the new GT4 and spec's, what do YOU want ?

[franki68]

3k deposit is what I paid

[spyderman8]

hondansx said:

Anyway, in that case i am much more interested of the actual race car for this. I'm going to struggle to get the mega budget for GT3, but could see myself in the GT4 car!

You could also argue an ex-GT4 911 would be an accessible way of owning a GT3...
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C492055

Woah! Good find! Never seen one come up before. Stick shift - how quaint! But running costs would still be as much as a 997 GT3 Cup - which is pretty scary. I'd need a decent chunk of sponsorship to be able to run that next season!

A GT4 Cayman (as recently sold through RPM) is a very interesting concept - I'm just not convinced that it would be competitive against an Aston or Ginetta though.

Chris.

[spyderman8]

spyderman8 said:

... running costs would still be as much as a 997 GT3 Cup - which is pretty scary.

Actually maybe that's not quite true because it sounds like this car is far closer to a road GT3 than a Cup (although "standard tank" can't be right). Mmm intriguing...

Chris.

[Gibbo205]

Hi there

For me short and simple:-

1250-1300kg weight
3.8l engine with power pack (430BHP)
PDK Sports Plus (Manual option too)
PDK Sports Plus steering wheel
BMW do it so why not Porshe, carbon roof
Aero kit
6 pot front, 4 pot rears, 380mm disc.
Carbon buckets
Rear Cage+harness option
AC / Stero option no cost option.
Passive dampers as on GTS but further tuned and maybe further 5-10mm lower. Or maybe even Ohlins setup!
Sports exhaust
Even wider front/rear tracks
Wider wheels with 235mm front tyres and 275mm rears in 18" and 19" size
Hydraulic steering
Alcantera interior trim
Mechanical LSD / Torque vectoring diff options


Something like the above should easily match and beat the 991 C2S times, whilst offering a more thrilling driving experience.

Base price: 70k with a lot of the above, fancy options like better stereo, ceramics, interior packages, cage install etc take it to around 90k.

[Gibbo205]

Hi there

For me short and simple:-

1250-1300kg weight
3.8l engine with power pack (430BHP)
PDK Sports Plus (Manual option too)
PDK Sports Plus steering wheel
BMW do it so why not Porshe, carbon roof
Aero kit
6 pot front, 4 pot rears, 380mm disc.
Carbon buckets
Rear Cage+harness option
AC / Stero option no cost option.
Passive dampers as on GTS but further tuned and maybe further 5-10mm lower. Or maybe even Ohlins setup!
Sports exhaust
Even wider front/rear tracks
Wider wheels with 235mm front tyres and 275mm rears in 18" and 19" size
Hydraulic steering
Alcantera interior trim
Mechanical LSD / Torque vectoring diff options
Shorter gear ratios!!!


Something like the above should easily match and beat the 991 C2S times, whilst offering a more thrilling driving experience.

Base price: 70k with a lot of the above, fancy options like better stereo, ceramics, interior packages, cage install etc take it to around 90k.

[n17ves]

I've also registered my interest along with a letter of Intent with my local OPC...

For me it just needs to be at least 380bhp (6 cylinder) with a manual gearbox / LSD and the option of a clubsport package with carbon buckets.....oh, and lots of alcantara

[ORD]

isaldiri said:

Looking at the spec listed above by a lot of people, somewhat feel compelled to ask, badge apart what does the GT4 have to offer over Exige V6 Cup to be the car of choice?

I sort of agree. I don't see the point in a Cayman that is, for realistic purposes, just a road-legal track car. It is far too heavy, even stripped down, and far too big to be as much fun as a smaller, lighter and much cheaper track car.

[Mario149]

I've not been keeping up (hadn't heard of the GT4 until this thread) but I am a bit sad to see it will be a turbo (or am I mistaken?)

[Carl_Docklands]

I think the turbo will launch with the Gt4 as a seperate model.

This will finally bring the model lineup into parity with all the models in the Porsche line-up.

[Dr S]

Dr S said:

400 hb dry sumped engine with dirty Akrapovic titanium exhaust
passive adjustable dampers
mechanical diff
big brakes
upgraded aero with splitter, dive planes and proper wing
lightweight body panels
lightweight buckets with optional roll cage and six point harnesses

if it must have PDK then at least the GT3 one

optional: wider track, riviera blue paint job

[DiscoColin]

'tis a silly thread, but anyway...

For this as yet mythical beast to be in any way interesting to me it would need:
Over 400hp from a normally aspirated dry sump engine connected to a 'box with 6 gears.
Bucket seats, cage and harnesses.
A chassis that drives as well or better than anything out there.
6 pot brakes with steel disks.
No 'Comfort' option.
No centre lock wheels.
No electronic rear steer.
No flappy paddle gearbox.
No electronic diff (LSD should be in there, but mechanical).
No electric power steering.
Materially lower on-track running costs than a 911 GT3.

The above is not - however - what I am expecting (a GTS with standard buckets (option to delete), centre locks, rear wing, PDK, lots of electronic bits, possibly bigger brakes, optional clubsport pack and an extra 20hp).

Shall we all shut up now until it is actually launched though?

[Trev450]

DiscoColin said:

'tis a silly thread, but anyway...

For this as yet mythical beast to be in any way interesting to me it would need:
Over 400hp from a normally aspirated dry sump engine connected to a 'box with 6 gears.
Bucket seats, cage and harnesses.
A chassis that drives as well or better than anything out there.
6 pot brakes with steel disks.
No 'Comfort' option.
No centre lock wheels.
No electronic rear steer.
No flappy paddle gearbox.
No electronic diff (LSD should be in there, but mechanical).
No electric power steering.
Materially lower on-track running costs than a 911 GT3.

The above is not - however - what I am expecting (a GTS with standard buckets (option to delete), centre locks, rear wing, PDK, lots of electronic bits, possibly bigger brakes, optional clubsport pack and an extra 20hp).

Shall we all shut up now until it is actually launched though?

That spec sounds about right to me. I somehow doubt it will be anywhere near that though as you say.

[spyderman8]

ORD said:

I don't see the point in a Cayman that is, for realistic purposes, just a road-legal track car. It is far too heavy, even stripped down, and far too big to be as much fun as a smaller, lighter and much cheaper track car.

Strange statement. You might as well say "there's no point in making a race car out of a 997 - or 991 - it's far too heavy."

Chris.

[OlberJ]

Here's what this GT4 should be :

[mrdemon]

You might think the thread is daft but the main cayman forum plannet 9 owner has copied it :-)

And Porsche do read these :-)

Funny how most want some sort of race car which is not usable on the road though.
I really do just want a sporty road car with adjustment and the 3.8 lump ,

Be nice not to have electric steering but we are doomed on that point me thinks.

I do love this new R8 LMX thing I must say.
And the new TT cabin is a show stopper and he best out there.
Along withe new A3 etron. Audi have some new great cars coming.

[ORD]

No, they don't, MrD. They have some generic go-faster crap with soft plastics in the cabin, as ever.

Audi has enormous disdain for people like us and builds fast cars for low-rent footballers and middle management (along with middle aged people who want a dull saloon or estate with power that they can never ever use). Car enthusiasts do not feature remotely in its thinking (otherwise the dead steering would have been resolved years ago).

I can't understand anyone who expresses an interest in an electric sports car for road driving. The last thing cars need is to be quicker but less engaging - instant maximum torque along with a drone to replace a flat six howl or a V8 bellow...the end of driving for pleasure. Awesome for track thrills, I would have thought, though.

The GT4 is going to tell us a lot about the Porsche direction of travel. I hope that it differentiates itself by producing a driver's car rather than a go-faster version with less character and feel.

I trust Porsche enough to think its 50/50 which way it will go on the big questions:

4 cyl turbo (the end of days) vs 3.8 (or uprated 3.4)
Zero weight reduction vs at least token efforts
Electronic driver aid overload vs same as 981 S (as standard)
PASM v Cayman R suspension (improved)

[lemmingjames]

So a 996 gt3 with newer modern trick suspension?

[Carl_Docklands]

lemmingjames said:

So a 996 gt3 with newer modern trick suspension?

I doubt the cars will he comparible on any level apart from track performance. It will make a '96 feel like a ford cortina.

[ORD]

I'd buy the cmoose GT4 (in black so my wife might not notice I've changed my car).

[mrdemon]

ORD said:

No, they don't, MrD. They have some generic go-faster crap with soft plastics in the cabin, as ever.

Ok lets look what I said 1 by one :-)

the LMX A 565 BHP NA V10 not sure that's generic go-faster crap not many NA v10 cars about these days, and bloody laser lights :-)

2: the TT cabin, not the drive I said the cabin, it looks great imo inc the steering wheel market leading makes the new Porsche range look old again.
also lets not forget its new weight 1230Kg !!!! lighter than any Porsche for years even the Spyder !!!!

3: the Audi Etron A3, the 1st real high mpg company usable car imo with normal power and range.

none of those are generic go-faster crap imo they are all market leading.

AS for the driver well Porsche failed on that account when they went electric steering (and no manual GT3)as it does feel night and day bad over my R and more Audi (even worse in some cases) if any thing Porsche are building the generic go-faster crap , electric steering , 4 pot turbo's, e diffs, electric hand brakes, etc etc

open your eyes ;-)

and as some one else said Plastic fantastic even the 991 GT3 has plastic dash and many did not spec leather, it looks well cheap.
I have driven the full range of new Porsche cars , none are that exciting any more.

As for a hard core Cayman GT3 style, i'll say it again no thanks, it needs to work on B roads full stop very well.
But I would like normal steering with feel 6pots and that 3.8 NA lump with the 918 steering wheel and buckets.

Edited by mrdemon on Thursday 24th July 08:20