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If I am right here (pls correct me if I am wrong!!) there were 113 UK 996 RS - so again a very limited number. If we believe Mr A that figure of 132 991 GT3's is right ( he actually said 250 originally then 132 and now no 2nd run etc) then something is just not right here..
Firstly I dont think the 996 RS had the same press as the 991 GT3 has got ..not that press should always be taken as gospel but 132 'halo' cars with as he says NO gen2 over what he also says will be a 14yr platform for the 991 car then I would expect there to be pretty much NO 991 Gt3's available yet there are 7 all pretty decent spec and with engine replacements currently available through Pistonheads alone.
As V12 pointed out all those 997's he mentioned were effectively given by Porsche as being a limited production number and no such number has ever been applied to the 991 GT3.
I also believe if you can afford 110/115k for a car you can no longer apparently buy through your Porsche Centre, then paying £130 for it would not be much of an issue to a perspective buyer.
Firstly I dont think the 996 RS had the same press as the 991 GT3 has got ..not that press should always be taken as gospel but 132 'halo' cars with as he says NO gen2 over what he also says will be a 14yr platform for the 991 car then I would expect there to be pretty much NO 991 Gt3's available yet there are 7 all pretty decent spec and with engine replacements currently available through Pistonheads alone.
As V12 pointed out all those 997's he mentioned were effectively given by Porsche as being a limited production number and no such number has ever been applied to the 991 GT3.
I also believe if you can afford 110/115k for a car you can no longer apparently buy through your Porsche Centre, then paying £130 for it would not be much of an issue to a perspective buyer.
berty37 said:
If I am right here (pls correct me if I am wrong!!) there were 113 UK 996 RS - so again a very limited number. If we believe Mr A that figure of 132 991 GT3's is right ( he actually said 250 originally then 132 and now no 2nd run etc) then something is just not right here..
Firstly I dont think the 996 RS had the same press as the 991 GT3 has got ..not that press should always be taken as gospel but 132 'halo' cars with as he says NO gen2 over what he also says will be a 14yr platform for the 991 car then I would expect there to be pretty much NO 991 Gt3's available yet there are 7 all pretty decent spec and with engine replacements currently available through Pistonheads alone.
As V12 pointed out all those 997's he mentioned were effectively given by Porsche as being a limited production number and no such number has ever been applied to the 991 GT3.
I also believe if you can afford 110/115k for a car you can no longer apparently buy through your Porsche Centre, then paying £130 for it would not be much of an issue to a perspective buyer.
you should not equate the 6RS in any way to the 991GT3.....The 2nd run went to other markets...some areas of the USA had extra cars....not many though..Firstly I dont think the 996 RS had the same press as the 991 GT3 has got ..not that press should always be taken as gospel but 132 'halo' cars with as he says NO gen2 over what he also says will be a 14yr platform for the 991 car then I would expect there to be pretty much NO 991 Gt3's available yet there are 7 all pretty decent spec and with engine replacements currently available through Pistonheads alone.
As V12 pointed out all those 997's he mentioned were effectively given by Porsche as being a limited production number and no such number has ever been applied to the 991 GT3.
I also believe if you can afford 110/115k for a car you can no longer apparently buy through your Porsche Centre, then paying £130 for it would not be much of an issue to a perspective buyer.
its 4000 or as macca points out may be less now..
Makes no diff to me, very happy with both my cars.....
APOLO1 said:
you should not equate the 6RS in any way to the 991GT3.....The 2nd run went to other markets...some areas of the USA had extra cars....not many though..
its 4000 or as macca points out may be less now..
Makes no diff to me, very happy with both my cars.....
so APOLO given what we know about future production of Porsches what make you think the regular 991 GT3 will be in limited numbers? Im not understanding. My previous post mentions it not being a limited number car unlike the ones we know aboutits 4000 or as macca points out may be less now..
Makes no diff to me, very happy with both my cars.....
V12DRC said:
so APOLO given what we know about future production of Porsches what make you think the regular 991 GT3 will be in limited numbers? Im not understanding. My previous post mentions it not being a limited number car unlike the ones we know about
In fairness to apolo1, I don't think he is saying that the 991 gt3 is a limited edition run. More that Porsche have allocated a certain amount of production time to the gt3 and some of that production time has been taken up by the engine issue so within such allocated time, the number produced is what it is. Have to admit, did expect a bigger run of cars given everything was setup for the gt3 to be produced in higher numbers than previous as far as the factory production line was concerned and it would have made sense for the factory to produce as many as they could sell.
isaldiri said:
V12DRC said:
so APOLO given what we know about future production of Porsches what make you think the regular 991 GT3 will be in limited numbers? Im not understanding. My previous post mentions it not being a limited number car unlike the ones we know about
In fairness to apolo1, I don't think he is saying that the 991 gt3 is a limited edition run. More that Porsche have allocated a certain amount of production time to the gt3 and some of that production time has been taken up by the engine issue so within such allocated time, the number produced is what it is. Have to admit, did expect a bigger run of cars given everything was setup for the gt3 to be produced in higher numbers than previous as far as the factory production line was concerned and it would have made sense for the factory to produce as many as they could sell.
berty37 said:
isaldiri said:
V12DRC said:
so APOLO given what we know about future production of Porsches what make you think the regular 991 GT3 will be in limited numbers? Im not understanding. My previous post mentions it not being a limited number car unlike the ones we know about
In fairness to apolo1, I don't think he is saying that the 991 gt3 is a limited edition run. More that Porsche have allocated a certain amount of production time to the gt3 and some of that production time has been taken up by the engine issue so within such allocated time, the number produced is what it is. Have to admit, did expect a bigger run of cars given everything was setup for the gt3 to be produced in higher numbers than previous as far as the factory production line was concerned and it would have made sense for the factory to produce as many as they could sell.
3 years out no more GT3s..imv
APOLO1 said:
whilst the GT3 has never been a Ltd production, it has always been ltd allocation. This time throw in the engine issuie, the CAP 6 time line, the need to get the RS out.. along with the demand for the GT3 in up coming markets..I am sure you get the picture....
3 years out no more GT3s..imv
Fair play Apolo happy to take you on your word.3 years out no more GT3s..imv
APOLO1 said:
whilst the GT3 has never been a Ltd production, it has always been ltd allocation. This time throw in the engine issuie, the CAP 6 time line, the need to get the RS out.. along with the demand for the GT3 in up coming markets..I am sure you get the picture....
3 years out no more GT3s..imv
But most new models are limited allocation to dealers when they are first released that's nothing new. All that's happened here is the engine issue has halted production which has limited supply short term. Now production has started again things will return to normal...very obvious.3 years out no more GT3s..imv
Also i don't see Porsche not making GT3's in the future which like all the series of RS models have been hugely successful for them. Lets be honest very few at Porsche would make that call let alone us Jubs on forums
Edited by V12DRC on Friday 18th July 14:46
berty37 said:
Fair play Apolo happy to take you on your word.
Sorry, I seem a bit dark on this....I think you are around London. I will be in our London office at the end of the month lets have a beer....In my view they way underestimated the demand for these cars, as well as got the price right out" sync" in respect of what the car will do...
not saying there will never ever be another GT3, even in 991 platform, but I am saying imv, that there will be no more than the 132 cars in its current NA configuration over the next 3 years...
V12DRC said:
But most new models are limited allocation to dealers when they are first released that's nothing new. All that's happened here is the engine issue has halted production which has limited supply short term. Now production has started again things will return to normal...very obvious.
Also i don't see Porsche not making GT3's in the future which like all the series of RS models have been hugely successful for them. Lets be honest very few at Porsche would make that call let alone us Jubs on forums
fully agree back to the allocated run within what is left of the time line...I take it you are aware how the Cap 6 works for the N/A cars in relation in respect to tax benefits, for e-cars, time lines etc.....Also i don't see Porsche not making GT3's in the future which like all the series of RS models have been hugely successful for them. Lets be honest very few at Porsche would make that call let alone us Jubs on forums
Edited by V12DRC on Friday 18th July 14:46
APOLO1 said:
Sorry, I seem a bit dark on this....I think you are around London. I will be in our London office at the end of the month lets have a beer....
In my view they way underestimated the demand for these cars, as well as got the price right out" sync" in respect of what the car will do...
not saying there will never ever be another GT3, even in 991 platform, but I am saying imv, that there will be no more than the 132 cars in its current NA configuration over the next 3 years...
I agree there they have underestimated it..the fact a car at this price is more than holding its own vs cars that are double the price tells you something...In my view they way underestimated the demand for these cars, as well as got the price right out" sync" in respect of what the car will do...
not saying there will never ever be another GT3, even in 991 platform, but I am saying imv, that there will be no more than the 132 cars in its current NA configuration over the next 3 years...
Would love to have a beer anytime...
berty37 said:
I agree there they have underestimated it..the fact a car at this price is more than holding its own vs cars that are double the price tells you something...
Would love to have a beer anytime...
or choc cake at the Grov..will PM you when I know my dates.Would love to have a beer anytime...
It is within my direct knowledge, that this 991GT3 has caused big problem's for other makers...in the sector....I hear that one has had to go back to the drawing board from a performance point.
Edited by APOLO1 on Friday 18th July 15:20
pocty said:
Come on Lads. Can we get the thread back onto the 996 GT3 RS as this thread will be saved for prosperity. I don't want to read about Apollo bashing. Hats off to Apollo for admitting he was wrong. Now where was we?
Pocty
its all good mate Berty and Apolo are getting a room at the Grosvenor 'As one does' Pocty
Sexual Chocolate said:
Steve (or anyone), is the 993 GT2 worthy of the reputation it has?
Yes its a awesome car.As said they are not in the same league,the 993 gt2 was hand assembled in Weisach,the shell was either road version or racer /cs with the cage added and all chassis numbers/ production numbers followed each other,a true homologation special.Very special car,sadly they then watered down the gt2 description by the marketing dept at porsche with the models after it.
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