Mike
Put me on.. Safe trip home. Spoke with GB this afternoon, astonished at the attitude of these people.

I thought you were Porsche GB Apolo1

To be fair, its not there fault. PAG are pulling the shots. We going to be offered

"a one time payment when we get our cars back. This will not be based on an amount per day, it will the same for all regions....rate adjusted"

[Sierra Mike]

APOLO1 said:

Hi Mike
Put me on.. Safe trip home. Spoke with GB this afternoon, astonished at the attitude of these people.

Thanks APOLO1.

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[DAEDALUS]

Feel free to add me to the "registered" list. And thanks for taking the time and trouble to start organising this.

[SonnyM]

Sierra Mike said:

SonnyM said:

Do not take litigation with Porsche lightly. Group action could drag on for longer than the period you own the car and whether you win or lose costs could be greater than any compensation.

That said getting everybody together to present a case is the best approach. Hell get Hammond on board too...

There's a distinct difference between the expressions 'group action' and 'class action'. Group action does not mean legal action, it means action as a group. In the first instance, we just need to get everyone together. I hope that clarifies the situation.

Yes it does. All the best with this - your effort is appreciated

[Sierra Mike]

DAEDALUS said:

Feel free to add me to the "registered" list. And thanks for taking the time and trouble to start organising this.

Sorry DAEDALUS - you're definitely on the list now.

Macca brought to my attention that a number of Rennlisters want to join us so we've posted a similar thread over there. This is fast becoming a global collaborative effort resulting from Porsche's poor handling of the situation. The more the merrier. Thank you for your support.

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[WCZ]

APOLO1 said:

"a one time payment when we get our cars back. This will not be based on an amount per day, it will the same for all regions....rate adjusted"

any idea what this will be in the region of? a percentage of the list price of the car?