Little known Porsche model features and facts

[RDMcG]

mollytherocker said:

The 991 is technically mid engined.

Aahh first air-cooled went...a backward step
second it was a the stability control..a backward step
third it was the electric steering..a backward step...
fourth it was the PDK transmission..a backward step...

At least this change is a forward step

[Zyp]

A 2011MY bone china Porsche mug doesn't stand up to the rigours of being dropped onto a ceramic tiled floor.

[mollytherocker]

Zyp said:

A 2011MY bone china Porsche mug doesn't stand up to the rigours of being dropped onto a ceramic tiled floor.

Did it D chunk?

[HoHoHo]

mollytherocker said:

Zyp said:

A 2011MY bone china Porsche mug doesn't stand up to the rigours of being dropped onto a ceramic tiled floor.

Did it D chunk?

I suspect in went in D bin

[Ian_UK1]

As those with PDK cars will know, when in Sport Plus and kickdown, the gearchanges give you a real kick in the back and can even sometimes elicit a small squeak from the rear tyres going from 1st to 2nd - it's all quite violent: in a good way!

What I found yesterday is that this is only the case if you're accelerating in a straight line. If you're accelerating out of a bend and still have some steering angle on, the gearchanges - even in Sport Plus and kickdown - are completely smooth. A very clever (and AFAIK, undocumented) feature, as the sort of violent change you get in a straight line would completely upset the rear of the car.

Ian

Edited by Ian_UK1 on Tuesday 1st July 22:32

[sleep envy]

mollytherocker said:

RDMcG said:

Apologies for my awful pic but the dark blue Targa in this pic in the centre is the only factory Targa RS ever built. It was made for the wife of Roger Penske.

Mmmm, very poor. You need to get your ducks in a row!

Better?

[stevod]

When Porsche recalled the centre-locks with the 500Nm rating, they didn't recall the wine bottle stoppers with the same torque rating marked on them.

I guess they found that 600Nm is too much for wine bottles.

S

[thegreenhell]

mollytherocker said:

The 991 is technically mid engined.

[mollytherocker]

thegreenhell said:

mollytherocker said:

The 991 is technically mid engined.

I believe that over 50% of the weight of the engine sits in front of the rear wheels. I cant remember the figure, but its something like 52%.

Therefore it is mid engined.

[RDMcG]

stevod said:

When Porsche recalled the centre-locks with the 500Nm rating, they didn't recall the wine bottle stoppers with the same torque rating marked on them.

I guess they found that 600Nm is too much for wine bottles.

S

You have to replace them after twelve bottles, though.

[mollytherocker]

The 996 Carrera models have 2 high level brake lights. The second is underneath the spoiler as when it raises it hides the exterior one!

[uktrailmonster]

mollytherocker said:

I believe that over 50% of the weight of the engine sits in front of the rear wheels. I cant remember the figure, but its something like 52%.

Therefore it is mid engined.

I would define mid-engined as gearbox behind the engine. Gearbox in front of the engine is rear engined in my book.

[uktrailmonster]

Ian_UK1 said:

As those with PDK cars will know, when in Sport Plus and kickdown, the gearchanges give you a real kick in the back and can even sometimes elicit a small squeak from the rear tyres going from 1st to 2nd - it's all quite violent: in a good way!

What I found yesterday is that this is only the case if you're accelerating in a straight line. If you're accelerating out of a bend and still have some steering angle on, the gearchanges - even in Sport Plus and kickdown - are completely smooth. A very clever (and AFAIK, undocumented) feature, as the sort of violent change you get in a straight line would completely upset the rear of the car.

Ian

Edited by Ian_UK1 on Tuesday 1st July 22:32

That's very interesting. I find the kick on full bore gear changes in both Sport and Sport+ mode a bit irritating for road use. Pointlessly harsh I would say. For that reason I usually keep it in standard mode, but change gear manually. I wish you could have the option of Sport throttle and gear mapping, but with the smooth shifting throughout.

[poprock]

Most people already know this one, but the 968 was originally designated internally by Porsche as the 944 S3. It was a purely marketing decision to give it a whole new name and identity on launch.

[ORD]

uktrailmonster said:

Ian_UK1 said:

As those with PDK cars will know, when in Sport Plus and kickdown, the gearchanges give you a real kick in the back and can even sometimes elicit a small squeak from the rear tyres going from 1st to 2nd - it's all quite violent: in a good way!

What I found yesterday is that this is only the case if you're accelerating in a straight line. If you're accelerating out of a bend and still have some steering angle on, the gearchanges - even in Sport Plus and kickdown - are completely smooth. A very clever (and AFAIK, undocumented) feature, as the sort of violent change you get in a straight line would completely upset the rear of the car.

Ian

Edited by Ian_UK1 on Tuesday 1st July 22:32

That's very interesting. I find the kick on full bore gear changes in both Sport and Sport+ mode a bit irritating for road use. Pointlessly harsh I would say. For that reason I usually keep it in standard mode, but change gear manually. I wish you could have the option of Sport throttle and gear mapping, but with the smooth shifting throughout.

Really? I cant say I have even noticed much of a kick. Perhaps I am just hardcore.

I cant stand the lazy throttle mapping in standard mode so always use sport mode when changing with the paddles.

As I have said before, something halfway between standard and sport would make sense for most driving (in auto mode).

[thegreenhell]

mollytherocker said:

thegreenhell said:

mollytherocker said:

The 991 is technically mid engined.

I believe that over 50% of the weight of the engine sits in front of the rear wheels. I cant remember the figure, but its something like 52%.

Therefore it is mid engined.

I'd be interested to see your source for that, but forgive me if I remain sceptical

[uktrailmonster]

ORD said:

Really? I cant say I have even noticed much of a kick. Perhaps I am just hardcore.

I cant stand the lazy throttle mapping in standard mode so always use sport mode when changing with the paddles.

As I have said before, something halfway between standard and sport would make sense for most driving (in auto mode).

The kick is only there on foot to the floor accel in Sport or Sport+ mode and you would definitely notice it in my car (997.2 C4S). Maybe your car is mapped differently?

[ORD]

uktrailmonster said:

ORD said:

Really? I cant say I have even noticed much of a kick. Perhaps I am just hardcore.

I cant stand the lazy throttle mapping in standard mode so always use sport mode when changing with the paddles.

As I have said before, something halfway between standard and sport would make sense for most driving (in auto mode).

The kick is only there on foot to the floor accel in Sport or Sport+ mode and you would definitely notice it in my car (997.2 C4S). Maybe your car is mapped differently?

Nah, it just has fewer horses and fewer driven wheels!

[OlberJ]

anonymous said:

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That would have to be one heavy gearbox!

[mollytherocker]

anonymous said:

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I cant remember where I read it but I am pretty sure it was actually from Porsche themselves and there was a discussion at the time on here about the definition of mid engined and it was confirmed that it was.

It was also confirmed that many front engined Ferraris like the 612 are now technically mid engjned as are many BMWs!