Little known Porsche model features and facts

Little known Porsche model features and facts

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Callughan

6,312 posts

192 months

Saturday 28th June 2014
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marky911 said:
996TT02 said:
mollytherocker said:
The 996 and 997 4WD models only measure fuel levels from half to full. Below this is done by an estimation via mileage and driving style.
Surely this can't be right.

Otherwise the gauge would only work on the way down.

If you were near empty and you filled up to less than half a tank, the gauge would not register as it would have no means of knowing that you had filled up, and by how much.
As above, it can't be right. I ran mine right down last weekend then only put £20 in as it's now in storage for 4-6 weeks. The gauge worked fine. Petrol light went out and I had about a quarter of a tank.


Good thread though. I like the quirks.

ETA - what am I on about. Mine isn't 4WD! I'm an idiot.
Still find it hard to believe that a fuel gauge doesn't work from the bottom of the gauge.

Edited by marky911 on Saturday 28th June 12:58
Yep on both my 996 and 997 4S if you added a low amount of petrol when the gauge was low, it would not show.

Callughan

6,312 posts

192 months

Saturday 28th June 2014
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Wozy68 said:
A porsche quirk. My 993 was one of the very first 993 registered in the UK on the 7th December 1993 and has a full detailed service history all from the supplying dealer and has been serviced there all its life so the opc know it very well.
When I bought her I noticed the service book was for a 964 so I was well confused. According to the dealer it's the correct one supplied with the car. When I queried it they just said that back in the early nineties and porsche was in bad shape they were amazed at what service book came with the cars.

Adrian Crawford once showed me a 3.2 Carrera cab that had it's chassis number factory crossed out and a new one stamped underneath. Obviously someone somewhere had cocked up smile
Very not German;)

mollytherocker

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14,366 posts

209 months

Saturday 28th June 2014
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Tripe Bypass said:
The original plan was also to watercool the 993.

The 928 was meant to be released in 1972 or '73.

The steering rack of a 996 Carrera Cup is identical to one of a regular 996 with the exception of a couple of travel restrictors (big plastic washers).
A watercooled 993? How would they have done that? Just the heads like the GT1 engine?

HoHoHo

14,987 posts

250 months

Saturday 28th June 2014
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I haven't got a picture but from memory of my Boxster S the air intakes on the left and right are slightly different shapes on the left and right.

No idea why confused

Cheburator mk2

2,993 posts

199 months

Monday 30th June 2014
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The Porsche 928 was the first road going Porsche, that was 100% clean sheet design for the company. The 993 was the first 911 to use a derivative of the Weissach rear axle.

IMI A

9,410 posts

201 months

Monday 30th June 2014
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Cheburator mk2 said:
The Porsche 928 was the first road going Porsche, that was 100% clean sheet design for the company. The 993 was the first 911 to use a derivative of the Weissach rear axle.
Also the 928's design around its rear quarter window was the inspiration behind the Ford Sierra's rear quarter window!

graemel

7,032 posts

217 months

Monday 30th June 2014
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A good mate has a late model 3.0 litre SC cab that the family has owned owned from new. But the engine is actually 3.2.
Not all 2.7RS's ran mag cases some where ali. Visa a vie not all 74 Carreras ran ali cases.

WindyMiller67

438 posts

140 months

Monday 30th June 2014
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996TT02 said:
mollytherocker said:
The 996 and 997 4WD models only measure fuel levels from half to full. Below this is done by an estimation via mileage and driving style.
Surely this can't be right.

Otherwise the gauge would only work on the way down.

If you were near empty and you filled up to less than half a tank, the gauge would not register as it would have no means of knowing that you had filled up, and by how much.
I laughed out loud when I read 996TT02's response because this is exactly what does happen! As others have said, the sender is in the common part of the tank and not in the left and right saddle sections which, together, hold the final third.

Anyway, my own quirk - Mine is in for some warranty work today (997.2 T4S) and I reported that the one-touch window close on the passenger side, doesn't work until the window is virtually halfway up. They phoned me today to say this is normal! Why? If the window is fully down, I want to put the lifter switch into the second position and have the window close! It's almost as mad as the saddle fuel tank feature.

av185

18,514 posts

127 months

Monday 30th June 2014
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mollytherocker said:
sidicks said:
996TT02 said:
Surely this can't be right.

Otherwise the gauge would only work on the way down.

If you were near empty and you filled up to less than half a tank, the gauge would not register as it would have no means of knowing that you had filled up, and by how much.
That happened to me.
It is a pretty poor design. But Porsche believed that this was a good solution! Things like this become character over time though!
I would also agree with this....4 years back just before selling my 997.1 C4S Cab tip I put about £20 of premium Esso in for the purchasers....the tank was nearly empty and the £20 didn t even register and the low fuel warning light was still on!.....I felt so 'defrauded' that I went to the cashier and complained their pumps were misreading. Unfortunately it didnt get me anywhere!

I agree.....very annoying and frustrating at the time, but thinking back through rose tinted specs.....another Porsche idiosyncrasy....hehe

mollytherocker

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14,366 posts

209 months

Monday 30th June 2014
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What about the classic rumour that pulling the handbrake onto its first click in a 997 turbo makes it 2 wheel drive?

Can anybody confirm this finally?

OlberJ

14,101 posts

233 months

Tuesday 1st July 2014
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Seem to remember similar fuel tank/guage quirkiness when filling up less than a quarter of a tank on my 928 S4.


HoHoHo

14,987 posts

250 months

Tuesday 1st July 2014
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anonymous said:
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Mine was an '02 3.2S which would fit exactly with your suggestion clap

tb1880

93 posts

238 months

Tuesday 1st July 2014
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I have noticed that I can drive my 996 over about 65 mph in the rain without having to use the windscreen wipers.

The screen stays almost perfectly clear, well the rain just runs off a bit like it does on a motorcycle helmet visor.

Never noticed this on any other car, must be decent aerodynamics.

ORD

18,120 posts

127 months

Tuesday 1st July 2014
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My car produces smoke from the exhausts at start up ONLY when people I might like to impress are standing nearby.

It's a clever design feature to remind you that you are not Billy Big Spuds.

uktrailmonster

4,827 posts

200 months

Tuesday 1st July 2014
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WindyMiller67 said:
Anyway, my own quirk - Mine is in for some warranty work today (997.2 T4S) and I reported that the one-touch window close on the passenger side, doesn't work until the window is virtually halfway up. They phoned me today to say this is normal! Why? If the window is fully down, I want to put the lifter switch into the second position and have the window close! It's almost as mad as the saddle fuel tank feature.
My 997.2 C4S is exactly the same. No idea why and slightly irritating. Probably something to do with some silly Euro safety legislation no doubt. At least I can now confirm it is normal!

crystalmethod

1,158 posts

179 months

Tuesday 1st July 2014
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ORD said:
My car produces smoke from the exhausts at start up ONLY when people I might like to impress are standing nearby.

It's a clever design feature to remind you that you are not Billy Big Spuds.
Exactly my experience as well.

RDMcG

19,153 posts

207 months

Tuesday 1st July 2014
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Apologies for my awful pic but the dark blue Targa in this pic in the centre is the only factory Targa RS ever built. It was made for the wife of Roger Penske.

stratfordshark

111 posts

183 months

Tuesday 1st July 2014
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OlberJ said:
Seem to remember similar fuel tank/guage quirkiness when filling up less than a quarter of a tank on my 928 S4.
That was most likely a problem with the sender - in the 928 the sender goes from around 75 ohm resistance when full to a few ohms empty. It can give odd readings because of dirt in connector, or the wires on which float moves being corroded so float gets stuck near bottom. If the sender is working normally than the fuel gauge derives its reading same way throughout range. In the wonderful world of 928 electrical gremlins there can also be problems with connections to the instrument pod and the gauge connections to the pcb inside the pod!

I had to replace the sender in my first 928 to fix dodgy gauge readings, but some have had success just cleaning the float wires.

Edited by stratfordshark on Tuesday 1st July 18:57

mollytherocker

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14,366 posts

209 months

Tuesday 1st July 2014
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RDMcG said:


Apologies for my awful pic but the dark blue Targa in this pic in the centre is the only factory Targa RS ever built. It was made for the wife of Roger Penske.
Mmmm, very poor. You need to get your ducks in a row! biggrin

mollytherocker

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14,366 posts

209 months

Tuesday 1st July 2014
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The 991 is technically mid engined.