991 GT3 . Best Performance car 2014

991 GT3 . Best Performance car 2014

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APOLO1

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5,256 posts

194 months

Monday 21st April 2014
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Says it all, this despite the engine woes....

http://teamspeed.com/articles/porsche-911-gt3-name...

mhh

1,558 posts

242 months

Monday 21st April 2014
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Already been discussed. It's a disgrace.

APOLO1

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194 months

Monday 21st April 2014
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sorry when did I miss this, I take it the list included the 650S, P1, and the new Lambo?

mhh

1,558 posts

242 months

Monday 21st April 2014
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APOLO1 said:
sorry when did I miss this, I take it the list included the 650S, P1, and the new Lambo?
It started here in the main Vol 2 thread.

As a driving machine, no argument. But accepting an award like this when every single car of the "award winning" model Porsche has built can't be driven shows a lack of character somewhere in PCNA management.

For some reason, I can't find any mention of this proud achievement on Porsche's Facebook page. I wonder why not. rolleyes


ClockEm said:
Can someone explain how they got this award for a car that has a defective engine and they have not been on the road since January?
Fifth generation 911 GT3 takes top honors

Atlanta. At a ceremony at the New York Auto Show this morning, the Porsche 911 GT3 was named the 2014 World Performance Car.

The World Car Awards (WCA) are presented annually in four categories – Car Design, Green Car, Performance Car and Car of the Year. Winners are determined by an international panel of 69 automotive journalists from 22 countries. Jurors are appointed by the World Car Awards’ Steering Committee based on automotive expertise, experience, credibility and influence.

“To be chosen as the winner of the World Performance Car by this global jury is extremely rewarding,” said Detlev von Platen, president and CEO of Porsche Cars North America. “Each generation of the 911 GT3 epitomizes our vision of the ultimate pure bred, track ready sports car. And our newest iteration is no exception. To be elected against such formidable competitors by a large number of auto experts pays a huge compliment to our designers and engineers.”

Since the inception of the World Car of the Year Awards, Porsche has won World Performance Car three time; for the Boxster and Cayman 2013, 911 in 2012 and for the Cayman, again, in 2006. The fifth-generation 911 GT3 is the latest top performing naturally aspirated 911 from Porsche. Completely redesigned, it is lighter, more powerful and more fuel efficient than its predecessor. A wider front track and advanced technology like active rear wheel steering enhance the driving experience.

Delivering 475 hp, the 3.8-liter horizontally opposed rear mounted 6-cylinder engine is mated to a seven-speed Porsche-Doppelkupplingsgetriebe (PDK) transmission which drives the rear wheels. Acceleration from zero to 60 mph is just 3.3 seconds and top track speed is 195 mph. The 911 GT3 MSRP in the U.S. is $130,400, not including a $995 destination charge.

More pictures are located on our press site here: http://press.porsche.com/media/gallery2/v/photos/h...

About Porsche Cars North America

Porsche Cars North America, Inc. (PCNA), based in Atlanta, Ga. is the exclusive U.S. importer of Porsche sports cars, including the Macan and Cayenne SUVs and the Panamera sports sedan. Established in 1984, it is a wholly-owned subsidiary of Porsche AG, which is headquartered in Stuttgart, Germany, and employs approximately 270 people who provide parts, service, marketing and training for 189 dealers. They, in turn, work to provide Porsche customers with a best-in-class experience that is in keeping with the brand’s 66-year history and leadership in the advancement of vehicle performance, safety, and efficiency.

At the core of this success is Porsche's proud racing heritage that boasts some 30,000 motorsport wins to date.

Connect with us socially: http://www.twitter.com/Porsche,http://www.Facebook.com/Porsche,http://drive.porsche.com/us and http://www.instagram.com/Porsche

For Porsche apps: http://www.porsche.com/usa/entertainment/apps/

Note: Photos and video footage are available to accredited journalists on the Porsche Press Database at http://press.porsche.com/

Article posted on: Apr 17, 2014
Edited by mhh on Monday 21st April 09:37

mikem7709

977 posts

212 months

Monday 21st April 2014
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I'm sure it'll really motivate Porsche to improve their customer service skills.

mollytherocker

14,366 posts

209 months

Monday 21st April 2014
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I guess it just proves that this stuff is utter nonsense.

Back slapping, brown envelope, mates on the golf course, gentlemans club, brown nosing bks.

It could seriously back fire if the media decide to make a story of it.

AndrewD

7,537 posts

284 months

Monday 21st April 2014
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Maybe Porsche should be directing efforts towards actually telling owners when their cars will be on the road again, rather than trying to demonstrate meaningless share of voice type stats to Stuttgart.

Totally out of touch with their customers.

Skittles001

665 posts

263 months

Monday 21st April 2014
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mollytherocker said:
I guess it just proves that this stuff is utter nonsense.

Back slapping, brown envelope, mates on the golf course, gentlemans club, brown nosing bks.

It could seriously back fire if the media decide to make a story of it.
That's an interesting point. Why is there no real motoring media coverage of the engine issues? Is it that the plight of 780ish cars is inconsequential or is it they don't dare?

"Ignoring" the engine failures is one thing; giving awards to a car that can't be driven is quite surprising to say the least ...

NJH

3,021 posts

209 months

Monday 21st April 2014
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Simple answer is the one many just don't want to hear but has been well known to be the truth for decades, the media relies on the good will of the car companies in order to be supplied with the very thing they need to have a media business i.e. cars to review. One can ps off and give bad reviews on small companies products from some country you never knew made cars but upset VAG, or Ferrari etc. and your media business is in trouble if your business is news and reviews of cars.

APOLO1

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5,256 posts

194 months

Monday 21st April 2014
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NJH said:
Simple answer is the one many just don't want to hear but has been well known to be the truth for decades, the media relies on the good will of the car companies in order to be supplied with the very thing they need to have a media business i.e. cars to review. One can ps off and give bad reviews on small companies products from some country you never knew made cars but upset VAG, or Ferrari etc. and your media business is in trouble if your business is news and reviews of cars.

is this why the engine problem, gets very little or even no time on here or in Junros...

Carl_Docklands

12,165 posts

262 months

Monday 21st April 2014
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World performance car that you can't drive, you can't make this stuff up.

Porsche own goal, I wonder how many more bloopers like this they will get away with before the brand is permanently damaged.




isaldiri

18,537 posts

168 months

Monday 21st April 2014
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mollytherocker said:
I guess it just proves that this stuff is utter nonsense.

Back slapping, brown envelope, mates on the golf course, gentlemans club, brown nosing bks.

It could seriously back fire if the media decide to make a story of it.
^ this..

Am also impressed the head of PCNA can sprout the following "911 GT3 epitomizes our vision of the ultimate pure bred, track ready sports car. And our newest iteration is no exception"" with a straight face when every single car right now cannot be driven...

paranha

633 posts

242 months

Monday 21st April 2014
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IF you say/post/announce something many times, those that WANT to believe will--and are of the Kings NEW Clothes following--others who doubt the message is Correct, will have an uphill fight to get justice.

Never accept what YOU know is incorrect, NO matter how long it takes for the Correct action to take place-----The amazing point in this subject, is its Not One-Two prospective clients, but many with worldwide knowledge of the ongoing Lack of PR and a Reputation gained, which can be tarnished in todays global, dotCom.
VAG need to wake up--before the denial of poor support for its clients, tarnishes the Group.

drmark

4,824 posts

186 months

Monday 21st April 2014
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paranha said:
IF you say/post/announce something many times, those that WANT to believe will--and are of the Kings NEW Clothes following--others who doubt the message is Correct, will have an uphill fight to get justice.

Never accept what YOU know is incorrect, NO matter how long it takes for the Correct action to take place-----The amazing point in this subject, is its Not One-Two prospective clients, but many with worldwide knowledge of the ongoing Lack of PR and a Reputation gained, which can be tarnished in todays global, dotCom.
VAG need to wake up--before the denial of poor support for its clients, tarnishes the Group.
Porsche really don't give a toss what you, me or anyone on here thinks. We are a tiny minority. Most people who aspire to a Porsche don't know what a GT3 is, let alone that it was released with a duff engine (potentially). Witness OPCs selling returned GT3s for list or more. People are queuing up to buy returns even though they can't drive them.

PR and brand management is all about perception, not reality. Best not to confuse the two wink

APOLO1

Original Poster:

5,256 posts

194 months

Monday 21st April 2014
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drmark said:
paranha said:
IF you say/post/announce something many times, those that WANT to believe will--and are of the Kings NEW Clothes following--others who doubt the message is Correct, will have an uphill fight to get justice.

Never accept what YOU know is incorrect, NO matter how long it takes for the Correct action to take place-----The amazing point in this subject, is its Not One-Two prospective clients, but many with worldwide knowledge of the ongoing Lack of PR and a Reputation gained, which can be tarnished in todays global, dotCom.
VAG need to wake up--before the denial of poor support for its clients, tarnishes the Group.
Porsche really don't give a toss what you, me or anyone on here thinks. We are a tiny minority. Most people who aspire to a Porsche don't know what a GT3 is, let alone that it was released with a duff engine (potentially). Witness OPCs selling returned GT3s for list or more. People are queuing up to buy returns even though they can't drive them.

PR and brand management is all about perception, not reality. Best not to confuse the two wink

I disagree.
We are the 4th largest market for Porsche, what else can they do, they did not ask for the award, this is not like a auto-car, evo, jobbie, this is the award voted for via the worlds press.....It does not get any bigger....what are they to say, "no we don't want it give to Ferrari"

As for people who aspire to a Porsche do not know what a GT3 is, nothing could be further from the truth......

drmark

4,824 posts

186 months

Monday 21st April 2014
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APOLO1 said:

I disagree.
We are the 4th largest market for Porsche, what else can they do, they did not ask for the award, this is not like a auto-car, evo, jobbie, this is the award voted for via the worlds press.....It does not get any bigger....what are they to say, "no we don't want it give to Ferrari"

As for people who aspire to a Porsche do not know what a GT3 is, nothing could be further from the truth......
Of course they accepted - my point was in answer to the poster's belief that this would somehow permanently seriously damage Porsche's image globally. I believe that is not true.

As for knowing what a GT3 is, I beg to differ - most Porsche customers, who have never heard of Pistonheads either ( like most Cayenne and would-be-Macan drivers in China and LA) have NO idea. A significant proportion of Porsche drivers are not even committed car enthusiasts these days, let alone Porsche enthusiasts. Unlike us. More's the pity

APOLO1

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drmark said:
APOLO1 said:

I disagree.
We are the 4th largest market for Porsche, what else can they do, they did not ask for the award, this is not like a auto-car, evo, jobbie, this is the award voted for via the worlds press.....It does not get any bigger....what are they to say, "no we don't want it give to Ferrari"

As for people who aspire to a Porsche do not know what a GT3 is, nothing could be further from the truth......
Of course they accepted - my point was in answer to the poster's belief that this would somehow permanently seriously damage Porsche's image globally. I believe that is not true.

As for knowing what a GT3 is, I beg to differ - most Porsche customers, who have never heard of Pistonheads either ( like most Cayenne and would-be-Macan drivers in China and LA) have NO idea. A significant proportion of Porsche drivers are not even committed car enthusiasts these days, let alone Porsche enthusiasts. Unlike us. More's the pity

I take your 1st point,

But your are not correct on the later....PH is not just in the UK, there any many Porsche forums around the world, all have info on the GT3,ie rennlist, teamspeed. The GT3 issue is also discussed on other car forums.......extensively

I have friends, client's all around the world, some own a Porsche some do not, all ask regularly about my GT3s.......

drmark

4,824 posts

186 months

Monday 21st April 2014
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Aye, but only a fraction of Porsche owners worldwide access forums like this.
I think we tend to have warped perception of issues like this - truth is we are not typical Porsche owners. IMO anyway. Hope you are right and I am wrong.

nsm3

2,831 posts

196 months

Monday 21st April 2014
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Bet it won't be getting the JDP ownership experience award?

Helicopter123

8,831 posts

156 months

Monday 21st April 2014
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Not bad going for a trim level with a chocolate engine!

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