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911dullard said:
APOLO1 said:
The 2.7s had enjoyed much more of a race history....and you had the side shows, ie the RSRs ect...2.8s and 3.0s
If the 6RS was going to do anything price wise, it would have done so before now, I have sold 4, 4.0s, 3 to collectors', whilst the 993RS is gaining traction, there is no interest from a colleting point in the 6RS.......none at all....
JZM have recently sold 2 under the radar to people that have them looking out for them.If the 6RS was going to do anything price wise, it would have done so before now, I have sold 4, 4.0s, 3 to collectors', whilst the 993RS is gaining traction, there is no interest from a colleting point in the 6RS.......none at all....
Edited by APOLO1 on Wednesday 4th June 13:31
But as you say there is no interest in them!
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911dullard said:
APOLO1 said:
at what price..? I know the largest P collator's in Asia....when I mention the 6RS they laugh..
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they just sold one at 100 they were late 50's 18 months back.
911dullard said:
APOLO1 said:
like all RS models, they have risen on the coat tails of the 2.7s ect, there is no increase in price the due to the intrinsic appreciation of the car....
That's opinion nothing more. The fact remains the car has risen in valueOne collector's opinion in Asia hardly makes a market. Rarity is all. Fewer than 700 6Rs's built, probably less now survive than 997RS 4.0ltr cars. They are not as good as the 997RS but then they are 7years less developed. Drive a 1973, 2.7RS against probably any modern (post 1990's) 911, indeed any contemporary hot hatch, they are slow, do not handle as well, it is not relevant to the market. We can all just speculate and time will tell of course.
APOLO1 said:
but nothing like the one before it or after.....because its a dog....
Ok in your opinion it maybe but in others opinions it may not be . Others may dislike the 4ltr for whatever reason that's their prerogative http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Alpinestars said:
This may well be wrong, but from a quick Google search, there were c1600 2.7s made, 1000 993 RS', 1300 964 RS' and ONLY 700 996 RS'.
There appear to be around c1900 7.1s, and c1600 7.2s. So the 7.2 is almost as rare as the 2.7, but the 2.7 is nowhere near as rare as a 6RS, yet is hugely more expensive. I'm not sure rarity on its own is the factor which decides the relative price between the Porks. It seems to have more to do with "coming of age".
If it's all down to rarity, the 6RS is going to be a gilt edged investment.
Google is not correct,more like 2500 964,the 2.7 is not rare either really.If the 4 price stays up at its crazy level it will drag the 3.8 up with it,why its at this value at the moment is baffling me some what,idid not think it was worth the list price extra over a 3.8,at the time.There appear to be around c1900 7.1s, and c1600 7.2s. So the 7.2 is almost as rare as the 2.7, but the 2.7 is nowhere near as rare as a 6RS, yet is hugely more expensive. I'm not sure rarity on its own is the factor which decides the relative price between the Porks. It seems to have more to do with "coming of age".
If it's all down to rarity, the 6RS is going to be a gilt edged investment.
APOLO1 said:
The 2.7s had enjoyed much more of a race history....and you had the side shows, ie the RSRs ect...2.8s and 3.0s
If the 6RS was going to do anything price wise, it would have done so before now, I have sold 4, 4.0s, 3 to collectors', whilst the 993RS is gaining traction, there is no interest from a colleting point in the 6RS.......none at all....
Oh apolo you come out with some nonsense,the 2.7 enjoyed very little race history,it was born to homologate the 2.8 rsr,which is certainly no side show car.I suppose you consider these dogs also.If the 6RS was going to do anything price wise, it would have done so before now, I have sold 4, 4.0s, 3 to collectors', whilst the 993RS is gaining traction, there is no interest from a colleting point in the 6RS.......none at all....
Edited by APOLO1 on Wednesday 4th June 13:31
MSR12c said:
One collector's opinion in Asia hardly makes a market. Rarity is all. Fewer than 700 6Rs's built, probably less now survive than 997RS 4.0ltr cars. They are not as good as the 997RS but then they are 7years less developed. Drive a 1973, 2.7RS against probably any modern (post 1990's) 911, indeed any contemporary hot hatch, they are slow, do not handle as well, it is not relevant to the market. We can all just speculate and time will tell of course.
With all due respect your thoughts on the 2.7 is not correct,they are not slow and handle better than most.It will be nice to see the 996 perform well at some point in value,they certainly go well enough and rare enough to be wanted at some point.
APOLO1 said:
but nothing like the one before it or after.....because its a dog....
You called the 4.0 RS a dog as well and 4.0 values have went up by rather a lot...? The 6RS will go up and by rather a lot in time IMO with the production numbers and the way the car drives. In some respects it could probably be considered the last of the RS cars rather than the 4.0.
APOLO1 said:
911dullard said:
APOLO1 said:
at what price..? I know the largest P collator's in Asia....when I mention the 6RS they laugh..
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they just sold one at 100 they were late 50's 18 months back.
Yellow491 said:
With all due respect your thoughts on the 2.7 is not correct,they are not slow and handle better than most.
It will be nice to see the 996 perform well at some point in value,they certainly go well enough and rare enough to be wanted at some point.
By current standards it is a relatively slow car (0-60 about 6.3 secs). It does not handle as safely or progressively as a current GTI. In 1973 it was a revelation but technology has moved on. Bring out a £100+k sports car today with the same acceleration and handling traits and it would be labelled a dud. I was not comparing like with like, merely trying to suggest that by current standards the performance is no great shakes. The earlier posts were comparing aged with modern, hence the relevance.It will be nice to see the 996 perform well at some point in value,they certainly go well enough and rare enough to be wanted at some point.
Yellow491 said:
Alpinestars said:
This may well be wrong, but from a quick Google search, there were c1600 2.7s made, 1000 993 RS', 1300 964 RS' and ONLY 700 996 RS'.
There appear to be around c1900 7.1s, and c1600 7.2s. So the 7.2 is almost as rare as the 2.7, but the 2.7 is nowhere near as rare as a 6RS, yet is hugely more expensive. I'm not sure rarity on its own is the factor which decides the relative price between the Porks. It seems to have more to do with "coming of age".
If it's all down to rarity, the 6RS is going to be a gilt edged investment.
Google is not correct,more like 2500 964,the 2.7 is not rare either really.If the 4 price stays up at its crazy level it will drag the 3.8 up with it,why its at this value at the moment is baffling me some what,idid not think it was worth the list price extra over a 3.8,at the time.There appear to be around c1900 7.1s, and c1600 7.2s. So the 7.2 is almost as rare as the 2.7, but the 2.7 is nowhere near as rare as a 6RS, yet is hugely more expensive. I'm not sure rarity on its own is the factor which decides the relative price between the Porks. It seems to have more to do with "coming of age".
If it's all down to rarity, the 6RS is going to be a gilt edged investment.
Yellow491 said:
MSR12c said:
One collector's opinion in Asia hardly makes a market. Rarity is all. Fewer than 700 6Rs's built, probably less now survive than 997RS 4.0ltr cars. They are not as good as the 997RS but then they are 7years less developed. Drive a 1973, 2.7RS against probably any modern (post 1990's) 911, indeed any contemporary hot hatch, they are slow, do not handle as well, it is not relevant to the market. We can all just speculate and time will tell of course.
With all due respect your thoughts on the 2.7 is not correct,they are not slow and handle better than most.Gassing Station | Porsche General | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff