GT3 RS prices

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Robbo66

3,828 posts

232 months

Wednesday 4th June 2014
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Alpinestars said:
If it's all down to rarity, the 6RS is going to be a gilt edged investment.
Not IMO....not in the slightest.

APOLO1

5,256 posts

193 months

Wednesday 4th June 2014
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911dullard said:
APOLO1 said:
The 2.7s had enjoyed much more of a race history....and you had the side shows, ie the RSRs ect...2.8s and 3.0s

If the 6RS was going to do anything price wise, it would have done so before now, I have sold 4, 4.0s, 3 to collectors', whilst the 993RS is gaining traction, there is no interest from a colleting point in the 6RS.......none at all....

Edited by APOLO1 on Wednesday 4th June 13:31
JZM have recently sold 2 under the radar to people that have them looking out for them.

But as you say there is no interest in them!
at what price..? I know the largest P collator's in Asia....when I mention the 6RS they laugh..

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911dullard

133 posts

118 months

Wednesday 4th June 2014
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APOLO1 said:
at what price..? I know the largest P collator's in Asia....when I mention the 6RS they laugh..

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they just sold one at 100 they were late 50's 18 months back

APOLO1

5,256 posts

193 months

Wednesday 4th June 2014
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911dullard said:
APOLO1 said:
at what price..? I know the largest P collator's in Asia....when I mention the 6RS they laugh..

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they just sold one at 100 they were late 50's 18 months back
like all RS models, they have risen on the coat tails of the 2.7s ect, there is no increase in price the due to the intrinsic appreciation of the car....

911dullard

133 posts

118 months

Wednesday 4th June 2014
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APOLO1 said:
like all RS models, they have risen on the coat tails of the 2.7s ect, there is no increase in price the due to the intrinsic appreciation of the car....
That's opinion nothing more. The fact remains the car has risen in value

APOLO1

5,256 posts

193 months

Wednesday 4th June 2014
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911dullard said:
APOLO1 said:
like all RS models, they have risen on the coat tails of the 2.7s ect, there is no increase in price the due to the intrinsic appreciation of the car....
That's opinion nothing more. The fact remains the car has risen in value
but nothing like the one before it or after.....because its a dog....

MSR12c

128 posts

122 months

Wednesday 4th June 2014
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One collector's opinion in Asia hardly makes a market. Rarity is all. Fewer than 700 6Rs's built, probably less now survive than 997RS 4.0ltr cars. They are not as good as the 997RS but then they are 7years less developed. Drive a 1973, 2.7RS against probably any modern (post 1990's) 911, indeed any contemporary hot hatch, they are slow, do not handle as well, it is not relevant to the market. We can all just speculate and time will tell of course.

911dullard

133 posts

118 months

Wednesday 4th June 2014
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APOLO1 said:
but nothing like the one before it or after.....because its a dog....
Ok in your opinion it maybe but in others opinions it may not be . Others may dislike the 4ltr for whatever reason that's their prerogative

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...


Yellow491

2,911 posts

118 months

Wednesday 4th June 2014
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Alpinestars said:
This may well be wrong, but from a quick Google search, there were c1600 2.7s made, 1000 993 RS', 1300 964 RS' and ONLY 700 996 RS'.

There appear to be around c1900 7.1s, and c1600 7.2s. So the 7.2 is almost as rare as the 2.7, but the 2.7 is nowhere near as rare as a 6RS, yet is hugely more expensive. I'm not sure rarity on its own is the factor which decides the relative price between the Porks. It seems to have more to do with "coming of age".

If it's all down to rarity, the 6RS is going to be a gilt edged investment.
Google is not correct,more like 2500 964,the 2.7 is not rare either really.If the 4 price stays up at its crazy level it will drag the 3.8 up with it,why its at this value at the moment is baffling me some what,idid not think it was worth the list price extra over a 3.8,at the time.

Yellow491

2,911 posts

118 months

Wednesday 4th June 2014
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APOLO1 said:
The 2.7s had enjoyed much more of a race history....and you had the side shows, ie the RSRs ect...2.8s and 3.0s

If the 6RS was going to do anything price wise, it would have done so before now, I have sold 4, 4.0s, 3 to collectors', whilst the 993RS is gaining traction, there is no interest from a colleting point in the 6RS.......none at all....

Edited by APOLO1 on Wednesday 4th June 13:31
Oh apolo you come out with some nonsense,the 2.7 enjoyed very little race history,it was born to homologate the 2.8 rsr,which is certainly no side show car.I suppose you consider these dogs also.rolleyes

Yellow491

2,911 posts

118 months

Wednesday 4th June 2014
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MSR12c said:
One collector's opinion in Asia hardly makes a market. Rarity is all. Fewer than 700 6Rs's built, probably less now survive than 997RS 4.0ltr cars. They are not as good as the 997RS but then they are 7years less developed. Drive a 1973, 2.7RS against probably any modern (post 1990's) 911, indeed any contemporary hot hatch, they are slow, do not handle as well, it is not relevant to the market. We can all just speculate and time will tell of course.
With all due respect your thoughts on the 2.7 is not correct,they are not slow and handle better than most.
It will be nice to see the 996 perform well at some point in value,they certainly go well enough and rare enough to be wanted at some point.

isaldiri

18,411 posts

167 months

Wednesday 4th June 2014
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APOLO1 said:
but nothing like the one before it or after.....because its a dog....
You called the 4.0 RS a dog as well and 4.0 values have went up by rather a lot...?

The 6RS will go up and by rather a lot in time IMO with the production numbers and the way the car drives. In some respects it could probably be considered the last of the RS cars rather than the 4.0.

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

243 months

Wednesday 4th June 2014
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APOLO1 said:
911dullard said:
APOLO1 said:
at what price..? I know the largest P collator's in Asia....when I mention the 6RS they laugh..

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they just sold one at 100 they were late 50's 18 months back
like all RS models, they have risen on the coat tails of the 2.7s ect, there is no increase in price the due to the intrinsic appreciation of the car....
What does intrinsic appreciation mean? Tracking the intrinsic value of the car?

MSR12c

128 posts

122 months

Wednesday 4th June 2014
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Yellow491 said:
With all due respect your thoughts on the 2.7 is not correct,they are not slow and handle better than most.
It will be nice to see the 996 perform well at some point in value,they certainly go well enough and rare enough to be wanted at some point.
By current standards it is a relatively slow car (0-60 about 6.3 secs). It does not handle as safely or progressively as a current GTI. In 1973 it was a revelation but technology has moved on. Bring out a £100+k sports car today with the same acceleration and handling traits and it would be labelled a dud. I was not comparing like with like, merely trying to suggest that by current standards the performance is no great shakes. The earlier posts were comparing aged with modern, hence the relevance.

APOLO1

5,256 posts

193 months

Wednesday 4th June 2014
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Yellow491 said:
Alpinestars said:
This may well be wrong, but from a quick Google search, there were c1600 2.7s made, 1000 993 RS', 1300 964 RS' and ONLY 700 996 RS'.

There appear to be around c1900 7.1s, and c1600 7.2s. So the 7.2 is almost as rare as the 2.7, but the 2.7 is nowhere near as rare as a 6RS, yet is hugely more expensive. I'm not sure rarity on its own is the factor which decides the relative price between the Porks. It seems to have more to do with "coming of age".

If it's all down to rarity, the 6RS is going to be a gilt edged investment.
Google is not correct,more like 2500 964,the 2.7 is not rare either really.If the 4 price stays up at its crazy level it will drag the 3.8 up with it,why its at this value at the moment is baffling me some what,idid not think it was worth the list price extra over a 3.8,at the time.
you talk stupid, you have no idea as to why a RHD low miles 4.0 is over 315k, or why it will be 500k within the next 12 months, also to say the 4.0 is not worth the extra 10k over the Gen 2 is just mad.....

APOLO1

5,256 posts

193 months

Wednesday 4th June 2014
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isaldiri said:
APOLO1 said:
The 6RS will go up and by rather a lot in time IMO with the production numbers and the way the car drives. In some respects it could probably be considered the last of the RS cars rather than the 4.0.
you are having a laugh now.....right

APOLO1

5,256 posts

193 months

Wednesday 4th June 2014
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Yellow491 said:
MSR12c said:
One collector's opinion in Asia hardly makes a market. Rarity is all. Fewer than 700 6Rs's built, probably less now survive than 997RS 4.0ltr cars. They are not as good as the 997RS but then they are 7years less developed. Drive a 1973, 2.7RS against probably any modern (post 1990's) 911, indeed any contemporary hot hatch, they are slow, do not handle as well, it is not relevant to the market. We can all just speculate and time will tell of course.
With all due respect your thoughts on the 2.7 is not correct,they are not slow and handle better than most.
not in its day maybe......but come on......Golf GTI twisty rd....but that's not what the 2.7s are about is it

LaSource

2,622 posts

207 months

Wednesday 4th June 2014
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Just for info, I've driven in a 6GT3 with a 2.7RS in tow...I can confirm the 2.7RS is not slow!
The circa 300kg reduced weight adds a lot of performance!

APOLO1

5,256 posts

193 months

Wednesday 4th June 2014
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Yellow491 said:
the 2.7RS enjoyed very little race history,
This has to be the most perverse comment in the history of PH, now I know you are a child.....

You were right Rob......

LaSource

2,622 posts

207 months

Wednesday 4th June 2014
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As for the different GT3 variants....they all have slight differences and therefore have slightly different supporters. With respect, I do not think any of them are 'dogs'.